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Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1441 » by Revived » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:18 am

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Revived wrote:Are there any backup PGs in the NBA who are like ready to break out if given a starting role?

Only one I can think of is maybe Tyus Jones and even that's iffy.


Rozier
Dinwiddie
McConnell

Rozier has been looking like a Marcus Smart/Tony Allen esque player aka all defense and nothing else so not sure I like him too much.

Dinwiddie is a guy that's been bouncing around the league and has finally had two good games this year...not sure bout him.

I like McConnell. He's a better version of Kendall Marshall and we can use that type of playmaking here.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1442 » by NavLDO » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:46 am

bigfoot wrote:All this crying for an elite point guard to put next to Booker is crazy. We need three really good players ... Booker and Jackson look to be two of the three. The third could come from Bender, Chriss, our picks next year, or a free agent signing. What people need to realize is neither Jordan or Kobe had an elite point guard next to them. What we need is a point guard who was willing to play defense, hit a three reliably, and at times could help run the offense. Booker and Jackson will initiate a lot of the offense so I would not expect to get a PG that is going to dish 10+ assists per game.

Booker has already upped his assist output and that will get even better as he learns to handle double teams. Really one of James and/or Ulis look to be an decent candidates right now and seem to be happy with the opportunity they are getting. The secondary fact that we have Brandon Knight in the fold as a possible PG further eliminates the requirement of obtaining a PG in the Bledsoe trade. We will be unable to dump Knight so get used to thinking about how he fits into the equation next year.

Ideally people should consider an option at C with both Chandler and Len on short term contracts and only Williams in the hopper. The C needs to be in the mold of a younger Tyson Chandler, shot blocker, rebounder, and great in the pick-n-roll / diving to the basket / lob fest. Len still has hands-of-stone and I am not sold on him. His two point percentage is suspect and he really needs to get his true shooting percentage closer to .700. Old man Tyson is still a better player than Len at this current stage in the game. Len is a great backup C but I don't see him as a long term starter.


Not even close, IMO. Offensively, maybe...at times, but Defensively, Len all day. Plus, when given 25+ minutes starting, Len is a completely different player...he's engaged.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1443 » by Fo-Real » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:08 am

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Revived wrote:Are there any backup PGs in the NBA who are like ready to break out if given a starting role?

Only one I can think of is maybe Tyus Jones and even that's iffy.


Maybe Terry Rozier


Boston really likes that dude though.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1444 » by bigfoot » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:54 am

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bigfoot wrote:All this crying for an elite point guard to put next to Booker is crazy. We need three really good players ... Booker and Jackson look to be two of the three. The third could come from Bender, Chriss, our picks next year, or a free agent signing. What people need to realize is neither Jordan or Kobe had an elite point guard next to them. What we need is a point guard who was willing to play defense, hit a three reliably, and at times could help run the offense. Booker and Jackson will initiate a lot of the offense so I would not expect to get a PG that is going to dish 10+ assists per game.

Booker has already upped his assist output and that will get even better as he learns to handle double teams. Really one of James and/or Ulis look to be an decent candidates right now and seem to be happy with the opportunity they are getting. The secondary fact that we have Brandon Knight in the fold as a possible PG further eliminates the requirement of obtaining a PG in the Bledsoe trade. We will be unable to dump Knight so get used to thinking about how he fits into the equation next year.

Ideally people should consider an option at C with both Chandler and Len on short term contracts and only Williams in the hopper. The C needs to be in the mold of a younger Tyson Chandler, shot blocker, rebounder, and great in the pick-n-roll / diving to the basket / lob fest. Len still has hands-of-stone and I am not sold on him. His two point percentage is suspect and he really needs to get his true shooting percentage closer to .700. Old man Tyson is still a better player than Len at this current stage in the game. Len is a great backup C but I don't see him as a long term starter.


Not even close, IMO. Offensively, maybe...at times, but Defensively, Len all day. Plus, when given 25+ minutes starting, Len is a completely different player...he's engaged.


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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1445 » by gaspar » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:51 pm

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Post#1446 » by Bogyo » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:45 pm

Don't tell me you'd not give the Memphis or Toronto 2nd rounder to give him a try

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/247909/76ers-Pick-Up-Rookie-Scale-Options-On-Everyone-But-Jahlil-Okafor

Or a Bledsoe trade? Bled for TJ+Okafor+2019 lottery protected?
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Post#1447 » by JJ13 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:45 pm

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Post#1448 » by Bogyo » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:50 pm

JJ13 wrote:https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/925402202734321664


Is this guy credible? I'd take the Bucks trade of Delly, Monroe + pick before Mudiay and pick. I think.

*edit: depending on other players, becouse what he says doesn't work in the trade machine. We'd have to send out salary to the Bucks, and recieve other stuff from the Nuggets.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1449 » by Jarlaxle0204 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:57 pm

The Denver pick has a much better chance of being better than the Milwaukee pick in my opinion. Denver still not assured a playoff spot.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1450 » by LukasBMW » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:04 pm

Jarlaxle0204 wrote:The Denver pick has a much better chance of being better than the Milwaukee pick in my opinion. Denver still not assured a playoff spot.


Yeah Denver could still crash and burn. I'd want that pick, but I'd want it with light protections.

Mudiay and a 2018 #1 (top 3 protected)

or

Murrary and a 2018 #1 pick (lottery protected).
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Post#1451 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:04 pm

Bogyo wrote:
JJ13 wrote:https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/925402202734321664


Is this guy credible? I'd take the Bucks trade of Delly, Monroe + pick before Mudiay and pick. I think.

*edit: depending on other players, becouse what he says doesn't work in the trade machine. We'd have to send out salary to the Bucks, and recieve other stuff from the Nuggets.

Its probably being leaked by McD out of frustration and to help build his case that it was sarvers fault once he's looking for a new job this summer.

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1452 » by LukasBMW » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:07 pm

Bogyo wrote:Don't tell me you'd not give the Memphis or Toronto 2nd rounder to give him a try

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/247909/76ers-Pick-Up-Rookie-Scale-Options-On-Everyone-But-Jahlil-Okafor

Or a Bledsoe trade? Bled for TJ+Okafor+2019 lottery protected?


Thing is Okafor put up sick numbers as a rookie before he got hurt. Like ROY numbers.

26/7
24/3
21/6
19/5
21/15
26/7
21/12
19/11
25/12

All in his first month!!! Whoever can properly utilize him will be happy IF...IF he has the right attitude.
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Post#1453 » by NTB » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:16 pm

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1454 » by matt131 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:23 pm

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Dang imagine adding a defensive minded, pass first, high-percentage-shooting PG to that group.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1455 » by Son of Ra » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:28 pm

NTB wrote:
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Was it taken down? Says page doesn't exist if I click the link.
What does/did it say and by who? Thanks!
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1456 » by matt131 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:29 pm

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NTB wrote:
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Was it taken down? Says page doesn't exist if I click the link.
What does/did it say and by who? Thanks!


"They have only played 13 minutes together, but lineups featuring Booker, Jackson, Bender, and Len has a team-best defensive rating of 61."

— Evan Sidery (@esidery) October 31, 2017

Don't know why it was taken down. Maybe it was incorrect? I dunno
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1457 » by Jarlaxle0204 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:35 pm

Shocking that our 3 best defenders (Bender, Jackson, and Len) playing together would lead to our best defensive rating.

This is basically the starting lineup that I've been advocating for.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1458 » by Shank » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:02 pm

JJ13 wrote:https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/925402202734321664


Emmanuel Moodly any good?
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1459 » by Bogyo » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:28 pm

LukasBMW wrote:
Bogyo wrote:Don't tell me you'd not give the Memphis or Toronto 2nd rounder to give him a try

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/247909/76ers-Pick-Up-Rookie-Scale-Options-On-Everyone-But-Jahlil-Okafor

Or a Bledsoe trade? Bled for TJ+Okafor+2019 lottery protected?


Thing is Okafor put up sick numbers as a rookie before he got hurt. Like ROY numbers.

26/7
24/3
21/6
19/5
21/15
26/7
21/12
19/11
25/12

All in his first month!!! Whoever can properly utilize him will be happy IF...IF he has the right attitude.


Well, we seem to have a coach - which helps. Plus the young fella has been in the doghouse long enough that he might have come to his senses. If not, don't offer him an extension after next year. Not the best option I know, but might have the most upside, as TJ is very solid, Okafor could be a beast, and Philly always has an injury chance lately, which could mean a pretty OK pick next year.
If other offers were that solid McD would have pulled the trigger by now.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#1460 » by Book1Nation » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:39 pm

I'd be cool with Okafor. He is basically the opposite of Alex Len, so it would give us 2 different types of centers to throw out there where he is more offensive minded and Len can focus on defense and rebounding.

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