Official Suns Free Agent/Trade/Transaction Thread

[ruiner]

Nuggets have a much better offer for Love than the suns.
- Faried, New York pick 2014, Galinari, Nuggets pick 2014...

That doesn't drop Wolves down much at all and fixes their need for a SF..
Pekovic, Faried, Galinari, Martin, Rubio....

I am 100% with you. Nuggets have a much better offer, However I think the trade would not only the best offer. I think the best scenario for Love a team played for him offensively (and i think he wants it, thats amazing he play with bled and dragig). And i look our time in this position.

to have more chance of success in a trade for him, The best shot is the deadline. I think NYK can get worse ... I doubt the denver abdicate the top7 pick

You're forgetting that Love holds power regarding trades whether or not he agrees to an extensión. It's about who has the most pieces after trading for him leaving enough around him to win a championship. That would be us if our competition is Denver IMO.

YEP. It's amusing to me when fans of other teams play armchair GM about deals. Players get what they want in the NBA, and he'll go where HE wants to and sign/extend where he wants to. And teams are usually LUCKY to get a good return. Why wouldn't he want to come here to play with Bledsoe and Goran than what Denver has left over.

[McD for MVP]

I don't see why Love would want to play for a Denver team with no picks, Faried, or Gallo when he can come here are play for a better younger team that suits him perfectly.

[thamadkant]

1. because If Suns trade with Wolves the suns have to pony up half the team to make it worth while for Wolves.
2. Nuggets are 15-11 without Galinari and Mcgee.
Essentially Nuggets are not gutting their team to add Love (if they choose to).
Lawson, Love, Hickson, Chandler is a decent core.

3. Love has not mentioned Suns as a team he would like to play for or indicated it.

When I mentioned Nuggets it's just an example of offers the Wolves will get once Love does enter the market.

Other teams who may make offer.
- Thunder; Ibaka, Jones, picks etc
- Warriors; Barnes, Lee, picks
- Cavs; Waiters, Thompson, 2014 pick

Etc


My point is... Suns can offer an expiring and picks but would have to include Len, Goodwin, Morris, Etc to make it enticing.

Wolves would want to still be good even without Love, because of their roster (Martin, Rubio, Pekovic). They'd want high picks from other teams too while contending for 8th spot.
To me, Nuggets have a grand offer that tops most teams can offer... That New York pick is gold, Faried is a double double guy who will thrive with Rubio... Add in Galinari and the Wolves have a well rounded team with a potential top 10 pick (Knicks) and another pick in the mid range (15-22).

[Qwigglez]

I'm not sure what kind of package it would take, but I'd be really interested in seeing if Marc Gasol was available and what the price tag would be. I think he'd be an ideal fit for us, having the ability to post up, and he can hit the 15 foot jumper pretty consistently. A package of 3 1st Rounders, Okafor's expiring contract, and either Plumlee or Len. I think Plumlee's value should be relatively high with his performance this year, but I feel like a lot of it has to do with the system we're in.

[McD for MVP]

Plumlee is a keeper and his value will only get higher. No reason at all to trade him.

[ray ray]

The Suns want Kevin Love but they know that he's not attainable at this moment. Unless, they're on the downside like many have said. So the Suns might look elsewhere until KLove becomes available. The name that I keep hearing is Joakim Noah. I'm not sure if the Bulls are ready to trade one of their main pieces for cap space.

What I see is:

Suns Trade:
Emeka Okafor 14 mil ( expiring)
Ish Smith 875k
Dionte Christmas 490k
TWolves 1st round pick

Bulls trade:
Joakim Noah (11 mil)
Mike Dunleavy (3.1)


**This is something that I'm putting together , this is by no means what anyone is saying beside the Suns being interested in JNoah.

[Qwigglez]

Noah would be nice too...

[grumpysaddle]

The Suns want Kevin Love but they know that he's not attainable at this moment. Unless, they're on the downside like many have said. So the Suns might look elsewhere until KLove becomes available. The name that I keep hearing is Joakim Noah. I'm not sure if the Bulls are ready to trade one of their main pieces for cap space.

What I see is:

Suns Trade:
Emeka Okafor 14 mil ( expiring)
Ish Smith 875k
Dionte Christmas 490k
TWolves 1st round pick

Bulls trade:
Joakim Noah (11 mil)
Mike Dunleavy (3.1)


**This is something that I'm putting together , this is by no means what anyone is saying beside the Suns being interested in JNoah.

Would do that in a second, but I don't see the Bulls pulling the trigger for essentially an expiring and the MIN pick that has a high possibility of turning into two second round picks. I'm also happy right now with Plumlee as a starter. He seems to be building upon what he already has in his game, and has the ability, as shown last night, to be a monster rebounder. I don't see where Noah fits in with both Plumlee and Len still being on the team.

Granted, it's not a bad problem to have too much talent at the 5 spot (unless you are Houston, apparently), and that trade, if the Bulls, for whatever reason, accepted it would be highway robbery. Getting a great contributing player, a role player that knows his place, for two scrubs, an iffy pick, and an expiring that's never really fit into the plans for the Suns would be amazing.

[Christine-In-AZ]

I don't get this hyper infatuation with Love...finding ways to get him. It would cost ton in every important department, and he'd only marginally bump an already very good offense. His D rebounding would be a nice add, but overall he won't improve the defense that much...if at all. I don't get this "Love targeting" at all.

I'm not at all against trying to plug in something that might open the door to a possible "Cinderella run" this year. Something that doesn't break-up the core of this team, doesn't gut the glut of draft picks. and doesn't have long term money ramifications.

Tyson Chandler anyone?

Come the trade deadline, the Suns might be able to get him from the Knicks, and I doubt the cost would be that much. Okafor expiring & a pick or two might just do it. Maybe more, but not much more.

The youth movement continues unabated, but with an older, savvy rim protector on board that could open the door to all possible scenarios.

Keep the top 8 core. Add important "spice" where you can using none core assets. Just say no to Love or any other blockbuster...OMG! deals. Just Moneyball...McD Ball.

[Qwigglez]

I wonder if we could do a three-way trade where Bulls give Noah to Memphis, Suns get Gasol, and Bulls get picks, expiring contracts, and young prospects.

[Christine-In-AZ]

The Suns want Kevin Love but they know that he's not attainable at this moment. Unless, they're on the downside like many have said.

Hi rayray,

For me, this is really disappointing to hear. Oh well, you're the insider and it must be true.

What can you tell us about the Suns overall view of Emeka Okafor's role for the Suns this year? Is his fate locked into being simply an expiring contract trade chip? That the Suns have no hope or plans at all for a possible contributing return this year?

What are the details of the insurance policy on his contract? If the Suns trade him during the season and he doesn't play at all this year, would the Suns still get a slice of those insurance moneys to compensate salary paid up to the date of the trade?

Back to the simple question: Do the Suns see Okafor as a possible contributer or not?

[DRK]

The Suns want Kevin Love but they know that he's not attainable at this moment. Unless, they're on the downside like many have said.

Hi rayray,

For me, this is really disappointing to hear. Oh well, you're the insider and it must be true.

What can you tell us about the Suns overall view of Emeka Okafor's role for the Suns this year? Is his fate locked into being simply an expiring contract trade chip? That the Suns have no hope or plans at all for a possible contributing return this year?

What are the details of the insurance policy on his contract? If the Suns trade him during the season and he doesn't play at all this year, would the Suns still get a slice of those insurance moneys to compensate salary paid up to the date of the trade?


Back to the simple question: Do the Suns see Okafor as a possible cotributer or not?

If we make playoffs, I think Okafor would be huge for us when the pace slows down and we need to grind it out.

[Christine-In-AZ]

If we make playoffs, I think Okafor would be huge for us when the pace slows down and we need to grind it out.

I'm with ya...

...Even an 85-90% Okafor could open up all sorts of promising paths

That's why I asked rayray for his inside scoop on the FO view of Emeka

[thamadkant]

Okafor comes handy as dept for front court.
Suns are below average in defensive rebounds aren't they?

Okafor helps a bit there.

But Noah would be ideal since he can pass and outlet well.


Deng, Noah package would boost Suns to top 4 west IMO.

We keep going in circles though as mentioned that before a few times.

Any out of the left field trades?

[Kerrsed]

Looks like my Deng/Noah idea wasnt too far off.

I still think that if they trade Noah, they will look to dump another big salary contract with him (Deng or Boozer).

STARTERS:
Bledsoe/Dragic/Deng/Frye/Noah

BENCH:
Goodwin/Tucker/Morris/Morris/Plumlee

TOWL-WAIVERS:
Green/Len/Krav

That would give us great depth and we would absolutely be a threat in the play-offs!

[carey]

The thing about Noah is that he already plays the Longabardi/T.T. defense. He'd fit right in. I'm just not all that interested in moving Plumlee to the bench or sending him to Chicago. Noah is always battling some kind of injury or another. I just don't know...

[carey]

I'm not sure what kind of package it would take, but I'd be really interested in seeing if Marc Gasol was available and what the price tag would be. I think he'd be an ideal fit for us, having the ability to post up, and he can hit the 15 foot jumper pretty consistently. A package of 3 1st Rounders, Okafor's expiring contract, and either Plumlee or Len. I think Plumlee's value should be relatively high with his performance this year, but I feel like a lot of it has to do with the system we're in.

Another guy with only 1 and 1/2 years left on his deal. Have to think hard about what you're willing to offer for a guy that could walk in 18 months.

[Ring_Wanted]

Noah for just expirings plus Minni's pick would be Lupin-esque.

But in my opinion if you are Chicago such a low return it's absurd unless you are taking Boozer too. Noah, although a perennial injury concern, still has a lot of value and would be a terrific addition to any playoff team. Also, if you are trading Noah you might as well move Deng for whatever you can get. Boozer should be untradeable unless you take Amare or similar.

I think the Suns' offer for Noah would need to be at least two first rounders or one pick plus someone tangible Chicago would like.

Would you trade Okafor, the Morii and Indiana's pick for Noah and Deng?

[Ring_Wanted]

I'm not at all against trying to plug in something that might open the door to a possible "Cinderella run" this year. Something that doesn't break-up the core of this team, doesn't gut the glut of draft picks. and doesn't have long term money ramifications.

So what would be an actual package that fits this description, and what do you think it could get us? Sounds to me like a pretty narrow space to operate.

[grumpysaddle]

Noah for just expirings plus Minni's pick would be Lupin-esque.

But in my opinion if you are Chicago such a low return it's absurd unless you are taking Boozer too. Noah, although a perennial injury concern, still has a lot of value and would be a terrific addition to any playoff team. Also, if you are trading Noah you might as well move Deng for whatever you can get. Boozer should be untradeable unless you take Amare or similar.

I think the Suns' offer for Noah would need to be at least two first rounders or one pick plus someone tangible Chicago would like.

Would you trade Okafor, the Morii and Indiana's pick for Noah and Deng?

No. Okafor, Green, Indiana's pick, and a second rounder, yes.