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Re: Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1481 » by RunDogGun » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:41 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:yeah he certainly is saying all the right things. I scoff a bit at bringing players in as "leaders" because isn't that what coaches are for but maybe I need to change my thinking on that.


Yes and no. Coaches can only do so much during practice and on the bench. Sometimes you need a locker room and on-court general. It's like when you were in school. The teachers and pricipal were authority figures, they told you what to do, but you didn't necessarily always listen. If a respected classmate or friend told you the same thing, you'd be more likely to listen. In a basketball environment, if a guy can go out and back up what they preach it means more than a coach that's been away from the game for a while and younger guys might think they're "out of touch". It's different with other coaches, obviously. Every player, young or old, would respect what Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich or Pat Riley told them. On the other hand, a younger coach with less success (i.e. Hornacek), not so much. I think Tyson is a great bridge between the coaching staff and the young team.


I don't think sometimes. I think it is a requirement ot have a locker room and on court general to keep the young ones in line. You think Duncan or KG take crap or allow nonsense to happen in the locker room. No way. These young guys that come into winning situations are put in their place real quick by veterans who have accomplished something.

No veteran leadership for the Kings ... lose lose lose
Took years for ZBo to pull his head out of his azz and moved to three different teams ... finally winning


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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1482 » by NTB » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:42 pm

I remember that i said Teletovic would be nice 2 weeks ago. 8-)
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1483 » by TeamTragic » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:42 pm

NTB wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/619259536159981568[/tweet]


**** awesome signing.....WHAT? :o
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1484 » by RunDogGun » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:45 pm

NTB wrote:I remember that i said Teletovic would be nice 2 weeks ago. 8-)

Good call.
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1485 » by NTB » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:46 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
NTB wrote:I remember that i said Teletovic would be nice 2 weeks ago. 8-)

Good call.


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Btw it was 1 week ago not 2 sorry.
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1486 » by JMac1 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:46 pm

bigfoot wrote:Wow ... maybe Len and Chandler can play on the floor at the same time

http://www.nba.com/suns/blog/suns-retorter-alex-len-stretch-5


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Post#1487 » by NTB » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:47 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/619260550900510720[/tweet]
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Re: Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1488 » by bigfoot » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:47 pm

bigfoot wrote:
ShawnBronald wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:yeah he certainly is saying all the right things. I scoff a bit at bringing players in as "leaders" because isn't that what coaches are for but maybe I need to change my thinking on that.


Yes and no. Coaches can only do so much during practice and on the bench. Sometimes you need a locker room and on-court general. It's like when you were in school. The teachers and pricipal were authority figures, they told you what to do, but you didn't necessarily always listen. If a respected classmate or friend told you the same thing, you'd be more likely to listen. In a basketball environment, if a guy can go out and back up what they preach it means more than a coach that's been away from the game for a while and younger guys might think they're "out of touch". It's different with other coaches, obviously. Every player, young or old, would respect what Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich or Pat Riley told them. On the other hand, a younger coach with less success (i.e. Hornacek), not so much. I think Tyson is a great bridge between the coaching staff and the young team.


I don't think sometimes. I think it is a requirement ot have a locker room and on court general to keep the young ones in line. You think Duncan or KG take crap or allow nonsense to happen in the locker room. No way. These young guys that come into winning situations are put in their place real quick by veterans who have accomplished something.

No veteran leadership for the Kings ... lose lose lose
Took years for ZBo to pull his head out of his azz and moved to three different teams ... finally winning


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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1489 » by Saberestar » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:47 pm

I have seen the press conference and my first reaction is that Hornaceck looks really really happy with this addition.

Chandler said all good things, he loves to mentor young guys and he spoke about Len two or three times, he thinks Alex has a great future and Hornacek said that the two can play together at times depending on match ups.
No word about mentoring or helping Markieff.

Chandler said that he will make the life easier for Knight and Bledsoe in the pick-and-rolls and he will benefit too.

Another interesting thing...McDonough said ,somehow ,that we are gonna spend all the money that we have and we will go over the cap, we want to add one or two players to the roster. He wants at least 13 good players, of quality our roster. Watch out.
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1490 » by Saberestar » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:48 pm

Wowww.... Teletovic. I don't know if he is healthy enough...we will see.
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1491 » by Safety Pickle » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:48 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/619259536159981568[/tweet]

We're capped out now, right?
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1492 » by bigfoot » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:52 pm

Safety Pickle wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/619259536159981568[/tweet]

We're capped out now, right?


Still have Dragic trade exception
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1493 » by Saberestar » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:54 pm

I think Sonny Weems is an overall better player than Teletovic but he will earn near the double money.
I thought that Teletovic would play in Europe next year...hopefully he is healthy, our medical staff is the best in the business.
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1494 » by saintEscaton » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:57 pm

Well I don't think there's anybody left on the market thats worth going over the cap for. We won't be going into the luxury tax thats for sure so I guess we could use either the trade exception we got for Dragic or MLE thats around 6 mill. Both are at our disposal
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1495 » by bigfoot » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:58 pm

Bledsoe / Price / McNeal
Knight / Weems / Goodwin / Booker
Tucker / Warren
Kief / Teletovic / Leuer
Chandler / Len

That's our current roster of fourteen players ... McNeal might be waived. One or two spots left for the summer team to compete for.
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Post#1496 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:58 pm

Teletovic is a good stretch 4 signing. Actually wish it was a 2 or 3 year deal but I'm sure he wanted to do the 1 year deal and try to prove he's healthy and cash in next summer.
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1497 » by JMac1 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:58 pm

rsavaj wrote:This new thing where Alex Len is draining threes is kind of awesome. Not that I want to turn him into Frye but the fact that he's added that weapon to his arsenal is kind of amazing. He has the potential to be a true inside-outside threat.



How bout K Love or Gasol?
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1498 » by MrTwister » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:01 pm

Saberestar wrote:I think Sonny Weems is an overall better player than Teletovic but he will earn near the double money.
I thought that Teletovic would play in Europe next year...hopefully he is healthy, our medical staff is the best in the business.

Mirza already recovered from blood clots which sidelined him until playoffs.He was having trouble staying on court because of that hence poor shooting in last year.He can basically be your replacement Frye.Stretch 4's in today NBA are hot commodity, most of them got 8+ per year but being RFA hurt his stock, so i guess 5.5 for him is good deal for both sides.
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1499 » by JMac1 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:03 pm

NTB wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
NTB wrote:I remember that i said Teletovic would be nice 2 weeks ago. 8-)

Good call.


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Btw it was 1 week ago not 2 sorry.


Now if I was to do something like that, I'd get crucified on this board.

No problem with your post though, just pointing it out.
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#1500 » by ShawnBronald » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:04 pm

Grots wrote:Getting Teletovic would be nice.


Good call on this one. :wink:

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