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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1421 » by RaisingArizona » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:26 am

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way to step in with the disregard for behavior. So much for the credo this phony front office was trumpeting.


You can try to pin the blame on them but it appears our golden boy was a large part of the issues in the locker room. Starting an altercation with IT? Shame on the Mo. Bros for stepping in :roll:

Eric and PJ also are up there in T's, yet you only call out the Mo. Bros. Pretty typical.

Also, I still don't see any news/charges on them. It's been like what, 3 weeks now? No evidence, no victims, no photos, no testimony. What's the hold up, Frank?


I didn't imply the MoBros caused the locker room scuffle... I didn't know who, but it happened, and I know no details, I must have missed that days discussion. And sorry if I failed to mention the 'teams' excessive Ts... shame on me. But yes, I don't like punk ass thugs who beat people up. I don't like players who have to be restrained from their coaches who say quit acting like a pussy. (I also don't like coaches who allow that to happen) I don't like players who refuse post game interviews so the can go party with their posse. How many apologies are they going to tweet ??? I don't like selfless checkers and I despise grown ass men who dress alike. There I said it... I'm a twinaphobe.

The locker room is imploding....Cant you see that ? But you are right, its not all on them. There is no leadership whatsoever.

Oh... whats the hold up ? really ? This is purely a monetary issue right now. The 'hold up' will be at the bank of MoBro. If they didn't have deep pockets, and the FO wasn't trying to blanket the incident to protect their trade value (isn't it clear, McDuh is all about trade value) this crap would have been in the papers. Its being conveniently rug swept. You'll probably be able to maintain the 'no proof' line, as money, significant money, can buy silence.


Marcus yelling at Horny was unacceptable, I agree with you there. However, they took care of the issue internally and moved on. Everyone seems to be losing their tempers this year-- including us.

The postgame conference stuff, really, who cares? The media seems to ask the same, tired questions and these guys rarely have anything insightful to add to the conversation. He only missed one press conference if I'm not mistaken-- he's not exactly Marshawn Lynch.

There's two sides to every story, that's all I'm saying. We don't know who instigated the altercation, how bad it was, who was involved, etc. Yes, I guess I am skeptical of the case still. Should we assume guilt and not innocence before the facts are presented?
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1423 » by SunZel » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:28 am

Going to be awkward with Zoran still on he Suns...
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1424 » by In Len We Trust » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:31 am

SunZel wrote:Going to be awkward with Zoran still on he Suns...

Any team that trades for Goran would demand Zoran for obvious reasons
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1425 » by In Len We Trust » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:33 am

ginobiliflops wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:
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You can try to pin the blame on them but it appears our golden boy was a large part of the issues in the locker room. Starting an altercation with IT? Shame on the Mo. Bros for stepping in :roll:

Eric and PJ also are up there in T's, yet you only call out the Mo. Bros. Pretty typical.

Also, I still don't see any news/charges on them. It's been like what, 3 weeks now? No evidence, no victims, no photos, no testimony. What's the hold up, Frank?


I didn't imply the MoBros caused the locker room scuffle... I didn't know who, but it happened, and I know no details, I must have missed that days discussion. And sorry if I failed to mention the 'teams' excessive Ts... shame on me. But yes, I don't like punk ass thugs who beat people up. I don't like players who have to be restrained from their coaches who say quit acting like a pussy. (I also don't like coaches who allow that to happen) I don't like players who refuse post game interviews so the can go party with their posse. How many apologies are they going to tweet ??? I don't like selfless checkers and I despise grown ass men who dress alike. There I said it... I'm a twinaphobe.

The locker room is imploding....Cant you see that ? But you are right, its not all on them. There is no leadership whatsoever.

Oh... whats the hold up ? really ? This is purely a monetary issue right now. The 'hold up' will be at the bank of MoBro. If they didn't have deep pockets, and the FO wasn't trying to blanket the incident to protect their trade value (isn't it clear, McDuh is all about trade value) this crap would have been in the papers. Its being conveniently rug swept. You'll probably be able to maintain the 'no proof' line, as money, significant money, can buy silence.


Marcus yelling at Horny was unacceptable, I agree with you there. However, they took care of the issue internally and moved on. Everyone seems to be losing their tempers this year-- including us.

The postgame conference stuff, really, who cares? The media seems to ask the same, tired questions and these guys rarely have anything insightful to add to the conversation. He only missed one press conference if I'm not mistaken-- he's not exactly Marshawn Lynch.

There's two sides to every story, that's all I'm saying. We don't know who instigated the altercation, how bad it was, who was involved, etc. Yes, I guess I am skeptical of the case still. Should we assume guilt and not innocence before the facts are presented?



Why are you always so adamant to suggest that nothing is going wrong and everything is perfect all the time?


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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1426 » by MilotheSlayer » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:35 am

The elusive 4 team steamer
(all trades checked on trade machine)

Phx in: Monroe, Joel Anthony, Datome

Min in: KG

BKN in: Young, Jennings, Jerebko, Butler

Det in: JoeJohnson, Goran, Zoran, Plumlee
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1427 » by bwgood77 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:36 am

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Greatest 3-man tank lineup. Whole new definition of firesale


Reminds me of when some guy either here or on the old espn forum would continually post a trade of OKC's entire roster for our entire roster. It was always funny.


OMG. That was me! On the ESPN forums. This place is turning eerily reminiscent of that bowel movement of a message board.


Well if everyone has new names but me, where the hell is babyshaq? And is WiseOldSun JDLAW or was WiseOldSun only a bandwagon fan?
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1428 » by 3rdside » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:36 am

ginobiliflops wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
You can try to pin the blame on them but it appears our golden boy was a large part of the issues in the locker room. Starting an altercation with IT? Shame on the Mo. Bros for stepping in :roll:

Eric and PJ also are up there in T's, yet you only call out the Mo. Bros. Pretty typical.

Also, I still don't see any news/charges on them. It's been like what, 3 weeks now? No evidence, no victims, no photos, no testimony. What's the hold up, Frank?


I didn't imply the MoBros caused the locker room scuffle... I didn't know who, but it happened, and I know no details, I must have missed that days discussion. And sorry if I failed to mention the 'teams' excessive Ts... shame on me. But yes, I don't like punk ass thugs who beat people up. I don't like players who have to be restrained from their coaches who say quit acting like a pussy. (I also don't like coaches who allow that to happen) I don't like players who refuse post game interviews so the can go party with their posse. How many apologies are they going to tweet ??? I don't like selfless checkers and I despise grown ass men who dress alike. There I said it... I'm a twinaphobe.

The locker room is imploding....Cant you see that ? But you are right, its not all on them. There is no leadership whatsoever.

Oh... whats the hold up ? really ? This is purely a monetary issue right now. The 'hold up' will be at the bank of MoBro. If they didn't have deep pockets, and the FO wasn't trying to blanket the incident to protect their trade value (isn't it clear, McDuh is all about trade value) this crap would have been in the papers. Its being conveniently rug swept. You'll probably be able to maintain the 'no proof' line, as money, significant money, can buy silence.


Marcus yelling at Horny was unacceptable, I agree with you there. However, they took care of the issue internally and moved on. Everyone seems to be losing their tempers this year-- including us.

The postgame conference stuff, really, who cares? The media seems to ask the same, tired questions and these guys rarely have anything insightful to add to the conversation. He only missed one press conference if I'm not mistaken-- he's not exactly Marshawn Lynch.

There's two sides to every story, that's all I'm saying. We don't know who instigated the altercation, how bad it was, who was involved, etc. Yes, I guess I am skeptical of the case still. Should we assume guilt and not innocence before the facts are presented?


Where there's smoke there's fire...not always true but does anyone think otherwise in this case? Really?
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1429 » by RaisingArizona » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:38 am

In Len We Trust wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:
I didn't imply the MoBros caused the locker room scuffle... I didn't know who, but it happened, and I know no details, I must have missed that days discussion. And sorry if I failed to mention the 'teams' excessive Ts... shame on me. But yes, I don't like punk ass thugs who beat people up. I don't like players who have to be restrained from their coaches who say quit acting like a pussy. (I also don't like coaches who allow that to happen) I don't like players who refuse post game interviews so the can go party with their posse. How many apologies are they going to tweet ??? I don't like selfless checkers and I despise grown ass men who dress alike. There I said it... I'm a twinaphobe.

The locker room is imploding....Cant you see that ? But you are right, its not all on them. There is no leadership whatsoever.

Oh... whats the hold up ? really ? This is purely a monetary issue right now. The 'hold up' will be at the bank of MoBro. If they didn't have deep pockets, and the FO wasn't trying to blanket the incident to protect their trade value (isn't it clear, McDuh is all about trade value) this crap would have been in the papers. Its being conveniently rug swept. You'll probably be able to maintain the 'no proof' line, as money, significant money, can buy silence.


Marcus yelling at Horny was unacceptable, I agree with you there. However, they took care of the issue internally and moved on. Everyone seems to be losing their tempers this year-- including us.

The postgame conference stuff, really, who cares? The media seems to ask the same, tired questions and these guys rarely have anything insightful to add to the conversation. He only missed one press conference if I'm not mistaken-- he's not exactly Marshawn Lynch.

There's two sides to every story, that's all I'm saying. We don't know who instigated the altercation, how bad it was, who was involved, etc. Yes, I guess I am skeptical of the case still. Should we assume guilt and not innocence before the facts are presented?



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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1430 » by RunDogGun » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:39 am

SunZel wrote:Going to be awkward with Zoran still on he Suns...

I think the FO will want to start him, and hope no one notices. Our home crowd surely won't, they barely know there is a game going on. It's all about free hotdogs at the Lounge and trying to catch the t-shirts.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1431 » by SunsFanSSOL » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:39 am

But according to a person with knowledge of his situation, the fifth year is not a factor for Dragic as he weighs his uncertain future. Dragic has been smart with his money, it seems, and the allure of the extra guaranteed year is not expected to have any sway on his free agency decision. The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

Dragic appears far more concerned with the fit with his future team, about being on a playoff contender or — in the cases of the Lakers and Knicks — about helping one of the league's flagship franchises get back on its feet. The tricky part, of course, is that the teams on Dragic's list don't appear to have the kinds of assets (promising young player and a first-round pick) that the Suns want, while some teams that are not on his list clearly do.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /23659227/
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1432 » by SunsFanSSOL » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:41 am

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But according to a person with knowledge of his situation, the fifth year is not a factor for Dragic as he weighs his uncertain future. Dragic has been smart with his money, it seems, and the allure of the extra guaranteed year is not expected to have any sway on his free agency decision. The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

Dragic appears far more concerned with the fit with his future team, about being on a playoff contender or — in the cases of the Lakers and Knicks — about helping one of the league's flagship franchises get back on its feet. The tricky part, of course, is that the teams on Dragic's list don't appear to have the kinds of assets (promising young player and a first-round pick) that the Suns want, while some teams that are not on his list clearly do.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /23659227/


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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1433 » by RunDogGun » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:42 am

bwgood77 wrote:
grumpysaddle wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Reminds me of when some guy either here or on the old espn forum would continually post a trade of OKC's entire roster for our entire roster. It was always funny.


OMG. That was me! On the ESPN forums. This place is turning eerily reminiscent of that bowel movement of a message board.


Well if everyone has new names but me, where the hell is babyshaq?

GMAT posted here under the same name, as did John Vancouver. I think many of us just want to forget that place ever existed. :D
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1434 » by Revived » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:43 am

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Here's the better question going forward...do you really want IT as your starting shooting guard?


Why not give the guy a shot at it first , Before doubting ?

Because it's common sense. You don't put IT as SG to try it, it's obvious gonna fail.
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Post#1435 » by grumpysaddle » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:44 am

bwgood77 wrote:
grumpysaddle wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Reminds me of when some guy either here or on the old espn forum would continually post a trade of OKC's entire roster for our entire roster. It was always funny.


OMG. That was me! On the ESPN forums. This place is turning eerily reminiscent of that bowel movement of a message board.


Well if everyone has new names but me, where the hell is babyshaq? And is WiseOldSun JDLAW or was WiseOldSun only a bandwagon fan?


I don't even remember what my name was there.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1436 » by bwgood77 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:46 am

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But according to a person with knowledge of his situation, the fifth year is not a factor for Dragic as he weighs his uncertain future. Dragic has been smart with his money, it seems, and the allure of the extra guaranteed year is not expected to have any sway on his free agency decision. The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

Dragic appears far more concerned with the fit with his future team, about being on a playoff contender or — in the cases of the Lakers and Knicks — about helping one of the league's flagship franchises get back on its feet. The tricky part, of course, is that the teams on Dragic's list don't appear to have the kinds of assets (promising young player and a first-round pick) that the Suns want, while some teams that are not on his list clearly do.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /23659227/


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Good info, but taking a year off the demand doesn't help us in a trade offer....it just makes it more evident he would walk rather than stay here, because he is ok with four years....so that lessens our leverage...not that we have much if LA, NY and Miami are the only places he wants to go, and they don't have assets (I'm of the assumption the Lakers won't give up a chance at getting Okafor, Towns or whoever (by reducing the protection) to trade for Dragic, or give up Randle, and Miami wouldn't give up Bosh).
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1437 » by bwgood77 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:47 am

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bigsportsfan2 wrote:
Here's the better question going forward...do you really want IT as your starting shooting guard?


Why not give the guy a shot at it first , Before doubting ?

Because it's common sense. You don't put IT as SG to try it, it's obvious gonna fail.


Common sense isn't as common as you'd like it to be.
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Post#1438 » by Revived » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:47 am

It's amazing that we haven't actually heard a word about which team we're mostly talking with or what players/picks we're interested in.

It's good for the FO to have a leak proof front office but as a fan it's annoying lol.
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Post#1439 » by grumpysaddle » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:48 am

What if this is all just a big ploy to get the Lakers to remove protection completely on that pick for Dragic. Dragic joins the Lakers and makes them suck even more, guaranteeing a probable 1st overall pick. Then he re-signs with the Suns in the off-season. Nash and Dragic have been working together the whole time to destroy the Lakers.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1440 » by RaisingArizona » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:52 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:
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But according to a person with knowledge of his situation, the fifth year is not a factor for Dragic as he weighs his uncertain future. Dragic has been smart with his money, it seems, and the allure of the extra guaranteed year is not expected to have any sway on his free agency decision. The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

Dragic appears far more concerned with the fit with his future team, about being on a playoff contender or — in the cases of the Lakers and Knicks — about helping one of the league's flagship franchises get back on its feet. The tricky part, of course, is that the teams on Dragic's list don't appear to have the kinds of assets (promising young player and a first-round pick) that the Suns want, while some teams that are not on his list clearly do.


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