The One And Only Offseason Thread 3

SILERtheDEFILER · Post #1501 » by **SILERtheDEFILER** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:07 pm

thatwasrude

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #1502 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:11 pm

Cutter wrote:I've said several times that Sanders is an under the radar value player due to his marijuana related troubles. I believe in redemption and second chances, but Sanders ability to change into a medium-high character player who could revert to his high level play of a couple of years ago concerns me. If we get "good Larry" it would vault this team to the next level. If we get "loser Larry" it would set this team back several years.

I guess in this day and age you need a top notch medical staff as well as a top psychologist for all the head case out there.

Yeah, it's Larry's words, plus reports of bad blood in the locker room due to his presence, that make me want to shy away from him.

King4Day · Post #1503 » by **King4Day** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:15 pm

So why would Bloomer suddenly come out with a rumor like that? He's NEVER one to do that and it seems so unlikely.
Anyone know more about it?

SSOL · Post #1504 » by **SSOL** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:15 pm

Brightside has a good write up on it.

Post #1505 » by **TASTIC** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:16 pm

I'd like Aminu here.

Better option than most out there and he could play the 3/4 for us and he's an extremely good defensive rebounder. I get the feeling he's going to end up on a really good team and prove he's worth more than the low salary he's probably going to get...I'd like that team to be us!

In saying that, there likely isn't any minutes for him unfortunately but as others have said we're seriously lacking in the banger/rebounding department.

Elton Brand? Bernard James? Kenyon Martin? Maxiell? Udoh?

I think Udoh has the most upside as a rebounder/shot-blocker and I think I'd spew if we signed K-Mart, hate that guy.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1506 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:28 pm

Larry would be a great fit from a pure basketball standpoint; a guy like him let's your guards gamble a little more which would lead to more break outs.

But he's a huge risk. Not only his bad behavior this year but he's also only had one good season as a pro and is about to start a 4 44mil contract. If he gets his head on straight he's a bargain because he can really effect a game defensively. Bucks are probably best off keeping sanders for now and hoping he gets right instead of selling now when his value is at its lowest.

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BobbieL · Post #1507 » by **BobbieL** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:31 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:Here we are on the internet. We should all be fairly aware of the merits and demerits of marijuana relative to, say, alcohol. It's a cultural thing, a generational thing, and doesn't bear on my assessment of Larry Sanders or Michael Beasley. The number of players who use who remain "high"-character individuals in good standing in their communities vastly outnumbers the few who don't. In my opinion, there's no causal connection between character and tendency to smoke.

The problem with Beasley and Sanders isn't there pot use - its just they are knucklehead. Well to date for Sanders - maybe he changes. Whether its pot use or not, they will probably be pains to deal with until they grow up.

spanishninja · Post #1508 » by **spanishninja** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:42 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Larry would be a great fit from a pure basketball standpoint; a guy like him let's your guards gamble a little more which would lead to more break outs.

But he's a huge risk. Not only his bad behavior this year but he's also only had one good season as a pro and is about to start a 4 44mil contract. If he gets his head on straight he's a bargain because he can really effect a game defensively. Bucks are probably best off keeping sanders for now and hoping he gets right instead of selling now when his value is at its lowest.

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yeah, if we agree that bledsoe doesnt deserve more than 44 for 4 years, bringing in Sanders for the same rate woukd be laughable.

sunsbum · Post #1509 » by **sunsbum** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:06 pm

Maybe you haven't noticed but rim protecting big men are at a premium in the association right now. Guards clearly are not. I know its a big if but.......errrr if ole Larry can get his **** straight his contract would be a coup. Lambo style.

Post #1510 » by **Qwigglez** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:29 pm

I think the front office is very adamant about getting high quality guys who aren't much of a headcase. I don't think Larry Sanders fits that mold.

Frank Lee · Post #1511 » by **Frank Lee** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:30 pm

spanishninja wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Larry would be a great fit from a pure basketball standpoint; a guy like him let's your guards gamble a little more which would lead to more break outs.

But he's a huge risk. Not only his bad behavior this year but he's also only had one good season as a pro and is about to start a 4 44mil contract. If he gets his head on straight he's a bargain because he can really effect a game defensively. Bucks are probably best off keeping sanders for now and hoping he gets right instead of selling now when his value is at its lowest.

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yeah, if we agree that bledsoe doesnt deserve more than 44 for 4 years, bringing in Sanders for the same rate woukd be laughable.

Keep in mind it is Bledsoe who does not believe the 44 for 4 is appropriate. All Bledsoe has to say is I don't want to play here, or I would rather play somewhere else. Then it is up to the front office to parlay him into something better. I am inclined to believe there is more to his hesitation to sign than just simply numbers.

Shades of JJ wouldn't you say?

Sunsdeuce · Post #1512 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:39 pm

Frank Lee wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Larry would be a great fit from a pure basketball standpoint; a guy like him let's your guards gamble a little more which would lead to more break outs.

But he's a huge risk. Not only his bad behavior this year but he's also only had one good season as a pro and is about to start a 4 44mil contract. If he gets his head on straight he's a bargain because he can really effect a game defensively. Bucks are probably best off keeping sanders for now and hoping he gets right instead of selling now when his value is at its lowest.

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yeah, if we agree that bledsoe doesnt deserve more than 44 for 4 years, bringing in Sanders for the same rate woukd be laughable.

Keep in mind it is Bledsoe who does not believe the 44 for 4 is appropriate. All Bledsoe has to say is I don't want to play here, or I would rather play somewhere else. Then it is up to the front office to parlay him into something better. I am inclined to believe there is more to his hesitation to sign than just simply numbers.

Shades of JJ wouldn't you say?

It's funny everyone keeps saying the JJ situation is completely different, yet here we are. Got a feeling he is going to end up finding a team that will sign him. He will feel disrespected by the suns and there will be a sign and trade. Just hope we get good stuff in return.

Almost all free agents have signed now. And currently there is not foreseeable change in both bledsoe's thinking as well as the suns FO line of thinking. They are both waiting for each other to budge. I'm starting to think the relationship between both Bledsoe and suns may not be so good at this point.

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carey · Post #1513 » by **carey** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:49 pm

Bledsoe's season here and Joe's last season here are remarkably similar, except for 2 things. Joe shot 48% from 3 (!) and Eric missed half the year. It's just really, really risky to give Eric a 5 years max. It could very well be franchise suicide if he gets another injury to the same knee. McDonough is too new at his job to risk it all on one signing. Just my 2 cents.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... game::none

JTrain · Post #1514 » by **JTrain** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:49 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/490906225555832833[/tweet]

Post #1515 » by **rsavaj** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:50 pm

JTrain wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/490906225555832833[/tweet]

1) With what cap space?
2) Hill can't be traded until December.

Nothing to it.

sunsbum · Post #1516 » by **sunsbum** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:50 pm

Problem is no one has money to sign him and no one is making moves to clear space. Who's left? Bucks, rockets, Lakers?

Sunsdeuce · Post #1517 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:54 pm

sunsbum wrote:Problem is no one has money to sign him and no one is making moves to clear space. Who's left? Bucks, rockets, Lakers?

True. Do you think this situation is heading down the road of irreversible broken relations between Bledsoe and suns?

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gaspar · Post #1518 » by **gaspar** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:55 pm

Probably Jon Bloom is Schultz's source :lol:

sunsbum · Post #1519 » by **sunsbum** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:57 pm

rsavaj wrote:
JTrain wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/490906225555832833[/tweet]

1) With what cap space?
2) Hill can't be traded until December.

Nothing to it.

He said they haven't officially signed him yet. Also said we are interested in Monroe.

Post #1520 » by **Qwigglez** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:58 pm

Did the Lakers officially sign Jordan Hill? Maybe he didn't sign the contract yet.