Offseason Thread 6: The Not So Mexican Stand-off Continues

LukasBMW · Post #1541 » by **LukasBMW** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:10 am

Let's all hope Sacramento implodes this year in the stacked western conference and pray Boogie demands a trade.

With Bledsoe on the Suns, maybe we can get him here?

Would love to see a Dragic/Bledsoe/Boogie big 3 with Isaiah, Markieff, Marcus, and Green running support.

We've got loads of draft picks and young talent in Ennis, Goodwin, Plumlee, Len, and Warren to bargain with when the next 20/10 all-star caliber big man gets pissed off.

BurningHeart · Post #1542 » by **BurningHeart** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:11 am

Glad to hear that it seems like Goran resigning is basically a formality at this point.

Hopefully that doesn't change.

Sunsdeuce · Post #1543 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:11 am

JDLAW wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
JDLAW wrote:It is called a compromise - something both sides needed to do to get an acceptable deal done. I am somewhat shocked about the griping that is going on about this. It appears to be a good deal and it is done. We have a happy player who is a key part of the team's success and wants to be here.

I'm just nitpicking because I really dislike Paul.

Bledsoe is on a decent deal. An overpay now but you have to overpay for young premier talent and the contract would probably be much easier to swallow when the new TV deal gets done and the salary cap is increased.

Yeah I hear you. I do not like or respect him. But as one of the most senior Suns fans in existence, I am happy we kept a key member of our team.

Totally agree. Still will not respect Bledsoe but I have to root for the suns to win.

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BurningHeart · Post #1544 » by **BurningHeart** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:14 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:McD finally gets his way. I bet Sarver and Babby wish they could have used that $70m to sign Goran Dragic's extended family

Yeah because Ryan McDonough hasn't had any control thus far.

Sunsdeuce · Post #1545 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:14 am

LukasBMW wrote:Let's all hope Sacramento implodes this year in the stacked western conference and pray Boogie demands a trade.

With Bledsoe on the Suns, maybe we can get him here?

Would love to see a Dragic/Bledsoe/Boogie big 3 with Isaiah, Markieff, Marcus, and Green running support.

We've got loads of draft picks and young talent in Ennis, Goodwin, Plumlee, Len, and Warren to bargain with when the next 20/10 all-star caliber big man gets pissed off.

If you are referring to cousins as boogie, totally agree. The guy is a beast. Don't care how crazy he is. Barkley was considered crazy too but he took us to the finals. Cousins would be a dream scenario. An addition of cousins makes this team a true contender.

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MGA · Post #1546 » by **MGA** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:15 am

NaturalBuns wrote:Well Goodwin will never see minutes now.

good. this board overrates the heck out of him.

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Post #1547 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:16 am

JDLAW wrote:Yeah I hear you. I do not like or respect him. But as one of the most senior Suns fans in existence, I am happy we kept a key member of our team.

No doubt about that. Just glad we (hopefully) won't have to hear from Rich Paul for a while.

Post #1548 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:17 am

LukasBMW wrote:Let's all hope Sacramento implodes this year in the stacked western conference and pray Boogie demands a trade.

With Bledsoe on the Suns, maybe we can get him here?

Would love to see a Dragic/Bledsoe/Boogie big 3 with Isaiah, Markieff, Marcus, and Green running support.

We've got loads of draft picks and young talent in Ennis, Goodwin, Plumlee, Len, and Warren to bargain with when the next 20/10 all-star caliber big man gets pissed off.

A man can hope.... :pray:

Christine-In-AZ · Post #1549 » by **Christine-In-AZ** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:26 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
JDLAW wrote:Yeah I hear you. I do not like or respect him. But as one of the most senior Suns fans in existence, I am happy we kept a key member of our team.

No doubt about that. Just glad we (hopefully) won't have to hear from Rich Paul for a while.

I don't think I've ever heard him speak

Christine-In-AZ · Post #1550 » by **Christine-In-AZ** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:28 am

BurningHeart wrote:Glad to hear that it seems like Goran resigning is basically a formality at this point.

Hopefully that doesn't change.

The Knicks and Lakers may try really really hard

Post #1551 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:29 am

ChrisInAZ wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
JDLAW wrote:Yeah I hear you. I do not like or respect him. But as one of the most senior Suns fans in existence, I am happy we kept a key member of our team.

No doubt about that. Just glad we (hopefully) won't have to hear from Rich Paul for a while.

I don't think I've ever heard him speak

Sorry meant, we won't have to hear about Rich Paul.

Christine-In-AZ · Post #1552 » by **Christine-In-AZ** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:29 am

BurningHeart wrote:Glad to hear that it seems like Goran resigning is basically a formality at this point.

Hopefully that doesn't change.

The Knicks and Lakers may try really really hard

Post #1553 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:32 am

Thinking about it now, I think we're actually positioned really well. With Goran/Kieff coming up for extensions/resigning next year, if we can get them on a decent contract then we'll have a solid young core locked up with significant increases in the salary cap in two seasons.

aIvin adams · Post #1554 » by **aIvin adams** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:42 am

SF88 wrote:This contract depends on his health ESPECIALLY since its a 5 year with NO team options AT ALL in it. If he continues to miss more than 10 games/season throughout his contract, then yea we got ripped off. If he doesn't then we got a good deal.

Just to keep perspective though, Kyle Lowry, who is every bit as good as him except doesn't have anything close to the injury trouble that Bledsoe has, got just $12M/yr.

I'm not excited about the $$ in the contract, I'm excited to put this behind us and to just focus on the new season now.

do not agree. lowry is a very good player and has more experience than bledsoe. but he doesn't have the physical tools bledsoe has. lowry is a better playmaker, which is good because they are both PGs. bledsoe is better at everything else IMO. it would be ideal if Bledsoe could be paired with another guard who can create off the dribble. hopefully the Suns can find someone.

thamadkant · Post #1555 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:47 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Thinking about it now, I think we're actually positioned really well. With Goran/Kieff coming up for extensions/resigning next year, if we can get them on a decent contract then we'll have a solid young core locked up with significant increases in the salary cap in two seasons.

You think so?

Basically Suns will end up using their cap space resigning and extending their own players... which in theory isnt bad, but thats assuming the Suns have the correct personnel to make a run for a ring.

I dont think Kieff is a starting PF for a top 4 contender....
Bledsoe, Dragic is a fine PG/SG punch... but Suns will need for Kieff, Len, Plumlee to all become elite defenders atleast or be two way contributors.. like atleast replicate a 38 year old Tim Duncan's impact both sides... which only Len has potential to... in 3-4 years, order to be a top 4 team.

Sunsdeuce · Post #1556 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:50 am

I would like to see assist numbers double this year. Besides not having legit bigs, I think my biggest Complaint is our assist numbers stink. We tend to play too much one on one ball. Hopefully coach can fix that up.

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Sunsdeuce · Post #1557 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:51 am

1UPZ wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Thinking about it now, I think we're actually positioned really well. With Goran/Kieff coming up for extensions/resigning next year, if we can get them on a decent contract then we'll have a solid young core locked up with significant increases in the salary cap in two seasons.

You think so?

Basically Suns will end up using their cap space resigning and extending their own players... which in theory isnt bad, but thats assuming the Suns have the correct personnel to make a run for a ring.

I dont think Kieff is a starting PF for a top 4 contender....
Bledsoe, Dragic is a fine PG/SG punch... but Suns will need for Kieff, Len, Plumlee to all become elite defenders atleast or be two way contributors.. like atleast replicate a 38 year old Tim Duncan's impact both sides... which only Len has potential to... in 3-4 years, order to be a top 4 team.

I don't think there is a post you write that I don't agree with. Good stuff, keep it up. And you are completely right.

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JJ13 · Post #1558 » by **JJ13** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:53 am

I'm stoked for a bled-dragic-warren-keif lineup...could be most solid 1-4 line up in a year or two. Ive got high hopes for Warren, his D is underrated. Love IT-Green-Tucker off the bench. Praying that Miles and Len keep developing, otherwise I'm flipping picks+Archie+Len for PF/C at the deadline...I hear NJ has $-problems and another Fropez in need of healthy feet

JJ13 · Post #1559 » by **JJ13** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:55 am

JJ13 wrote:I'm stoked for a bled-dragic-warren-keif lineup...could be most solid 1-4 line up in a year or two. Ive got high hopes for Warren, his D is underrated. Love IT-Green-Tucker off the bench. Praying that Miles and Len keep developing, otherwise I'm flipping picks+Archie+Len for PF/C at the deadline...I hear NJ has $-problems and another Fropez in need of healthy feet

Sorry, that's Brooklyn not NJ... Hipster Nets fans are the worst fans in the NBA btw

lazyboy62 · Post #1560 » by **lazyboy62** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:56 am

Jamil Wilson looks like a beat in this video against rec. league guys. Could be the steal of the year if the whole NBA goes down!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ6uCxa8hmE