The One And Only Offseason Thread!

thamadkant · Post #1461 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:56 am

I think once Lebron announces his move...

Bledsoe maybe sign and trade with;

- Kings: For Rudy Gay, who is expiring after next season + future pick.

- Bucks: For Henson + Ilyasova + pick, perhaps another trade will happen with Morris brothers heading out if this happens, or one of them.

- Pistons: For Monroe + Jennings

- Cavs: Irving (Maybe Lebron request hehe)

I just don't see McD and Babby having 27-30 million dollars on two natural PGs, when they just drafted 1 in Ennis and both Goodwin and Bogdanovic can play make as SGs.

NTB · Post #1462 » by **NTB** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:00 am

Jennings - Dragic? No thanks.

I liked Kings and Bucks scenario though.

Revived · Post #1463 » by **Revived** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:05 am

gaspar wrote:
Saberestar wrote:We have another good option to replace Frye if Houston signs Bosch.

Terrence Jones. Great defender and he is a good shooter, not great but he can improve. He is really young and Houston can need to make room for Bosch and Parsons, so he and Montjunas can be available in the next few days.

You should ask LMA what he thinks about Jones' defense.

That's like saying ask LeBron if Kawhi is a good defender after last years finals.

BurningHeart · Post #1464 » by **BurningHeart** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:07 am

1UPZ wrote:

I just don't see McD and Babby having 27-30 million dollars on two natural PGs, when they just drafted 1 in Ennis and both Goodwin and Bogdanovic can play make as SGs.

The name of the game is versatility. You have those five players who can all do similar things? Okay great. Send them. Wave after wave after wave on the court. Relentless.

You *do* need guard depth, you know.

NaturalBuns · Post #1465 » by **NaturalBuns** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:08 am

McD has said since day one he will match anything.
Even after the injury so Bledsoe is probably a longterm sun.

Nothing about him has came out because he has the same agent as lebron
And lebron has been dead silent as well probably how that agent works

sunsbum · Post #1466 » by **sunsbum** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:24 am

NaturalBuns wrote:McD has said since day one he will match anything.
Even after the injury so Bledsoe is probably a longterm sun.

Nothing about him has came out because he has the same agent as lebron
And lebron has been dead silent as well probably how that agent works

That doesnt mean hes a long term sun. It means hes an asset.

NaturalBuns · Post #1467 » by **NaturalBuns** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:27 am

sunsbum wrote:
NaturalBuns wrote:McD has said since day one he will match anything.
Even after the injury so Bledsoe is probably a longterm sun.

Nothing about him has came out because he has the same agent as lebron
And lebron has been dead silent as well probably how that agent works

That doesnt mean hes a long term sun. It means hes an asset.

Once you give him a max he will basically be impossible to trade till at least his expiring year.
That's not a negative thing that's just how it works when your restricted

Post #1468 » by **Qwigglez** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:35 am

1UPZ wrote:I think once Lebron announces his move...

Bledsoe maybe sign and trade with;

- Cavs: Irving (Maybe Lebron request hehe)

I just don't see McD and Babby having 27-30 million dollars on two natural PGs, when they just drafted 1 in Ennis and both Goodwin and Bogdanovic can play make as SGs.

I'd rather Lebron request Wiggins for Bledsoe.
I would be sooooo happy.

Saberestar · Post #1469 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:20 am

gaspar wrote:
Saberestar wrote:We have another good option to replace Frye if Houston signs Bosch.

Terrence Jones. Great defender and he is a good shooter, not great but he can improve. He is really young and Houston can need to make room for Bosch and Parsons, so he and Montjunas can be available in the next few days.

You should ask LMA what he thinks about Jones' defense.

He lacks expirience and LMA is one of the best players right now in the league. Dirk played a tremendous WCF some years ago against Ibaka,and I think Ibaka is an amazing defender.
T. Jones is very long, plays hard and is very good defending the perimeter. He is agile enough to recover and protect the paint too and he has room to improve even more.
He is not a player that I love,but is a decent option with upside.

thamadkant · Post #1470 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:00 am

If Len and Plumlee split the center minutes at 24 a piece.. I'm fine with. They will improve quicker this way.

I am also not so fuzzy with Markieff Morris as starting PF, I think he will put up 15/7 there. I'm sure he is working on his 3pt range, but most importantly I want him to work on his back to the basket game too... Inside and out would make him a very handy PF.

The biggest hole is the SF... Assuming Tucker isn't resigned.
And with Warren being drafted with praise on his "defense" and his ability to score, I won't be surprise if they give Warren minutes next season. I think the FO may decide only one of Tucker or Green to keep... My direction there is whomever can fetch the best assets (if they choose to trade).

The one problem of having 5 drafted players in the last 2 first rounds is having the minutes to progress their development. You can't just stash them on the bench wasting their youth and not develop them.... d-league is fine, but they need to practice and learn from the Suns coaching and players.

Next season the Suns have another potential 3 first rounders...
That would make it 8 players with 2 and less season experience.... Sure they can trade... But it's not as as easy to pass when your scouts find potential talents.

I think Suns need to make a big decision on Tucker/Green and decide on Bledsoe.
It's my thinking anyways, I'm not really sure what McD wants to do next season... 9th seed with a maxed Bledsoe and Dragic due for another is not an ideal "championship" foundation.

King4Day · Post #1471 » by **King4Day** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:15 pm

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It pisses me off that Charlotte isn't smart enough to reneg the offer sheet. They will likely miss any chance with Deng or Ariza now. They probably still have a crack at Stephenson but still sucks.

Post #1472 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:15 pm

NaturalBuns wrote:
SF88 wrote:
NaturalBuns wrote:
That 5 will get out rebounded every game without tucker and the defense...

Kieff is a better rebounder than Frye and he is still developing so hopefully that make up for missing Tucker along with Plumlee learning a thing or two from year 1 and being a better rebounder this year.

Rush is about as good a defender as Tucker so we won't lose much there.

Lol rush is not even close to tucker if his price tag does become super high.
I would consider bringing back Shawn Marion with parsons going to Dallas

Well, Rush's price tag isn't going to be too high. Gaspar is more of a medical expert than I am when it comes to Rush and Bledsoe and stuff, so maybe he is too injury prone. As for "being useless" in GS last year, I don't know if that's the case as much as GS wanting to play and develop their younger guys Hayward and Burks.

I just originally mentioned Rush as maybe an under the radar guy that you could probably get for dirt cheap, he can play D, hit the 3, and maybe Hornacek could work with him.

Glad Gaspar posted his comparison to Mook, because he is clearly a better shooter from 2 and 3. http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 03&y2=2014

King4Day · Post #1473 » by **King4Day** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:17 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
1UPZ wrote:I think once Lebron announces his move...

Bledsoe maybe sign and trade with;

- Cavs: Irving (Maybe Lebron request hehe)

I just don't see McD and Babby having 27-30 million dollars on two natural PGs, when they just drafted 1 in Ennis and both Goodwin and Bogdanovic can play make as SGs.

I'd rather Lebron request Wiggins for Bledsoe.
I would be sooooo happy.

That was my hope too as unlikely as it'd be. I'd give up Bledsoe, Kieff, and Len or Plumlee if they wanted.

King4Day · Post #1474 » by **King4Day** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:18 pm

Regarding Monroe, unless he's a solid rebounder, I want no part of him. I'd rather just re-sign Kieff next year.
Getting Monroe means Kieff is 100% gone as we're not paying the max to two decent big men.

JJ13 · Post #1475 » by **JJ13** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:22 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Regarding Monroe, unless he's a solid rebounder, I want no part of him. I'd rather just re-sign Kieff next year.
Getting Monroe means Kieff is 100% gone as we're not paying the max to two decent big men.

9 RPG last year next to Drummond and Smith

Post #1476 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:23 pm

Saberestar wrote:We have another good option to replace Frye if Houston signs Bosch.

Terrence Jones. Great defender and he is a good shooter, not great but he can improve. He is really young and Houston can need to make room for Bosch and Parsons, so he and Montjunas can be available in the next few days.

Good call. I'll take him if he's available. Had a bit of the playoff jitters as his first time in the playoffs, but the playoff experience is good.

Saberestar · Post #1477 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:29 pm

In the last Bob Young's report he speaks about Goodwin and he said this sentence too...

The Suns need another weapon in their rotation, and it's looking more and more like there won't be any blockbuster offseason moves. Improvement might have to come from within.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /12443941/

Bledsoe/Ennis/Ish
Dragic/Green/Goodwin
P.J./T.J.
Markieff/Marcus
Plumlee/Len

That is a12 deep team...we can add a veteran cheap FA to play some PF/C and that is all.
It is not the best offseason in the world, but we have players with upside at least.

NaturalBuns · Post #1478 » by **NaturalBuns** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:29 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Regarding Monroe, unless he's a solid rebounder, I want no part of him. I'd rather just re-sign Kieff next year.
Getting Monroe means Kieff is 100% gone as we're not paying the max to two decent big men.

Monroe would be the center.
And hes a good rebounder.

Post #1479 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:34 pm

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SSOL · Post #1480 » by **SSOL** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:41 pm

JJ13 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:Regarding Monroe, unless he's a solid rebounder, I want no part of him. I'd rather just re-sign Kieff next year.
Getting Monroe means Kieff is 100% gone as we're not paying the max to two decent big men.

9 RPG last year next to Drummond and Smith

Monroe is a five, Kieff is not.