2013 Draft Thread

[lilfishi22]

A 7'1 wingspan does not make up for being 6'7 as a PF because most 6'10 PFs have a 7'1 wingspan or better.

Well, lets say people thought 3 is better than 1,
I say its not 1 but 2,
I know 3 is better 2, but there is less of a gap.

I have no idea what you just said there. But I'm probably an idiot.

[RunDogGun]

I see a sig in the making.

[Sunsfan03]

damn i thought i was making it simpler guess not.

What im saying is when you see Bennet height is 6'7 you'd think he is in a severe height disadvantage.
Thats why i said he has 7'1 reach.
I know that other PF probably have similar reach,
But my point is the height disadvantage is not as big as you would initially think it is.

Sorry for the confusion

[ATTL]

It is a disadvantage. It means he can't see over players as easily to know when defense is coming at him. It also allows opposing players to look over him easier as well when he is playing defense. There is a reason there aren't many successful power players that are short. We don't need to go down that route with a top 5 pick.

[Revived]

Wow....Porter cant shoot, really? I hate when people talk about players they have never watched. What has Barnes shown that would warrant trading a lottery pick for him? I would also take Porter over Barnes.

I hate when people try to talk smart as if they know something the other poster doesn't. I have seen Porter play plenty and whenever I watched him, he rarely ever shot a 3. It was all cuts or very close jump shots. Shooting mechanic also was a bit weird even though I didn't think it was that.

So, I researched him a little bit and found out why he doesn't take too many 3s...its cause he sucks at it.

Porter shoots just 18.5% from beyond the arc on two attempts per game. His mechanics are very deliberate and his release is inconsistent at best, ranging from a compressed shooting motion to a lack of follow through. Getting stronger may help him develop greater range on his shot, but considering how awkward his mechanics are, there's a possibility that he may have to completely overhaul his stroke at some stage to become an acceptable long-range shooter.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2RLSQYXYI
http://www.draftexpress.com

Poor jump shooter right now, shot just above 20% on 3’s as a Fr. and even though he fared better from short and mid-range with his shot he still needs to basically learn how to shoot…Rarely shoots the same shot and thus has very sporadic results with his jumper … On top of his lack of jump shooting skills, its most concerning that he isn’t a good shot creator at all

http://nbadraft.net/players/otto-porter

I'm sorry but do you consider 20% from 3 to be a player that can shoot?

As for Barnes, its comical that you think Porter is a better prospect than him. Barnes would likely go 1st overall or at worst 2nd if he was in this draft.

[Revived]

How about this scenario?

Trade our '13 lottery pick to the Utah Jazz for Burks and their two picks in the draft.

Select CJ McCollum with the Jazz pick. Select Steven Adams with the Warriors pick.

Dragic, Marshall
McCollum, Burks
Tucker, Dudley, Beas
Scola, Morris, Morris #2
Gortat, Adams, O'Neal

And then we can use Scola, Dudley, Gortat as trade chips during the summer to perhaps round up draft picks for the supposedly amazing and great 2014 NBA draft.

I think McCollum is the 2nd best SG of this draft. I really do. I think he's also one of the few players in this draft who have the potential to be a star. If it weren't for his injury and that he doesn't play for a big name school, he would be easily going top 5 maybe top 3. Adams is also a skilled big man who if developed properly could turn out pretty nice.

[EB2]

How about this scenario?

Trade our '13 lottery pick to the Utah Jazz for Burks and their two picks in the draft.

Select CJ McCollum with the Jazz pick. Select Steven Adams with the Warriors pick.

Dragic, Marshall
McCollum, Burks
Tucker, Dudley, Beas
Scola, Morris, Morris #2
Gortat, Adams, O'Neal

And then we can use Scola, Dudley, Gortat as trade chips during the summer to perhaps round up draft picks for the supposedly amazing and great 2014 NBA draft.

I think McCollum is the 2nd best SG of this draft. I really do. I think he's also one of the few players in this draft who have the potential to be a star. If it weren't for his injury and that he doesn't play for a big name school, he would be easily going top 5 maybe top 3. Adams is also a skilled big man who if developed properly could turn out pretty nice.

I don't think Adams lasts that long. He's going to rise up the boards after the combine.

[EB2]

How about this scenario?

Trade our '13 lottery pick to the Utah Jazz for Burks and their two picks in the draft.

Select CJ McCollum with the Jazz pick. Select Steven Adams with the Warriors pick.

Dragic, Marshall
McCollum, Burks
Tucker, Dudley, Beas
Scola, Morris, Morris #2
Gortat, Adams, O'Neal

And then we can use Scola, Dudley, Gortat as trade chips during the summer to perhaps round up draft picks for the supposedly amazing and great 2014 NBA draft.

I think McCollum is the 2nd best SG of this draft. I really do. I think he's also one of the few players in this draft who have the potential to be a star. If it weren't for his injury and that he doesn't play for a big name school, he would be easily going top 5 maybe top 3. Adams is also a skilled big man who if developed properly could turn out pretty nice.

I don't think Adams lasts that long. He's going to rise up the boards after the combine.

[SunZel]

Wow....Porter cant shoot, really? I hate when people talk about players they have never watched. What has Barnes shown that would warrant trading a lottery pick for him? I would also take Porter over Barnes.

I hate when people try to talk smart as if they know something the other poster doesn't. I have seen Porter play plenty and whenever I watched him, he rarely ever shot a 3. It was all cuts or very close jump shots. Shooting mechanic also was a bit weird even though I didn't think it was that.

So, I researched him a little bit and found out why he doesn't take too many 3s...its cause he sucks at it.

Porter shoots just 18.5% from beyond the arc on two attempts per game. His mechanics are very deliberate and his release is inconsistent at best, ranging from a compressed shooting motion to a lack of follow through. Getting stronger may help him develop greater range on his shot, but considering how awkward his mechanics are, there's a possibility that he may have to completely overhaul his stroke at some stage to become an acceptable long-range shooter.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2RLSQYXYI
http://www.draftexpress.com

Poor jump shooter right now, shot just above 20% on 3’s as a Fr. and even though he fared better from short and mid-range with his shot he still needs to basically learn how to shoot…Rarely shoots the same shot and thus has very sporadic results with his jumper … On top of his lack of jump shooting skills, its most concerning that he isn’t a good shot creator at all

http://nbadraft.net/players/otto-porter

I'm sorry but do you consider 20% from 3 to be a player that can shoot?

As for Barnes, its comical that you think Porter is a better prospect than him. Barnes would likely go 1st overall or at worst 2nd if he was in this draft.

Your research needs updating, that was last season. Porter is shooting 42% percent from 3 this season , which would make him a damn good shooter.

[Cutter]

Wow....Porter cant shoot, really? I hate when people talk about players they have never watched. What has Barnes shown that would warrant trading a lottery pick for him? I would also take Porter over Barnes.

I hate when people try to talk smart as if they know something the other poster doesn't. I have seen Porter play plenty and whenever I watched him, he rarely ever shot a 3. It was all cuts or very close jump shots. Shooting mechanic also was a bit weird even though I didn't think it was that.

So, I researched him a little bit and found out why he doesn't take too many 3s...its cause he sucks at it.

Porter shoots just 18.5% from beyond the arc on two attempts per game. His mechanics are very deliberate and his release is inconsistent at best, ranging from a compressed shooting motion to a lack of follow through. Getting stronger may help him develop greater range on his shot, but considering how awkward his mechanics are, there's a possibility that he may have to completely overhaul his stroke at some stage to become an acceptable long-range shooter.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2RLSQYXYI
http://www.draftexpress.com

Poor jump shooter right now, shot just above 20% on 3’s as a Fr. and even though he fared better from short and mid-range with his shot he still needs to basically learn how to shoot…Rarely shoots the same shot and thus has very sporadic results with his jumper … On top of his lack of jump shooting skills, its most concerning that he isn’t a good shot creator at all

http://nbadraft.net/players/otto-porter

I'm sorry but do you consider 20% from 3 to be a player that can shoot?

As for Barnes, its comical that you think Porter is a better prospect than him. Barnes would likely go 1st overall or at worst 2nd if he was in this draft.

Your research needs updating, that was last season. Porter is shooting 42% percent from 3 this season , which would make him a damn good shooter.

Thats 42.2% shooting on 3.3 attempts per game. That's a smidge low on # of 3 point attempts per game, but these are certainly respectable numbers. He also shot 48% from the field this year. The only complaint one might have is he shot 77% on FT's. I'd definitely look at him at #4.

[SunZel]

How many threes do small forwards usually take? Also, Harrison Barnes shot 3.6 threes per game on 36 percent shooting in college, so who is the better shooter?

[Revived]

How many threes do small forwards usually take? Also, Harrison Barnes shot 3.6 threes per game on 36 percent shooting in college, so who is the better shooter?

Do you want me to debate on why Harrison Barnes is better than Otto Porter? Did you watch game 2 between the Nuggets and Warriors tonight?

[TruthTelling]

How about this scenario?

Trade our '13 lottery pick to the Utah Jazz for Burks and their two picks in the draft.

You can't be serious, trading a top 5 pick for a #14 pick and a pick in the 20s is an hilarious thought.

[Revived]

How about this scenario?

Trade our '13 lottery pick to the Utah Jazz for Burks and their two picks in the draft.

You can't be serious, trading a top 5 pick for a #14 pick and a pick in the 20s is an hilarious thought.

Yea I thought that might be a problem...so perhaps we can send off one of our bad contracts to Utah as well.

[Ryu]

How about this scenario?

Trade our '13 lottery pick to the Utah Jazz for Burks and their two picks in the draft.

You can't be serious, trading a top 5 pick for a #14 pick and a pick in the 20s is an hilarious thought.

Yea I thought that might be a problem...so perhaps we can send off one of our bad contracts to Utah as well.

What `bad contracts` do we have? I can see only Beasley and he can be streched if needed (and it isn`t the case this summer)... Bad idea, all in all.

[Revived]

Beasley and Frye are both bad contracts.

[TruthTelling]

Not really, Frye's contract will be voided if he can't play and Beasley only really has 1 year left on it and another for just 3M$.

We are not going to trade one of the highest draft pick this team has ever had while we are in dire need of top notch young talent.

And to top it off we already have another first round pick even if it is just #30.

There is more of a chance of us trading up from say #4 to #2 to draft McLemore than us trading down to #14. That is absurd.

[jcsunsfan]

Not really, Frye's contract will be voided if he can't play and Beasley only really has 1 year left on it and another for just 3M$.

We are not going to trade one of the highest draft pick this team has ever had while we are in dire need of top notch young talent.

And to top it off we already have another first round pick even if it is just #30.

There is more of a chance of us trading up from say #4 to #2 to draft McLemore than us trading down to #14. That is absurd.

This is true. Top picks are everything in the NBA. So different from the NFL draft.

[JohnVancouver]

How about this scenario?

Trade our '13 lottery pick to the Utah Jazz for Burks and their two picks in the draft.

You can't be serious, trading a top 5 pick for a #14 pick and a pick in the 20s is an hilarious thought.

In this draft, maybe not so bad an idea. See where you land after the balls stop bouncing and check out the likely picks before you. If who you love is likely gone, look at who's going to be around later.

Burke, Noel, Porter, McLemore and Oladipo will be the top 5. McLemore is a must-take if he's there, but is Oladipo, much as I love his game?

[DRK]

How about this scenario?

Trade our '13 lottery pick to the Utah Jazz for Burks and their two picks in the draft.

You can't be serious, trading a top 5 pick for a #14 pick and a pick in the 20s is an hilarious thought.

In this draft, maybe not so bad an idea. See where you land after the balls stop bouncing and check out the likely picks before you. If who you love is likely gone, look at who's going to be around later.

Burke, Noel, Porter, McLemore and Oladipo will be the top 5. McLemore is a must-take if he's there, but is Oladipo, much as I love his game?

Nope. As of now, Oladipo screams "role-player" to me.

Lets puts all our balls in one basket and go for Bazz.