2019 season speculation including trade ideas

[Dual]

I really dont know if I will wake up at 4am for this one...

[spanishninja]

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yeah, what the hell is happening? 2 games last week and now we're getting injured? Does Sarver have money on the Kings tonight?

[hollywood6964]

****. Looks like we're screwed tonight too.

[lilfishi22]

Kings on a bit of a roll right now winning 5 of 7 and if Baynes doesn't play, I think we're done. It'll be back to 2016-2019 Suns again and it's going to be ugly

[DRK]

Damn. Bookers gonna have to score 100

[Blonde]

It feels like the era of waiting for a “disgruntled star” and trading all your picks for them is over. With parity around the league it seems like everyone is willing to try to win with their current team. Seriously, I can’t come up with a candidate (not talking Love/Blake here). Lillard and Beal probably aren’t options anymore with their new contracts. Ben Simmons is catching a lot of heat in Philly but he just locked up a deal too (and you could never put him on a court with Rubio).

To be frank I think James Jones is extremely unlikely to make any big moves, even if the opportunity arises. He’ll play the patience game and maybe it pays off maybe it doesn’t. In the end, the only thing that matters is having difference makers on your team and we’ve for sure got 1, probably 2 longterm difference makers. Gotta get a third for them to compete at the highest level.

[Ghost of Kleine]

There are a few quality Big men still apparently unsigned to choose from that might help cover our lack of rebounding and rim protection, For situations wherein we are without Baynes due to either injury or fouls. And might help maintain our defensive toughness and rebounding a lot better than what Kaminsky or Saric have shown. And should theoretically be able to fill in temporarily on the cheap, due to being unsigned currently. Heres a few names I've come across that might garner interest with respect to our frontcourt issues.

- Marrese Speights. ** Not my top choice, But a big rugged body that can bang and still hit the 3.
- Marcin Gortat. ** Still a good rebounder and post defender and overall rugged player. Will contest shots, bang hard, etc.
- Amir Johnson. ** A good rebounder and hardnosed player.
- Deyonta Davis.** Young athletic center with good defensive skills. A good rebounder and shotblocker.
- Salaj Mejri.** A 7'2 athletic shotblocker.
-Jason Smith***Athletic 4/5 that can block shots and still hit the 3 too.
-Tyler Zeller. ** Meh.....Just keep Kaminsky, not much difference honestly.
-Joakim Noah. ( If nothing else, a Big body to rebound and foul hard to help spare Baynes from fouling out as quickly).

Overall, A few of these bigs should definitely be considered more or less as big bodies to help with rebounding, defense, perhaps even rim protection and IF nothing else, they can serve the purpose of adding 5 hard fouls when necessary to help create a least a little reservation from the opposing teams players choosing to go to the rim so easily and frequently. A tough post player will discourage oppsing players from easy uncontested attempts, which is much better than the near no resistance that our frontcourt players have currently offered.

My preference would be to essentially move Kaminsky to backup 5. And add someone like either Jason Smith, Deyonta Davis, Or Marcin Gortat on a short contract ( 10 day?) Or whatever is customary until Ayton returns or whatever works best. Because at least we know that with eJason Smith, Deyonte Davis or Gortat, There will be strong rebounding and tough contested shots in the post, And a decentbamount of rim protection. No more easy scores for opposing teams. Which would help out Baynes a lot in Aytons' absence.
Finally is the obvious added bonus of the bigs wearing down the opposing teams players with their tough and rugged interior play. Allowing our players to get into rythym and secure better shot selection post fatigue ( opposing teams having to fight hard in the post).

[Blonde]

^I actually like Joakim Noah for this team and was hoping we’d sign him when the Ayton news came out.

[Jsbath]

What do you think about these possible trades?

Aaron Gordon x Tyler jhonson+ saric+ second round pick

Markaanen x Saric+ diallo +second round pick

[Ghost of Kleine]

^I actually like Joakim Noah for this team and was hoping we’d sign him when the Ayton news came out.

The irony is that the strategy behind both Saric and Kaminsky being effective is obviously highly dependent upon us having a dominant post presence ( Ayton). But without him, There's just no post gravity. And whilst Saric has been decent,
He's still fairly inconsistent. add the issue of Kaminsky being as tough as wet tissue paper, and too timid to take the outside shot when it counts, And we're now primed for a string of losses. Now defenses can collapse on us more easily, Thanks to both of their weak post play. So we have to compensate somewhere. And with poor defense and close to no decent rebounding, Our fates will be sealed.

So what we need is to address the current defensive and rebounding issues to give us a better chance at actually competing and possibly winning some games in Aytons' absence. We need to secure as many wins as possible early on. As we need all the cushion we can get as wins are harder to come by ss the season draws to a close and we don't know if injuries will bite us. So the most critical defensive can be resolved by adding( temporarily) an athletic big man to rebound, defend and bang in the post to take some of the pressure off of Baynes.

Any of Smith, Gortat, Davis, or Mejri would help us immensely. We've done it before for injuries. Ayton being out should carry the same consideration honestly.

[Ghost of Kleine]

What do you think about these possible trades?

Aaron Gordon x Tyler jhonson+ saric+ second round pick

Markaanen x Saric+ diallo +second round pick

At this point, I'd do either of those happily man.

Markkanen would be an absolute steal for us with that package honestly. For him though( due to his value, we'd likely have to add Bridges and two firsts). But even then, I'd think about it pretty hard.

And for Gordon, We could probably swing something close to that by adding a first. Especially IF they were to flame out and miss the playoffs.

Overall I'd prefer Markannen more for his star potential. And would go as far as to offer:

Tyler Johnson ( expiring), Saric, Bridges( although I'd offer Oubre first if I could**) and a first round pick. And I'd be willing to take back Porter ( If necessary) to get the deal done.

[Mjee]

What do you think about these possible trades?

Aaron Gordon x Tyler jhonson+ saric+ second round pick

Markaanen x Saric+ diallo +second round pick

I'd do them both quicker than a new york minute !!!!!!!

[SunsLyf3]

What do you think about these possible trades?

Aaron Gordon x Tyler jhonson+ saric+ second round pick

Markaanen x Saric+ diallo +second round pick

Bullas hang up. Won't even let you finish. "Mar. . ." *dial tone*.

The Gordon one is doable given the growth of some of their youngins. They're going to be due for extensions. I'd try to get DJ Augustine and Gordon for say TJo, Saric, Okobo and a 2nd. We get another vet with playoff exoerience behind Rubio incase Jerome hits a wall and Gordon is immediate upgrade.

[Desertfox]

Gordon is probably the best likely available PF. Markaanen would be great if we didn't have to give up Bridges (Cam Johnson perhaps?).

But last night we really could have used an Alan "Big Sauce" Williams... I don't know why we didn't pick him up. He's not Ayton, but he is as close a style of play as you can find and was a very reliable rebounder and scorer and a big man under the basket.

[bwgood77]

According to this model, Baynes and Booker solid on the offensive side, and Booker moving up from where he used to be on the defensive side. Can't really see anyone else.

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[ImNotMcDiSwear]

According to this model, Baynes and Booker solid on the offensive side, and Booker moving up from where he used to be on the defensive side. Can't really see anyone else.

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Does seeing Bogdan right next to Booker make anyone else's eyes water a bit?

Had we stupidly passed on Booker in 2015, might we have kept Bogdan? Might we have drafted Jamal Murray in 2016, and Luka in 2018????

*takeadrinkdontthinkaboutit*

[Desertfox]

The Bogdan trade for Chriss and Jackson over Isaac are the two draft decisions I hated about the McD era. Len was decent in a terrible draft class and Bender was the sort of gamble you have to take at times. But doubling down on a gamble with Chriss while giving up Bogdan was mind-boggling and Jackson just had so many red flags.

[Bogyo]

The Bogdan trade for Chriss and Jackson over Isaac are the two draft decisions I hated about the McD era. Len was decent in a terrible draft class and Bender was the sort of gamble you have to take at times. But doubling down on a gamble with Chriss while giving up Bogdan was mind-boggling and Jackson just had so many red flags.

Speaking of red flags, I've just stumbled across a headline which said that Jackson was somehow involved at the Malice at the Palace, which I found fairly funny, considering that he was about toddler back then, and then everything else that came up with him (arrest, etc...) since.

[Revived]

The Bogdan trade for Chriss and Jackson over Isaac are the two draft decisions I hated about the McD era. Len was decent in a terrible draft class and Bender was the sort of gamble you have to take at times. But doubling down on a gamble with Chriss while giving up Bogdan was mind-boggling and Jackson just had so many red flags.

Speaking of red flags, I've just stumbled across a headline which said that Jackson was somehow involved at the Malice at the Palace, which I found fairly funny, considering that he was about toddler back then, and then everything else that came up with him (arrest, etc...) since.

Lol you made me curious and I just searched and found the article. He was not only involved but he threw a water bottle on the court as well. He was 8 years old at the time.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2802562-josh-jackson-i-threw-a-water-bottle-at-pacers-during-the-malice-at-the-palace

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