2016 Draft Thread Part 4

[JMac1]

I guess you didn't get my joke there...

I missed it. My bad.

I was talking about my poor "reading comprehension" skills--I guess I could have made it clearer...

Now I got it.

It's all in the delivery my man.

[8on]

Its okay, but not enough shooting. Mine is better

i disagree. Hield and Booker is a defensive black hole. also, i don't think OKC would take Knight.....i don't think so. in fact, i don't know if we would give him up.

You know you have to score, right?

so do our opponents, and they would have no trouble scoring if your proposal went through. none at all.

last time, we didn't have defense. if we didn't learn that lesson, we have no business making the playoffs. fortunately, i know McD cares about defense. that's why Hield won't be on the team in 24 hours.

[JMac1]

What if? Philly is trying to set Boston up o take Dunn because they knew they were **** and would try to strong-arm them for number #3, so they let it leaked they wanted Dunn and all the while the plan is Murray and trading Okafor for the number 4. Think about it, Dunn is ball dominant and having the ball in his hands in Simmons strength, which Murray would complement well. Right?

Classic Colangelo smokescreen.

And its reported that they are talking to the Minny and Sac.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/746076858370899968[/tweet]

[8on]

but, JMac1, how do you get Ibaka? what's your trade? i didn't see that.

[JMac1]

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Why if Boston is drafting the guy they want?

[8on]

What if? Philly is trying to set Boston up o take Dunn because they knew they were **** and would try to strong-arm them for number #3, so they let it leaked they wanted Dunn and all the while the plan is Murray and trading Okafor for the number 4. Think about it, Dunn is ball dominant and having the ball in his hands in Simmons strength, which Murray would complement well. Right?

Classic Colangelo smokescreen.

And its reported that they are talking to the Minny and Sac.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/746076858370899968[/tweet]

i like this, because if Boston and Philly can't come to terms, we're their next call.

[8on]

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Why if Boston is drafting the guy they want?

if they can't agree to a deal......they could still get Murray from us. or we could swap with Boston. or something.

[Phnxsports]

Classic Colangelo smokescreen.

And its reported that they are talking to the Minny and Sac.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/746076858370899968[/tweet]

i like this, because if Boston and Philly can't come to terms, we're their next call.

Unless for some reason McD has already said he isn't interested in Noel or Okafor.

[JMac1]

Classic Colangelo smokescreen.

And its reported that they are talking to the Minny and Sac.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/746076858370899968[/tweet]

i like this, because if Boston and Philly can't come to terms, we're their next call.

Yuuuuuup!

I know Mc'D is pissed about it being a forgone conclusion with this Marquese and Bender talk. So Philly thinks we are taking a PF and doesn't give us a chance, no way they let that happen. And, there are no rumors.......that's a good thing.

[sunsbum]

Hearing strong rumblings that Raptors GM Masai Ujiriin on Kentucky's Skal Labissiere at No. 9 if none of top 8 players in the draft fall.

https://mobile.twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/746079718986944513

If none of the top 8 are left then he'll take skal at 9....this tweet is incredibly stupid. No offense to you saberestar.

[NavLDO]

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Why if Boston is drafting the guy they want?

if they can't agree to a deal......they could still get Murray from us. or we could swap with Boston. or something.

If we make another "Ennis pick, thinking that will get some team to come to terms that are favorable to us, I'm going to be just a 'wee bit' upset. We knew it the second Ennis was picked that he was 'trade bait', and we got left holding the bag and got 'didlisquat' for our 18th pick.

I just REALLY hope that McD recognizes that we have a serious 'black hole' at PF, and doubles up 4 and 13.

We can win with:

Bledsoe
Booker
Warren
#4 and/or #13
Len

Why mess with a 3rd Guard rotation that can score with Bledsoe, Knight, and Booker, with Price, Goodwin, and Jenkins as filler when needed.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not pick, Murray, Dunn, or Hield, thinking some team will trade for one of them...UNLESS we have a trade in place already.

I know many of you say not to draft for need, but why not when 7 of the top 14 prospects, IMO, are PFs??

Are Hield's weaknesses any less worrisome than, say, Ellenson? How about Murray's and either Skal's or Chriss'? Are Dunn's Shooting and TO woes any less critical than Davis' or Sabonis' range or T-Rex arms, respectively?'?

There are no clear-cut, major upside/skillsets that Dunn, Murray, or Hield possess that set them apart from the PF prospects. I just do not see any of the Guards being 'transformational' talents like Simmons or Ingram--I just don't. Some of you do, and that's fair, but from my perspective, I just do not.

[aewyatt7]

Gambo just said suns trying to move Knight not Bledsoe despite the rumors. Bk doesn't want bench role so hes Odd man out. Suns really like a PG at #13 by the name of Deyante Murray(6'5" pg).

[saintEscaton]

Ibaka is gunna get exposed if featured here. He is barely a third option on a contender. Still an elite help defender, but his blocks numbers plummeted, OKC's perimeter D was porous and funneled opponents into the paint he had to contest everything

I also think there's a chance ibaka is actually in his 30s. Would explain his apparent decline in athleticism the last year or so.

Yeah he was a monster at his 2012-2013 peak, where he almost singelhandedly swayed the series in favor of OKC vs the Spurs upon returning. He was a pick n pop threat back then, but never developed a back to the basket game, never rounded out because he was asked to up his 3pt rate.and is mechanical inside the arc. He he has lost a step and was often winded taking a seat in crunchtime, he is a poor communicator and not very cerebral as a team defender. Hell Kanter did a better job defending LMA one on one in isolation. I was high on him but there is a reason OKC is actively shopping him

[Cactus Jack]

Gambo just said suns trying to move Knight not Bledsoe despite the rumors. Bk doesn't want bench role so hes Odd man out. Suns really like a PG at #13 by the name of Deyante Murray(6'5" pg).

Chriss & Murray

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Gambo just said suns trying to move Knight not Bledsoe despite the rumors. Bk doesn't want bench role so hes Odd man out. Suns really like a PG at #13 by the name of Deyante Murray(6'5" pg).

Them and me both! I been on the Dejounte bandwagon (without much company) for about three weeks now. All aboard! Toot toot!

The only question is whether ATL will take him first.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

And that's the core:

Murray-Booker-Warren-Chriss-Len

"I'm finished!" - Daniel Plainview, There Will Be Blood

[aewyatt7]

Suns like Sabonis too. Might move up to get him. Basically the lead domino is BK trade.

[Saberestar]

Gambo just said suns trying to move Knight not Bledsoe despite the rumors. Bk doesn't want bench role so hes Odd man out. Suns really like a PG at #13 by the name of Deyante Murray(6'5" pg).

Chriss & Murray

After a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE season that's our reward.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Suns like Sabonis too. Might move up to get him. Basically the lead domino is BK trade.

Would be nuts to add all three. I'd be giddy. Didn't we say we wouldn't bring in three rookies?

[Cactus Jack]

Nbadraft.net has updated their mock. Have us taking Chriss & D. Murray.