Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion 3: About Last Knight

[Son of Ra]

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With trade deadline approaching, Mavs excused Williams and Bogut from practice

Williams and Bogut for Favors and protected 1st?

[DaleyBlind]

Going to bed now, when I wake up in the morning I hope Knight and Tucker have been sent packing

[sunskerr]

Come on Santa. We've been good Suns fans and we deserve an early Christmas.

[Qwigglez]

Come on Santa. We've been good Suns fans and we deserve an early Christmas.

What would be a good Christmas for the Suns in your opinion?

[Qwigglez]

As for Tucker, one idea i had, and who knows how down they will be, but i think that Tucker/Chandler would do great for the Spurs.

Tucker/Chandler for Ginobilli (Buyout)/ Murray/2017 1st (or even a future 1st).

Ginobilli really isnt doing much with the Spurs and really isnt playing that many minutes. At 39 years old, i feel like they could get more out of Tucker and Chandler (specially in the playoffs) than they will get from Ginobilli. He is on an expiring contract, and we can just buy him out and let him retire a few months early.

Unfortunately its against the NBA rules for us to trade for him, buy him out, then he re-sign to the Spurs for cheap cheap (Since he would already have got paid in full from the buyout). So i doubt the Spurs would do it, as more of a respect thing rather than a "It doesnt make basketball sense" thing.

No way I help those jerk-offs. LMA really wanted to play with Chandler, and he could have... in Phoenix. I'm not gifting them Chandler and Tucker so they can win another championship and we end up with Murray when there are plenty of good PG's in the upcoming draft. Eff those guys, oh and I wouldn't buyout Ginobli either if we did this sort of deal. In fact, I'd sit Booker more and have Ginobli play all 48 minutes. Have him play center too so he can flop all day long and rack up fines for flopping. I'd want our court to be as shiny as the back of his head.

[Kerrsed]

Come on Santa. We've been good Suns fans and we deserve an early Christmas.

What would be a good Christmas for the Suns in your opinion?

[Kerrsed]

As for Tucker, one idea i had, and who knows how down they will be, but i think that Tucker/Chandler would do great for the Spurs.

Tucker/Chandler for Ginobilli (Buyout)/ Murray/2017 1st (or even a future 1st).

Ginobilli really isnt doing much with the Spurs and really isnt playing that many minutes. At 39 years old, i feel like they could get more out of Tucker and Chandler (specially in the playoffs) than they will get from Ginobilli. He is on an expiring contract, and we can just buy him out and let him retire a few months early.

Unfortunately its against the NBA rules for us to trade for him, buy him out, then he re-sign to the Spurs for cheap cheap (Since he would already have got paid in full from the buyout). So i doubt the Spurs would do it, as more of a respect thing rather than a "It doesnt make basketball sense" thing.

No way I help those jerk-offs. LMA really wanted to play with Chandler, and he could have... in Phoenix. I'm not gifting them Chandler and Tucker so they can win another championship and we end up with Murray when there are plenty of good PG's in the upcoming draft. Eff those guys, oh and I wouldn't buyout Ginobli either if we did this sort of deal. In fact, I'd sit Booker more and have Ginobli play all 48 minutes. Have him play center too so he can flop all day long and rack up fines for flopping. I'd want our court to be as shiny as the back of his head.

I'd rather have the Spurs win it than the Warriors, lol.

And yes, i just said that.

[Qwigglez]

I'd rather have the Spurs win it than the Warriors, lol.

And yes, i just said that.

[Son of Ra]

Come on Santa. We've been good Suns fans and we deserve an early Christmas.

What would be a good Christmas for the Suns in your opinion?

Where's Stephenson?

[Qwigglez]

I think we are going to see a handful of trades in the next 8 or so hours. I need to get some sleep so I can be up for all this.

[carey]

I've been checking the forum like every hour at least in the last weeks hoping for a trade, even if just for a trade's sake, but at this point I'm more than fine standing pat.
I think a trade in the off-season/trade day makes a lot more sense for us than doing something now.

- We can see where our pick lands, have more time to evaluate our potential picks.

- Knight's value can't get any lower so we might as well play him and see what happens (I hate watching him too). We don't need the cap space and worst that can happen is us losing more games. Like some have suggested, start him every other game and rest Bledsoe.

- One of the few things that are right with the squad today is chemistry and an off-season trade does way less harm than one half way through, _especially_ if it were to be Bledsoe.

This is what I've been saying for a while with one caveat. I think the refusal to include part of our young core for Cousins means that should we get a solid offer for Eric we'd move him. Whether that's now or before the season starts depends on who is chasing him. I would imagine that we'd like to make sure we are picking #1 or #2 before pulling the trigger on the Bledsoe trade but Dennis Smith Jr. is also going to be special and there's a very good chance he'll be there when we draft.

[King4Day]

Lakers want a second round pick for Young. Setting up the ultimate tank after moving Williams.

I'm super concerned that we don't make any moves. If we don't, there's a good chance we fall back to the 4-6 slot. We're bad but we're good enough to steal games. If LA trades Young, they may not win another game this season.
Philly, with their trade, appears to be tanking now.
I really hope we at least trade Tucker.

[Son of Ra]

I've been checking the forum like every hour at least in the last weeks hoping for a trade, even if just for a trade's sake, but at this point I'm more than fine standing pat.
I think a trade in the off-season/trade day makes a lot more sense for us than doing something now.

- We can see where our pick lands, have more time to evaluate our potential picks.

- Knight's value can't get any lower so we might as well play him and see what happens (I hate watching him too). We don't need the cap space and worst that can happen is us losing more games. Like some have suggested, start him every other game and rest Bledsoe.

- One of the few things that are right with the squad today is chemistry and an off-season trade does way less harm than one half way through, _especially_ if it were to be Bledsoe.

This is what I've been saying for a while with one caveat. I think the refusal to include part of our young core for Cousins means that should we get a solid offer for Eric we'd move him. Whether that's now or before the season starts depends on who is chasing him. I would imagine that we'd like to make sure we are picking #1 or #2 before pulling the trigger on the Bledsoe trade but Dennis Smith Jr. is also going to be special and there's a very good chance he'll be there when we draft.

Yeah, for that reason I agree that we should wait and see where we draft. If we can draft a PG then we've got to kick the tires on a Bledsoe trade.

I'd do Philly '17 (including the swap rights with Sacramento), Okafor, Holmes for Bledsoe and MIA '18 or Suns '19. Too bad they supposedly value Okafor as a top 3 pick still. I think I could even get behind this one at the deadline already.

[thamadkant]

Waiting til the suns draft a PG will only lower Bledsoe's currently all time high value.

Because teams will know the Suns want minutes for the rookie PG.

Teams like Wolves, Bulls, 76ers, Bucks, Knicks etc looking for vets in their prime players may pay high for Bledsoe.

[carey]

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Tweet says: Okafor would prefer being traded to Chicago, not that it matters.

[Gorilla Warfare]

Happy Trade Deadline Day, everyone!

[King4Day]

Latest on the wire:

Knicks still pursuing Rubio (I expect this to happen)
OKC pursuing Taj Gibson
Bulls made these guys available: Taj, McDermott, and Mirotic

IMO, this looks more like a buyers market. I think if we trade Tucker, it'll be to Toronto or Boston for maybe 2 2nd rounders. I no longer think we'll get a first, given that there are so many guys that can still be traded.

[King4Day]

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The Suns continue to shop Brandon Knight and other vets (including Tyson Chandler) but have struggled all week for traction on their guys.

[jredsaz]

Adrian Wojnarowski: The Raptors still have an interest in PJ Tucker, in Phoenix. The Suns are hoping to get a first-round pick for PJ Tucker. – via Facebook.com

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[jeff2020]

If we can trade Knight somehow I don't even care if we trade Tucker. Would be a huge success just ridding ourselves of Knight.