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College basketball and 2017 draft - One more poll after last game

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If we have the 1st or 2nd pick, and take Ball, how will you feel

Feel VERY good about the pick
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17%
OK with the pick
14
34%
Not particularly happy with it
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20%
Pissed
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22%
OK at 2, but at one 1 am not happy and will explain this pick in thread
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7%
 
Total votes: 41

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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1481 » by gaspar » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:24 pm

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Kerrsed wrote:I have the feeling we end up with the 5th pick. :nonono:

I really do not care. There is no clear #1 player in this draft, there is not a LeBron type of player out there waiting for us so I do not care.

People saying that is gonna be 1-4 with Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Tatum ..come on, ALWAYS in May/June everything changes before the draft.

One or probably two of those players are gonna be available at #5, every year someone goes down just before the draft. It is a science.

Actually, there is clear #1.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1482 » by TOO » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:27 pm

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sunsbum wrote:I don't want another PG like bledsoe. We have too many weapons on this team that aren't being used at maximum efficiency when bled/knight are at PG. If we don't get ball or fultz then we draft BPA.


Unless best player available is Dennis Smith, Jr?

Although I don't know if he is like Bledsoe. He scores quite a bit, but he averages the second most assists in college basketball behind Ball.

Athletically they are comparable, but i think Smith has a better feel for the game. I also think he'll be just a better offensive player in general.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1483 » by gaspar » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:30 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:This is a great poll question.

Too many spelling errors for my liking ;)
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1484 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:37 pm

gaspar wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:This is a great poll question.

Too many spelling errors for my liking ;)


Weird thing is I'm pretty sure I googled Ntilikina first, but I still missed it badly for whatever reason. I think if I tried to fix, it resets the poll though.

And Miles Bridges I haven't ever written before I don't think so my bad again there.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1485 » by gaspar » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:46 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
gaspar wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:This is a great poll question.

Too many spelling errors for my liking ;)


Weird thing is I'm pretty sure I googled Ntilikina first, but I still missed it badly for whatever reason. I think if I tried to fix, it resets the poll though.

And Miles Bridges I haven't ever written before I don't think so my bad again there.

No worries, everyone knows what you meant.

BTW, DX uploaded their scouting videos for the French Frank today:
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1486 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:54 pm

gaspar wrote:Actually, there is clear #1.

Again, I don't think it's as clear as some want to make it. You cannot deny why Fultz has done all season, but you've got some guys who are on the biggest stage in college basketball. Ball and Jackson are coming for that #1 spot.

EDIT: Jayson Tatum also had a nice showing and Lauri Markkanen has been incredibly efficient.

Not to mention workouts still have to take place. This isn't decided by any means.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1487 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:02 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Can someone come in on how prospects are doing in the tourney? Jackson, ball, and, until just now, Tatum

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Josh Jackson, forward, Kansas (6-8/203)
Do you remember the beginning of the season when Jackson's jump shot looked crooked? It seems very long ago now. Jackson led all scorers on Sunday with 23 points in Kansas' 90-70 win over No. 9 Michigan State. The likely top five pick did just about everything in the Round of 32 win. He pulled up for jumpers and swished them, grabbed a few boards, played strong defense inside and even had a few blocks.

The Spartans' one hope was that fellow freshman Miles Bridges would be able to outplay Jackson, but Bridges played with little control at times and was simply outplayed, even though he had 22 points of his own. Jackson hit a few big jumpers in his face and was a force throughout whenever MSU cut into the Jayhawks' lead. Jackson may have some big things lying ahead for him in the Midwest Region and beyond.

Jayson Tatum, forward, Duke (6-8/204)
While Jackson led his team to glory Sunday, Tatum was not able to do the same later in the evening. In Duke's first round game, Tatum was able to run roughshod through No. 15 Troy's defense, scoring 18 points. He added 12 rebounds and four blocks and was simply the best player on the floor. The Trojans had no one who could stay in front of him, as so few teams in the NCAA do.

But in what was essentially a road game against No. 7 South Carolina, Tatum was held in check in part by the Gamecocks' potent zone. He was also limited by foul trouble. He still had 15 points and made a few nice moves inside as well as some key rebounds. But he didn't rise to the moment like he did in the ACC Tournament. Again, a zone like South Carolina's eliminates his innate advantage against any one defender and the Gamecocks were able to prevent a dominant effort, upsetting Duke, 88-81.

Lonzo Ball, guard, UCLA (6-6/190)
In UCLA's first game, Ball didn't quite look like himself. He played through a bruised hip and was clearly not his same explosive self. This came after he nursed a thumb injury during the Bruins' Pac 12 Tournament loss to Arizona. Despite any limitations, he still made 6 of 7 shots for 15 points, made two threes and dished out three assists in UCLA's 97-80 win over No. 14 Kent State. Not bad for someone who is supposed to be injured, right?

His first half against No. 6 Cincinnati wasn't remarkable by any means. But as he's done many times this season, he came alive with a thunderous stretch to key a UCLA win. The Bruins trailed 47-46 in the early second half when Ball shed his defender for a step-back three. Next possession, he ran into a trey in transition. A few minutes later, he dished out some pretty assists and put in a layup himself to give UCLA a double-digit lead. Many of his assists during the second half were of his other-worldly self, finding guys for alley-oops with beautiful feeds.

Ball finished with a near triple-double. He led both teams with 18 points (7 of 10 shooting, 4 of 7 from three) and nine assists. He also had seven rebounds and two steals in the Bruin victory.

De'Aaron Fox and Malik Monk, guards, Kentucky
Kentucky's freshman combo struggled Friday in an easy 79-70 win over No. 15 Northern Kentucky. Fox had 19 points and dished out three assists, although he had an unseemly six turnovers. Monk was off from the field, going 3 of 11 for 12 points. He missed all six of his threes.

And for most of Sunday, they had similar struggles. Fox's jump shot, which isn't anywhere close to Monk's, was off. Monk was limited by a stout Wichita State defense. With that backcourt in a rut, the Shockers were poised to, well, shock. But as the best players do in March, Fox and Monk made winning plays. Monk made a key three with 2:10 left. Fox drove for a dunk on the next possession. And with the Wildcats up just one with 12 seconds left, Monk came up with a key block and hit two free throws.

Overall, Fox and Monk had 14 points each on 13 and 10 shots, respectively. That's not a very pretty line. But each was essential to the Wildcats' win, combining to score Kentucky's last 10 points and leading the team to see another day in the NCAA Tournament.

Florida St. forward Jonathan Isaac played what are likely the final games of his collegiate career. The freshman was efficient, making 9 of 15 shots for 25 points. While he had double-digit rebounds in both games, his Seminoles were blown out by Xavier on Saturday evening.

Arizona forward Lauri Markkanen may be the best player left in the West Region. In games against North Dakota and St. Mary's, Markkanen scored 36 points on just 18 shots, getting to the free throw line for 14 attempts. He also reeled in 17 rebounds and led the Wildcats to the Sweet 16.

South Carolina guard Sindarius Thornwell began the weekend with a thorough domination of No. 10 Marquette with 29 points, 11 rebounds, two assist, two blocks and three steals. The senior followed that up with 22 points, six rebounds and five assists while leading the high-profile upset of No. 2 Duke.


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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1488 » by Blonde » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:14 pm

Answering the poll question, I had to go with DSJ. Frank was my next choice, but I just feel he is so raw and not ready to contribute that he would set the rebuild back even further. Reminds me so much of Exum at this point and that scares me. I think I would pass on Isaac too for some of the same reasons, but mostly because I don't really see him as having a super high ceiling and is redundant with Bender.
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Post#1489 » by Damkac » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:19 pm

Draft Isaac with 5th pick and trade Bledsoe to NY/Sac/Mavs/Minny to get Ntilikina.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1490 » by NTB » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:29 pm

I don't understand how you see Bender as our future SF.
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Post#1491 » by Mulhollanddrive » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:34 pm

DeAaron Fox for me.

And then maybe you can get Isaac too with a Bledsoe trade.

10 year core:
Fox, Booker, Isaac, Bender, Chriss
Ulis, SG, Warren, PF, Williams

Not bad for a worse scenario lottery.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1492 » by Blonde » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:41 pm

NTB wrote:I don't understand how you see Bender as our future SF.

If you're referring to my post, I don't. I also don't think Isaac will or should play SF in the NBA.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1493 » by kennydorglas » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:51 pm

I'd settle for Isaac in the #5.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1494 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:05 pm

At 5 give me MARKKANEN!!!!!!

He's proven he can score inside and outside with great efficiency, and has demonstrated an improved defensive game. I think him, Bender and Chriss will eventually figure out how to defend at an NBA level and make an insane front court rotation that can play on the floor at the same time, bombing threes and scoring inside. :droop:
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1495 » by Gorilla Warfare » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:46 am

If you guys think we're drafting someone other than Fox or Monk with our pick then there's something wrong with you. Two great Kentucky guards has McD cacking in his pants.
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Post#1496 » by Blackification » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:51 am

If we don't get top 3 I say we trade the pick
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1497 » by MrMiyagi » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:15 am

Gorilla Warfare wrote:If you guys think we're drafting someone other than Fox or Monk with our pick then there's something wrong with you. Two great Kentucky guards has McD cacking in his pants.

Jamal Murray was better than either of them, and we took Dragan Bender. We took Alex Len over Nerlens Noel. We took Tyler Ennis and TJ Warren over James Young. We took Marquese Chriss over Skal Labissiere (who was projected in the lottery, but fell).

We have drafted Archie Goodwin, Devin Booker and Tyler Ulis. Yes, we traded for Bledsoe and Knight, but I don't think we can assume interest in Monk and Fox just because they're Kentucky Wildcats. I really don't think either are that great. I honestly don't think we're interested in a guard unless it's Fultz and Ball.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1498 » by sunsbum » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:14 am

Some of you have given up on Bender already?! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1499 » by sunsbum » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:15 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
Gorilla Warfare wrote:If you guys think we're drafting someone other than Fox or Monk with our pick then there's something wrong with you. Two great Kentucky guards has McD cacking in his pants.

Jamal Murray was better than either of them, and we took Dragan Bender. We took Alex Len over Nerlens Noel. We took Tyler Ennis and TJ Warren over James Young. We took Marquese Chriss over Skal Labissiere (who was projected in the lottery, but fell).

We have drafted Archie Goodwin, Devin Booker and Tyler Ulis. Yes, we traded for Bledsoe and Knight, but I don't think we can assume interest in Monk and Fox just because they're Kentucky Wildcats. I really don't think either are that great. I honestly don't think we're interested in a guard unless it's Fultz and Ball.


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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1500 » by Kerrsed » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:12 am

For as much as i dont trust Euro prospects, my #5 is Ntilinika.
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