Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion

[TeamTragic]

I think the Suns are getting Kyrie, Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, some combo of that
Bledsoe to the Cavs, along with Dudley, maybe Chriss or the Heat pick

Melo to Houston and Knicks will get garbage

That sounds about right. Salary dump and Kyrie. I want to keep Chriss though.

[Kerrsed]

Absolutely crazy. I can see the smoke

That smoke is from my brain. I think the butler did it with the candle stick in the study?!?!

[Fo-Real]

Absolutely crazy. I can see the smoke

That smoke is from my brain. I think the butler did it with the candle stick in the study?!?!

[BobbieL]

I think the Suns are getting Kyrie, Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, some combo of that
Bledsoe to the Cavs, along with Dudley, maybe Chriss or the Heat pick

Melo to Houston and Knicks will get garbage

That sounds about right. Salary dump and Kyrie. I want to keep Chriss though.

I just have a hard time with Minnesota offering Wiggins now that they have Teague. Plus, Thibs likes defense and Teague is better

So, I think the Suns have a real chance as they can offer veteran help and either a young guy like Chriss or that Heat pick

[RaisingArizona]

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[Kerrsed]

I think the Suns are getting Kyrie, Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, some combo of that
Bledsoe to the Cavs, along with Dudley, maybe Chriss or the Heat pick

Melo to Houston and Knicks will get garbage

That sounds about right. Salary dump and Kyrie. I want to keep Chriss though.

I just have a hard time with Minnesota offering Wiggins now that they have Teague

Exactly.

And with Thibs being a defense oriented Coach, i dont see any way they slide Butler to SF just to play Irving next to Teague.

[8on]

Ok, so we got video of Chandler hanging out with Irving.....and a picture of Bledsoe hanging out with Lebron

Bled is working out with LeBron and D Rose today. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2723951-lebron-james-derrick-rose-eric-bledsoe-reportedly-working-out-in-las-vegas

1) LeBron is a cryptic dude.
2) I think he's saying he wants Bledsoe in Cleveland.

[BobbieL]

That sounds about right. Salary dump and Kyrie. I want to keep Chriss though.

I just have a hard time with Minnesota offering Wiggins now that they have Teague

Exactly.

And with Thibs being a defense oriented Coach, i dont see any way they slide Butler to SF just to play Irving next to Teague.

I actually edited my post to add about Thibs and defense. So we are tracking

To me Wiggins and Teague is better than Kyrie and whatever -

Suns might get Bledsoe by default unless the Nuggets offer Murray

[bwgood77]

I think the Suns are getting Kyrie, Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, some combo of that
Bledsoe to the Cavs, along with Dudley, maybe Chriss or the Heat pick

Melo to Houston and Knicks will get garbage

That sounds about right. Salary dump and Kyrie. I want to keep Chriss though.

I just have a hard time with Minnesota offering Wiggins now that they have Teague. Plus, Thibs likes defense and Teague is better

So, I think the Suns have a real chance as they can offer veteran help and either a young guy like Chriss or that Heat pick

If I was the Cavs, I'd do it 12/15 with Teague and Wiggins.

[bigfoot]

I just have a hard time with Minnesota offering Wiggins now that they have Teague

Exactly.

And with Thibs being a defense oriented Coach, i dont see any way they slide Butler to SF just to play Irving next to Teague.

I actually edited my post to add about Thibs and defense. So we are tracking

To me Wiggins and Teague is better than Kyrie and whatever -

Suns might get Bledsoe by default unless the Nuggets offer Murray

Wiggins + Teague > Irving + whatever

Blesdoe + Jackson > Irving + whatever

Bledsoe + Warren > Irving + whatever

I don't see the Cav's getting much of anything for Irving

Bledsoe + draft picks == Irving

[mademan]

I just have a hard time with Minnesota offering Wiggins now that they have Teague

Exactly.

And with Thibs being a defense oriented Coach, i dont see any way they slide Butler to SF just to play Irving next to Teague.

I actually edited my post to add about Thibs and defense. So we are tracking

To me Wiggins and Teague is better than Kyrie and whatever -

Suns might get Bledsoe by default unless the Nuggets offer Murray

I think u under estimate the pettiness of Gilbert if u think he's gonna take that big of a haircut on a kyrie trade.

Whether or not kyrie will cause a locker room distraction, I am almost 100% sure Gilbert would rather a circus than a mediocre prospect, Bledsoe and a likely non lotto pick

[BobbieL]

That sounds about right. Salary dump and Kyrie. I want to keep Chriss though.

I just have a hard time with Minnesota offering Wiggins now that they have Teague. Plus, Thibs likes defense and Teague is better

So, I think the Suns have a real chance as they can offer veteran help and either a young guy like Chriss or that Heat pick

If I was the Cavs, I'd do it 12/15 with Teague and Wiggins.

Oh heck yes! They would have Teague and Wiggins for the last four months of the season peaking for the playoffs. I am saying I don't think the Twolves should do it - unless they can't afford Wiggins and KAT soon. But if the Cavs were truly offered Wiggins and Teague for Kyrie and Frye for the salaries to match, I would do that deal yesterday.

[JJ13]

Thought teague couldn't be traded since he just signed as FA?

[8on]

I just have a hard time with Minnesota offering Wiggins now that they have Teague. Plus, Thibs likes defense and Teague is better

So, I think the Suns have a real chance as they can offer veteran help and either a young guy like Chriss or that Heat pick

If I was the Cavs, I'd do it 12/15 with Teague and Wiggins.

Oh heck yes! They would have Teague and Wiggins for the last four months of the season peaking for the playoffs. I am saying I don't think the Twolves should do it - unless they can't afford Wiggins and KAT soon. But if the Cavs were truly offered Wiggins and Teague for Kyrie and Frye for the salaries to match, I would do that deal yesterday.

Can't. Can't trade a free agent for three months or 12/15, whichever is sooner.

[Kerrsed]

Thought teague couldn't be traded since he just signed as FA?

He can, but it would have to wait until December 15th. Cav's cant and wont wait that long.

[Villalobos]

Thought teague couldn't be traded since he just signed as FA?

Can't be traded until December 14th. Doubt the Cavs want to wait that long for a number of reasons; Kyrie is made of glass and if he gets seriously injured again they're screwed. Plugging in a starter in the middle of a season is not good for chemistry on a serious contender. And the Kyrie/LeBron drama and lockerroom crap will just lower Kyrie's value and be a giant headache.

[King4Day]

Thought teague couldn't be traded since he just signed as FA?

Correct. He can't be dealt until December.
in other words, if Irving starts the season with Cleveland, don't be surprised if a trade happens mid-year with the Wolves.

[mademan]

Thought teague couldn't be traded since he just signed as FA?

He can, but it would have to wait until December 15th. Cav's cant and wont wait that long.

Depends on the offers. If the 2 best trades out there are either choosing Bledsoe and change or Melo and change, I'm fairly certain cavs will take their chances with a strained locker room relationship than sell that cheaply

[JJ13]

If the rift with Bron and Kyrie is half as bad as reported, I can't see Cavs waiting that long.

[Desertfox]

Could a Bledsoe/Irving/Nitilkina trade already be setup, but since Nitilkina cant be traded till August 4, the Cavs are just exploring other options till then?