Trade Discussion

[saintEscaton]

I mean, I like DMo plenty, but he's coming off a back injury and will get PAID this summer under the crazy cap, so it's not the end of the world to get a pick. And honestly, while many hate this draft, I think some guys I like will be available there.

we just gotta find the long limbed freak players. 2013 draft was pretty bad but they had two of those freak players in Giannis and Rudy Gobert.

What would you give up to get Gobert?

Definitely not Len, maybe Chandler

[AtheJ415]

It was the 18th pick. We took Ennis. I believe we had the 14th and took Warren.

I mean, I like DMo plenty, but he's coming off a back injury and will get PAID this summer under the crazy cap, so it's not the end of the world to get a pick. And honestly, while many hate this draft, I think some guys I like will be available there.

we just gotta find the long limbed freak players. 2013 draft was pretty bad but they had two of those freak players in Giannis and Rudy Gobert.

Zhou Qi would be that guy this year, but there are questions as to just how old he is. But, we could get him maybe even with the Cleveland pick.

[SC923]

Just saw we can have up to $40mil in cap this summer. Also never really thought of this but we were were 48-34 with 3 first rounders and a lot of cap space 2 years ago. How in the world did McD find a way to **** this bad

[bwgood77]

Just saw we can have up to $40mil in cap this summer. Also never really thought of this but we were were 48-34 with 3 first rounders and a lot of cap space 2 years ago. How in the world did McD find a way to **** this bad

Cap space at this point is overrated. Every team has it. Phx PROBABLY doesn't have the best reputation among players at this point. At least the last couple of summers we were a fringe playoff team. Now we have players wanting out and bad mouthing the organization and we are terrible. The Lakers are the Lakers. Philly has Colangelo...which should help.

We just have to hope we kill the draft and build from within....I'm not terribly confident we can land anyone worthwhile in free agency. I'll be happy to keep Leuer, and hopefully we draft a PF that develops quickly.

[dremill24]

we just gotta find the long limbed freak players. 2013 draft was pretty bad but they had two of those freak players in Giannis and Rudy Gobert.

What would you give up to get Gobert?

Definitely not Len, maybe Chandler

Green means sarcasm right?

[AtheJ415]

Just saw we can have up to $40mil in cap this summer. Also never really thought of this but we were were 48-34 with 3 first rounders and a lot of cap space 2 years ago. How in the world did McD find a way to **** this bad

If you think we were legitimately 48-34 (in the sense of that team remaining together being able to replicate that performance), then I really question that belief. I don't think McD ****ed it up. I think we overachieved and came back down to earth. I mean, look at who we had and how they're performing elsewhere. Now look at who our best players are remaining. They're all guys McD picked. I'd be scared to think of where we'd be if we didn't have McD and didn't draft Len, Warren, Bogdan, and Booker, while trading for Bledsoe.

[letsgosuns]

Best chance for the Suns is to trade for a star player and not try to sign one. Going after Durant seems like waste of time. And the rest of the free agent class sucks. It is really bad. http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/16/nba-free-agency-2016-the-top-players/ The only guy I like is Conley.

The reason that the cap space is so important though is because the Suns can absorb a max free agent in a trade without giving up anything other than picks. Let's hypothetically say the Suns get the 3rd or 4th pick in the draft and the Rockets want to trade Harden. The Suns could trade that pick and nothing else for Harden. I am not saying that trade is plausible, just giving an example. The trade would probably have to completed sometime after the draft though after the Suns get in order what their exact cap space availability is but the trade can be agreed upon on draft night.

[bwgood77]

Best chance for the Suns is to trade for a star player and not try to sign one. Going after Durant seems like waste of time. And the rest of the free agent class sucks. It is really bad. http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/16/nba-free-agency-2016-the-top-players/ The only guy I like is Conley.

The reason that the cap space is so important though is because the Suns can absorb a max free agent in a trade without giving up anything other than picks. Let's hypothetically say the Suns get the 3rd or 4th pick in the draft and the Rockets want to trade Harden. The Suns could trade that pick and nothing else for Harden. I am not saying that trade is plausible, just giving an example. The trade would probably have to completed sometime after the draft though after the Suns get in order what their exact cap space availability is but the trade can be agreed upon on draft night.

Oh, I love having max cap space, don't get me wrong, but 20 other teams will probably have max cap space too. A team like Detroit capitalized on it now instead of having a 1 in 20 chance on a guy in the summer.

[letsgosuns]

Best chance for the Suns is to trade for a star player and not try to sign one. Going after Durant seems like waste of time. And the rest of the free agent class sucks. It is really bad. http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/16/nba-free-agency-2016-the-top-players/ The only guy I like is Conley.

The reason that the cap space is so important though is because the Suns can absorb a max free agent in a trade without giving up anything other than picks. Let's hypothetically say the Suns get the 3rd or 4th pick in the draft and the Rockets want to trade Harden. The Suns could trade that pick and nothing else for Harden. I am not saying that trade is plausible, just giving an example. The trade would probably have to completed sometime after the draft though after the Suns get in order what their exact cap space availability is but the trade can be agreed upon on draft night.

Oh, I love having max cap space, don't get me wrong, but 20 other teams will probably have max cap space too. A team like Detroit capitalized on it now instead of having a 1 in 20 chance on a guy in the summer.

Yeah but how many teams that have max space have trade assets like the Suns. The Suns pick is probably going to be top 5 and they can trade it if they choose to for a superstar and just absorb the max contract. They do not have to worry about matching salaries.

[SC923]

Just saw we can have up to $40mil in cap this summer. Also never really thought of this but we were were 48-34 with 3 first rounders and a lot of cap space 2 years ago. How in the world did McD find a way to **** this bad

If you think we were legitimately 48-34 (in the sense of that team remaining together being able to replicate that performance), then I really question that belief. I don't think McD ****ed it up. I think we overachieved and came back down to earth. I mean, look at who we had and how they're performing elsewhere. Now look at who our best players are remaining. They're all guys McD picked. I'd be scared to think of where we'd be if we didn't have McD and didn't draft Len, Warren, Bogdan, and Booker, while trading for Bledsoe.

Agreed. Hes been great but i think he messed up with the IT sign and trade. He got him for a great price but the three Pg system wasnt working... Goran wanted out and it all went down hill from there. Still not sure why he saw Knight worth IT and the Lakers pick

[AtheJ415]

We shouldn't use our space this year. Durant is the only guy worth it who will be an FA. Let other teams overpay, then go for FA next season when fewer teams have max space.

[DirtyDez]

We shouldn't use our space this year. Durant is the only guy worth it who will be an FA. Let other teams overpay, then go for FA next season when fewer teams have max space.

My worst fear is them shelling out dough that wouldn't significantly improve the team. I'm hoping we tank (err draft pick position ourselves) for one more year. Something major will still go down this summer. Bled/Knight/Book/Goodwin/Bogdan? No way possible they can all be on the same roster when healthy.

[jredsaz]

The question is how much better are we going to be with Knight and Leuer back? I hope we can continue this one win every ten games streak we got going. #NoWininForSimmons

If we end up with the second or third pick there is going to be wild speculation about trades. This place is going to go balistic.

[saintEscaton]

The question is how much better are we going to be with Knight and Leuer back? I hope we can continue this one win every ten games streak we got going. #NoWininForSimmons

If we end up with the second or third pick there is going to be wild speculation about trades. This place is going to go balistic.

There should be no speculation if we get the second pick, its a must keep

[jredsaz]

The question is how much better are we going to be with Knight and Leuer back? I hope we can continue this one win every ten games streak we got going. #NoWininForSimmons

If we end up with the second or third pick there is going to be wild speculation about trades. This place is going to go balistic.

There should be no speculation if we get the second pick, its a must keep

I wouldn't say that at all man. Ingram looks good but it's no lock at this point he is a sure fire stud at the next level. There are players that could become available that at least require consideration.

[rsavaj]

I feel like the rate limiting ingredient is still Sarver. We've heard about his desire to end the playoff drought multiple times. That worries me, because I forsee him pushing McD to make the best treadmill team he possibly can. McD might comply since he's most likely already on the hot seat.

I don't want to see us overpay some mediocre FA this summer, or trade our picks for a guy who doesn't really add to our foundation, but with Sarver on board, I am really convinced that this franchise's direction will remain askew.

[RunDogGun]

I feel like the rate limiting ingredient is still Sarver. We've heard about his desire to end the playoff drought multiple times. That worries me, because I forsee him pushing McD to make the best treadmill team he possibly can. McD might comply since he's most likely already on the hot seat.

I don't want to see us overpay some mediocre FA this summer, or trade our picks for a guy who doesn't really add to our foundation, but with Sarver on board, I am really convinced that this franchise's direction will remain askew.

Everyone will most likely overpay for FAs this offseason.

[Walt_Uoob]

Best chance for the Suns is to trade for a star player and not try to sign one. Going after Durant seems like waste of time. And the rest of the free agent class sucks. It is really bad. http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/16/nba-free-agency-2016-the-top-players/ The only guy I like is Conley.

I dunno, that class could be worse. I'm down with tanking another year too, but if our cap space is / could become enough to sign both Horford and Batum, we could start the season with:

Bledsoe / Knight
Booker / Goodwin
Batum / Warren / Tucker
Horford / Leuer
Chandler / Len

AND keep all our draft picks.

So then we could trade some of our guys (maybe Tucker and Leuer, maybe Knight or Bledsoe) for future picks to keep the talent coming in and clear up room to develop our new draftees. Or we could put together a damn good package of picks and players for a star to put us over the top.

Now I vaguely remember that feeling of excitement when we thought we might get LA and everything was looking up. Our record is worse than our team is. We could be deep in the playoffs in a year or two if things break right.

[saintEscaton]

The question is how much better are we going to be with Knight and Leuer back? I hope we can continue this one win every ten games streak we got going. #NoWininForSimmons

If we end up with the second or third pick there is going to be wild speculation about trades. This place is going to go balistic.

There should be no speculation if we get the second pick, its a must keep

I wouldn't say that at all man. Ingram looks good but it's no lock at this point he is a sure fire stud at the next level. There are players that could become available that at least require consideration.

You can say that about Simmons too. They are 1a and 1b

[jredsaz]

There should be no speculation if we get the second pick, its a must keep

I wouldn't say that at all man. Ingram looks good but it's no lock at this point he is a sure fire stud at the next level. There are players that could become available that at least require consideration.

You can say that about Simmons too. They are 1a and 1b

I don't know if that is actually the case. Long way to go. I think if Simmons is the pick its a lock. After that there is room for debate.