The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2

Post #1421 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:59 am

Kerrsed wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:What would people think of this? From trade board

I'd offer up Tyreke Evans for Knight and not think twice about it.

Nope. I'd rather take a shot on #8 than Evans.

So nope even if we don't trade for 8?

8on · Post #1422 » by **8on** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:04 am

actually.....i would trade one of our picks for Evans. #13 in a heartbeat. there would have to be a kicker for #4, but i'm not attached to it by any means.

Tyreke Evans 2015-16
25 G
15.2 PPG
5.2 RPG
6.6 APG
48.6 eFG%

not that many 15/5/5 guys out there. i'll take him in whatever shape he's in. Bled, Knight and Reke? Absolutely.

8on · Post #1423 » by **8on** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:06 am

here's the thing, though: 2016-17 is his last contract year.

here's ANOTHER thing: he has the same agent as Knight. (uhhhhhh)

so i really wouldn't miss 4 or 13 that much, but we're not locked into him from a salary cap perspective. we can sign him for half next summer or ditch him. it's definitely worth experimenting......as long as everybody leaves their egos at the door, unlike last time. #pointguarddrama

TeamTragic · Post #1424 » by **TeamTragic** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:08 am

dantley4prez wrote:actually.....i would trade one of our picks for Evans. #13 in a heartbeat. there would have to be a kicker for #4, but i'm not attached to it by any means.

Tyreke Evans 2015-16
25 G
15.2 PPG
5.2 RPG
6.6 APG
48.6 eFG%

not that many 15/5/5 guys out there. i'll take him in whatever shape he's in. Bled, Knight and Reke? Absolutely.

What the hell? We don't need Evans when we have Knight. We are actually trying to trade Knight in case you missed it :lol:

letsgosuns wrote:Gary Tanguay ‏@Gary_Tanguay 6m6 minutes ago
Celts and Sixers trade talk heats up. Philly really really wants Dunn per Tim Welsch. @CSNNE

Simmons/Dunn. Okafor/Noel are pretty much on their way out.

bwgood77 wrote:What would people think of this? From trade board

I'd offer up Tyreke Evans for Knight and not think twice about it.

That doesn't solve anything. Evans sucks as a defender. Pass.

YouTube · Post #1425 » by **Kerrsed** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:09 am

bwgood77 wrote:So nope even if we don't trade for 8?

I dont know man. I was high on Evans years back, but at this point, he really isnt that good of a defender, really doesnt have the size to play SF, so would be regulated to coming off the bench behind Booker at SG. Sure, he gets a good amount of assists/rebounds for a SG, but he also has to play a large amount of minutes in order to do so. If he plays less than 30 minutes a game, he doesnt do nearly as well. Add in his injury history and the fact that his contract is also only good for 1 more year, and i think Knight holds much much much more value than him.

8on · Post #1426 » by **8on** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:23 am

GoranTragic wrote:
dantley4prez wrote:actually.....i would trade one of our picks for Evans. #13 in a heartbeat. there would have to be a kicker for #4, but i'm not attached to it by any means.

Tyreke Evans 2015-16
25 G
15.2 PPG
5.2 RPG
6.6 APG
48.6 eFG%

not that many 15/5/5 guys out there. i'll take him in whatever shape he's in. Bled, Knight and Reke? Absolutely.

What the hell? We don't need Evans when we have Knight. We are actually trying to trade Knight in case you missed it

i don't understand, either. let's play Reke at the 3, and.....not trade Knight. besides, why do they want Knight when they're probably drafting Murray or Hield?

Post #1427 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:24 am

dantley4prez wrote:actually.....i would trade one of our picks for Evans. #13 in a heartbeat. there would have to be a kicker for #4, but i'm not attached to it by any means.

Tyreke Evans 2015-16
25 G
15.2 PPG
5.2 RPG
6.6 APG
48.6 eFG%

not that many 15/5/5 guys out there. i'll take him in whatever shape he's in. Bled, Knight and Reke? Absolutely.

His advanced stats were especially good in 2014-15. In 2015-16 he compares favorably to Knight across the board. More assists, fewer turnovers, more rebounds, better fg%, better 3pt fg%....actually HAS size. Could play pg if Bledsoe went down.

http://bkref.com/tiny/vyuUV

Post #1428 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:26 am

Kerrsed wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:So nope even if we don't trade for 8?

I dont know man. I was high on Evans years back, but at this point, he really isnt that good of a defender, really doesnt have the size to play SF, so would be regulated to coming off the bench behind Booker at SG. Sure, he gets a good amount of assists/rebounds for a SG, but he also has to play a large amount of minutes in order to do so. If he plays less than 30 minutes a game, he doesnt do nearly as well. Add in his injury history and the fact that his contract is also only good for 1 more year, and i think Knight holds much much much more value than him.

Perhaps. If I thought Knight could make better decisions with the ball and/or cover at pg if needed, or could play multiple positions, or we didn't have Booker, I'd definitely agree. But I'm not sure. It would depend on injury history and outlook for Evans though.

Post #1429 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:20 am

How about this trade from Trade forum?

Warriors trade Barnes S&T and Kevon Looney for PJ Tucker, Quincy Pondexter, Toney Douglas and Alexis Ajinca
Pelicans trade Pondexter, Ajinca, Douglas, Tyreke Evans and 2017 first round pick for Barnes and Brandon Knight
Suns trade Tucker and Knight for Evans, Looney, and Pelicans' 2017 first round pick

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1430 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:21 am

Evans? Wow I can't believe people would really want him. No

TeamTragic · Post #1431 » by **TeamTragic** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:25 am

bwgood77 wrote:How about this trade from Trade forum?

Warriors trade Barnes S&T and Kevon Looney for PJ Tucker, Quincy Pondexter, Toney Douglas and Alexis Ajinca
Pelicans trade Pondexter, Ajinca, Douglas, Tyreke Evans and 2017 first round pick for Barnes and Brandon Knight
Suns trade Tucker and Knight for Evans, Looney, and Pelicans' 2017 first round pick

Can we waive both players and keep the pick? Protection?

thamadkant · Post #1432 » by **thamadkant** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:01 am

I rather have Batum over Evans 10 out of 10 times.

Batum is like Iguadala.
Players who dont have to score or take shots, but makes the right play offensively and defensively.

Batume is a true smart veteran that can positively help the youth in Booker, Goodwin, Len and the rookies the Suns plan to draft.

I like Bledsoe but I dont think he can teach the youth much, he is very physically capable but isnt cerebral or tactical. Dont get me started with Knight.

pelifan · Post #1433 » by **pelifan** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:18 am

dantley4prez wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
dantley4prez wrote:actually.....i would trade one of our picks for Evans. #13 in a heartbeat. there would have to be a kicker for #4, but i'm not attached to it by any means.

Tyreke Evans 2015-16
25 G
15.2 PPG
5.2 RPG
6.6 APG
48.6 eFG%

not that many 15/5/5 guys out there. i'll take him in whatever shape he's in. Bled, Knight and Reke? Absolutely.

What the hell? We don't need Evans when we have Knight. We are actually trying to trade Knight in case you missed it

i don't understand, either. let's play Reke at the 3, and.....not trade Knight. besides, why do they want Knight when they're probably drafting Murray or Hield?

Hi Pelicans fan here. Tyreke at the 3 should really only be domes for stretches.

But as far as why we would want Knight, we have a 2 guards about to expire and we can let the rookie learn for a year. We also have a veery injury prone lead guard so I think it makes a lot of sense to buy low on a pg who Davis can make look way better than he actually is.

thamadkant · Post #1434 » by **thamadkant** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:37 am

pelifan wrote:
dantley4prez wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
What the hell? We don't need Evans when we have Knight. We are actually trying to trade Knight in case you missed it

i don't understand, either. let's play Reke at the 3, and.....not trade Knight. besides, why do they want Knight when they're probably drafting Murray or Hield?

Hi Pelicans fan here. Tyreke at the 3 should really only be domes for stretches.

But as far as why we would want Knight, we have a 2 guards about to expire and we can let the rookie learn for a year. We also have a veery injury prone lead guard so I think it makes a lot of sense to buy low on a pg who Davis can make look way better than he actually is.

I think Knight for Pelicans pick is fair.

Knight is signed for 4 years at 14 million a year.

He would work well with Tyreke Evans, because Evans is 6'5 and a Point Guard in a Shooting Guard's body, whilst Knight is a shooting guard in a point guard's body.

Jrue Holiday brings the IQ.

Jrue Holiday controlling the offense with Knight and Tyreke along with Davis works well in a fast tempo offense that Gentry plans to run.

You guys need a mobile center though. Chandler next to Davis would push you guys top 5 IMO, assuming Davis is healthy.

gaspar · Post #1435 » by **gaspar** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:52 am

Here's the most exciting trade idea you'll see this week:

Archie Goodwin for Richaun Holmes.

BOOM!

MathiasPW · Post #1436 » by **MathiasPW** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:48 pm

bwgood77 wrote:How about this trade from Trade forum?

Warriors trade Barnes S&T and Kevon Looney for PJ Tucker, Quincy Pondexter, Toney Douglas and Alexis Ajinca
Pelicans trade Pondexter, Ajinca, Douglas, Tyreke Evans and 2017 first round pick for Barnes and Brandon Knight
Suns trade Tucker and Knight for Evans, Looney, and Pelicans' 2017 first round pick

Trades that envolve so many players are just too unlikely. Teams avoid too much roster turnover.

The IT and Goran Trades in 2015 were taken as "the most hectic trade deadline of all time" (although it included other deals) and involved 6 players total, IIRC

Post #1437 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:39 pm

MathiasPW wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:How about this trade from Trade forum?

Warriors trade Barnes S&T and Kevon Looney for PJ Tucker, Quincy Pondexter, Toney Douglas and Alexis Ajinca
Pelicans trade Pondexter, Ajinca, Douglas, Tyreke Evans and 2017 first round pick for Barnes and Brandon Knight
Suns trade Tucker and Knight for Evans, Looney, and Pelicans' 2017 first round pick

Trades that envolve so many players are just too unlikely. Teams avoid too much roster turnover.

The IT and Goran Trades in 2015 were taken as "the most hectic trade deadline of all time" (although it included other deals) and involved 6 players total, IIRC

The question is would you do it. Not whether it is realistic.

Post #1438 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:47 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Evans? Wow I can't believe people would really want him. No

You a Knight fan then? Tyreke has been better than Knight pretty much every year in the league. Better passer, ast/to ratio, rebounding, bigger. If he's healthy he is better. Much rather have than Barnes.

Fo-Real · Post #1439 » by **Fo-Real** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:15 pm

Tyreke has gotten worse since his rookie year, does not fit anywhere.

nevetsov · Post #1440 » by **nevetsov** » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:19 pm

I actually think Knight and Tyreke would make an interesting backcourt duo. Reke is a bit like the SG embodiment of Bledsoe.

Edit:

Suns trade Brandon Knight, receive #8

Pelicans trade Jrue Holiday+, receive Brandon Knight

Kings trade #8, receive Jrue Holiday+

Not sure what the + would have to be as the Pels don't have much else. Ryan Anderson maybe?