2016 Draft Thread Part 4

[SkinnyOMiller]

Gambo mentioned that the Suns are interested in moving up for 13 to take Sabonis or Chriss or Bender if they drop. I'd be psyched if McDonough could pull that off, walking out with BOTH Chriss and Bender or one of them + Sabonis. Nice.

[JMac1]

Bledsoe for Ibaka.

Knight
Booker
Barnes
Ibaka
Tyson

Sign me up.

Its okay, but not enough shooting. Mine is better

[saintEscaton]

What kind of package?

I don't know what they want...probably Knight taking that Waiters/Foye role?

Knight + #13 for Ibaka?

Chandler and #13 for Ibaka ?

Knight+13=No. Chandler+13= sign me up.

Dion Waiters> Knightmare

[JMac1]

They weren't good to begin with, now you say they are worse??? Ooof...I'm in trouble...

I got And 1'd five times At least some people don't get caught up in the semantics game.

I guess you didn't get my joke there...

I missed it. My bad.

[Saberestar]

Bledsoe for Ibaka.

Knight
Booker
Barnes
Ibaka
Tyson

Sign me up.

Knight like our starting PG?!

I am OK with him running PG some minutes coming from the bench, but not more than that.

[saintEscaton]

Ibaka is gunna get exposed if featured here. He is barely a third option on a contender. Still an elite help defender, but his blocks numbers plummeted, OKC's perimeter D was porous and funneled opponents into the paint he had to contest everything

[JMac1]

What if? Philly is trying to set Boston up o take Dunn because they knew they were **** and would try to strong-arm them for number #3, so they let it leaked they wanted Dunn and all the while the plan is Murray and trading Okafor for the number 4. Think about it, Dunn is ball dominant and having the ball in his hands in Simmons strength, which Murray would complement well. Right?

[Gorilla Warfare]

Knight as our PG would make me very sad. I'd rather have Ronnie Price run point than Knight.

[NavLDO]

Quick someone, who is our most prized player and how much defense does he play? SMH.... This "he has to play defense" mantra is tired and old. No to Okafor because he plays no defense, well if he did, he'd be Tim Duncan and untradeable.

I'm on board with you with the Okafor trade, for sure; I think he's better than anything that will be available for us at 4.

I much prefer Chriss's upside to Okafor's fat ass.

You'd prefer potentially the 4th best prospect in a weak class over the 3rd overall pick in a strong class--one that went for what, 10-11 dbl-dbls IN the NBA, and is still only 20? At least we know Okafor can play in this league, even if he has a weakness or two; we have no idea if/when Chriss will be good enough to play.

I'm a fan of Chriss @ 4, but mainly because this is a weak class. It's not that I don't get where you are coming from, but there is a lot of 'uncertainty' in Chriss that you do not have in Okafor.

[8on]

Bledsoe for Ibaka.

Knight
Booker
Barnes
Ibaka
Tyson

Sign me up.

Its okay, but not enough shooting. Mine is better

i disagree. Hield and Booker is a defensive black hole. also, i don't think OKC would take Knight.....i don't think so. in fact, i don't know if we would give him up.

[OGBAH]

What if? Philly is trying to set Boston up o take Dunn because they knew they were **** and would try to strong-arm them for number #3, so they let it leaked they wanted Dunn and all the while the plan is Murray and trading Okafor for the number 4. Think about it, Dunn is ball dominant and having the ball in his hands in Simmons strength, which Murray would complement well. Right?

[8on]

Ibaka is gunna get exposed if featured here. He is barely a third option on a contender

ridiculous. as a shot blocker alone, never mind his ability to stretch the floor and ability as a roll man, he's one of the best role players in the league. he could be more than that if we asked him to be.

[NavLDO]

I got And 1'd five times At least some people don't get caught up in the semantics game.

I guess you didn't get my joke there...

I missed it. My bad.

I was talking about my poor "reading comprehension" skills--I guess I could have made it clearer...

[saintEscaton]

I'm on board with you with the Okafor trade, for sure; I think he's better than anything that will be available for us at 4.

I much prefer Chriss's upside to Okafor's fat ass.

You'd prefer potentially the 4th best prospect in a weak class over the 3rd overall pick in a strong class--one that went for what, 10-11 dbl-dbls IN the NBA, and is still only 20? At least we know Okafor can play in this league, even if he has a weakness or two; we have no idea if/when Chriss will be good enough to play.

I'm a fan of Chriss @ 4, but mainly because this is a weak class. It's not that I don't get where you are coming from, but there is a lot of 'uncertainty' in Chriss that you do not have in Okafor.

You are gunna eat you words when Oak tears it up on a competitive team

[Gorilla Warfare]

What if? Philly is trying to set Boston up o take Dunn because they knew they were **** and would try to strong-arm them for number #3, so they let it leaked they wanted Dunn and all the while the plan is Murray and trading Okafor for the number 4. Think about it, Dunn is ball dominant and having the ball in his hands in Simmons strength, which Murray would complement well. Right?

Classic Colangelo smokescreen.

[saintEscaton]

Ibaka is gunna get exposed if featured here. He is barely a third option on a contender

ridiculous. as a shot blocker alone, never mind his ability to stretch the floor and ability as a roll man, he's one of the best role players in the league. he could be more than that if we asked him to be.

Still an elite help defender, but his blocks numbers plummeted to career lows, Adams was a superior rim protector who stayed home and anchored. OKC's perimeter D was porous and there plan was to funnel opponents into the paint so Adams had to contest everything, whereas Ibaka held opponents to a lower FG% within but on less defensed attempts. When he stepped out he was less effective altering shots because he couldn't cheat over as much

[8on]

Ibaka is gunna get exposed if featured here. He is barely a third option on a contender

ridiculous. as a shot blocker alone, never mind his ability to stretch the floor and ability as a roll man, he's one of the best role players in the league. he could be more than that if we asked him to be.

Still an elite help defender, but his blocks numbers plummeted to career lows, Adams was a superior rim protector OKC's perimeter D was porous and funneled opponents into the paint he had to contest everything

intentionally a different strategy from OKC. Ibaka converted to a stretch 4, Adams became hustle man underneath the rim, Ibaka's role was no longer to block shots.

there's a quote somewhere, but i'm pretty sure it was on TV during the 2nd round

[Saberestar]

Hearing strong rumblings that Raptors GM Masai Ujiriin on Kentucky's Skal Labissiere at No. 9 if none of top 8 players in the draft fall.

https://mobile.twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/746079718986944513

[JMac1]

Bledsoe for Ibaka.

Knight
Booker
Barnes
Ibaka
Tyson

Sign me up.

Its okay, but not enough shooting. Mine is better

i disagree. Hield and Booker is a defensive black hole. also, i don't think OKC would take Knight.....i don't think so. in fact, i don't know if we would give him up.

You know you have to score, right?

[WeekapaugGroove]

Ibaka is gunna get exposed if featured here. He is barely a third option on a contender. Still an elite help defender, but his blocks numbers plummeted, OKC's perimeter D was porous and funneled opponents into the paint he had to contest everything

I also think there's a chance ibaka is actually in his 30s. Would explain his apparent decline in athleticism the last year or so.