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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1541 » by Qwigglez » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:24 am

Revived wrote:
Crives wrote:At least the kings/spurs are losing tonight

You may do as you wish but it’s probably less stressful to realize that the Suns are likely not going to make playoffs in the incredibly tough West by overcoming these key absences. 3 of their arguably top 4 players are gonna miss 15 games+ (at the very minimum) this season from the looks of it.

This season can still be a success even without making the playoffs and winning 35-40 games.

Maybe it’s “loser mentality” but for me, this is much less stressful and more fun way to watch the games. I don’t have the “Oh their not gonna make playoffs then why even watch” mentality The important thing for me is to see the system that Monty Williams implements and then the progress in the 2 best players, Booker, & Ayton and then seeing what Cam and Jerome can show flashes of in their first season in the league.


A lot of other teams in the West have key injuries too. Warriors, Blazers, Kings, even Pelicans. Next year could get even harder in terms of competition with a bunch of players returning, as well as the Mavs having ample salary cap space though there isn't much of a free agent market this off-season. This season is really the all-in season I see us getting over that hump and making the playoffs, despite the injuries and Ayton being out on suspension. We need to capitalize on the trade market IMO, or just hope everyone meshes well once everyone gets back.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1542 » by Barkley6 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:09 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
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Crives wrote:At least the kings/spurs are losing tonight

You may do as you wish but it’s probably less stressful to realize that the Suns are likely not going to make playoffs in the incredibly tough West by overcoming these key absences. 3 of their arguably top 4 players are gonna miss 15 games+ (at the very minimum) this season from the looks of it.

This season can still be a success even without making the playoffs and winning 35-40 games.

Maybe it’s “loser mentality” but for me, this is much less stressful and more fun way to watch the games. I don’t have the “Oh their not gonna make playoffs then why even watch” mentality The important thing for me is to see the system that Monty Williams implements and then the progress in the 2 best players, Booker, & Ayton and then seeing what Cam and Jerome can show flashes of in their first season in the league.


A lot of other teams in the West have key injuries too. Warriors, Blazers, Kings, even Pelicans. Next year could get even harder in terms of competition with a bunch of players returning, as well as the Mavs having ample salary cap space though there isn't much of a free agent market this off-season. This season is really the all-in season I see us getting over that hump and making the playoffs, despite the injuries and Ayton being out on suspension. We need to capitalize on the trade market IMO, or just hope everyone meshes well once everyone gets back.


I think we'll be good enough to win 45 games and probably make it in as the 7th or 8th seed. The last 3 losses have been bad, but we've also been injury depleted, and it's not common to have 3 rotation players out at the same time, that would test any teams depth.

What's important to me is what we've learned in those games which is:
1. Cam is a legit player. He's more than just a spot up shooter and should be in line for more minutes.
2. Okobo looks like he could be a better option than either Johnson or Carter at the backup point, but need to see a larger sample
3. We are thinner than we thought on the frontline because Saric and Kaminsky don't play like bigs

If we can get Baynes and Rubio back soon, and then add Ayton into the mix, we should be fine.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1543 » by Crives » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:54 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
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Crives wrote:At least the kings/spurs are losing tonight

You may do as you wish but it’s probably less stressful to realize that the Suns are likely not going to make playoffs in the incredibly tough West by overcoming these key absences. 3 of their arguably top 4 players are gonna miss 15 games+ (at the very minimum) this season from the looks of it.

This season can still be a success even without making the playoffs and winning 35-40 games.

Maybe it’s “loser mentality” but for me, this is much less stressful and more fun way to watch the games. I don’t have the “Oh their not gonna make playoffs then why even watch” mentality The important thing for me is to see the system that Monty Williams implements and then the progress in the 2 best players, Booker, & Ayton and then seeing what Cam and Jerome can show flashes of in their first season in the league.


A lot of other teams in the West have key injuries too. Warriors, Blazers, Kings, even Pelicans. Next year could get even harder in terms of competition with a bunch of players returning, as well as the Mavs having ample salary cap space though there isn't much of a free agent market this off-season. This season is really the all-in season I see us getting over that hump and making the playoffs, despite the injuries and Ayton being out on suspension. We need to capitalize on the trade market IMO, or just hope everyone meshes well once everyone gets back.


I mean, if we lose tonight we will have a losing record and still be in 8th... first time I can remember a losing record getting you to 8th in the west. It’s not going to take 50 wins to get into the playoffs

It looks like to Kings/Pelicans will be our main competition to make to playoffs... really unfortunate we just lost to both... but both of those teams have major injuries and we can definitely finish ahead of them.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1544 » by KLEON » Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:01 pm

The Suns should sign the Manimal. How the hell he's not in the league?
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1545 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:03 pm

Any thoughts about trading Tyler Johnson (expiring) for Tristan Thompson ( expiring)?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=vwett78 .

Yes, they're both expirings, But at least Tristan Thompson could help shore up our rebounding and interior defense for now. And again, He's still an expiring, So he wouldn't affect any long term plans with respect to our cap space. Also he has been hitting on around 42% of his threes over the last 10 games or so. Cleveland meanwhile doesn't really have any veteran presence at the two guard and also wouldn't lose any cap flexibility in the trade. It's really just an expiring for an expiring that could benefit both team's roster issues for this season. So could Thompson provide for us what Saric and Kaminsky cannot ? And could he possibly be a nice compliment ( option next to a returning Ayton and Baynes( eventually)????
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1546 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:32 pm

Crives wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
Revived wrote:You may do as you wish but it’s probably less stressful to realize that the Suns are likely not going to make playoffs in the incredibly tough West by overcoming these key absences. 3 of their arguably top 4 players are gonna miss 15 games+ (at the very minimum) this season from the looks of it.

This season can still be a success even without making the playoffs and winning 35-40 games.

Maybe it’s “loser mentality” but for me, this is much less stressful and more fun way to watch the games. I don’t have the “Oh their not gonna make playoffs then why even watch” mentality The important thing for me is to see the system that Monty Williams implements and then the progress in the 2 best players, Booker, & Ayton and then seeing what Cam and Jerome can show flashes of in their first season in the league.


A lot of other teams in the West have key injuries too. Warriors, Blazers, Kings, even Pelicans. Next year could get even harder in terms of competition with a bunch of players returning, as well as the Mavs having ample salary cap space though there isn't much of a free agent market this off-season. This season is really the all-in season I see us getting over that hump and making the playoffs, despite the injuries and Ayton being out on suspension. We need to capitalize on the trade market IMO, or just hope everyone meshes well once everyone gets back.


I mean, if we lose tonight we will have a losing record and still be in 8th... first time I can remember a losing record getting you to 8th in the west. It’s not going to take 50 wins to get into the playoffs

It looks like to Kings/Pelicans will be our main competition to make to playoffs... really unfortunate we just lost to both... but both of those teams have major injuries and we can definitely finish ahead of them.


Yeah, it was projected that low to mid 40s would get you in this year because of how tough the west is, and even the top teams wouldn't have as many wins as usual top teams do.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1547 » by Crives » Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:46 pm

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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1548 » by Revived » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:49 pm

Based on the injury designation that he has (hip flexor strain), I’d be really surprised if Baynes returned before Ayton comes back from suspension.

My guess is that Rubio has a good chance of returning within just a few games though.

But a big man rotation of Frank Kaminsky and Cheick Diallo isn’t good enough against most teams.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1549 » by Dual » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:52 pm

I Google this:
The types of strain on the hip flexor can range from grade 1 which is not too serious up until grade 3. Expected recovery time is usually: 7 to 14 days (two weeks).
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1550 » by hollywood6964 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:58 pm

Revived wrote:Based on the injury designation that he has (hip flexor strain), I’d be really surprised if Baynes returned before Ayton comes back from suspension.

My guess is that Rubio has a good chance of returning within just a few games though.

But a big man rotation of Frank Kaminsky and Cheick Diallo isn’t good enough against most teams.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather start diallo at center. I've seen wnba players tougher than kaminsky.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1551 » by Sunlight » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:43 pm

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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1552 » by Revived » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:46 pm

Baynes ruled out tomorrow against Denver as well.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1553 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:43 pm

Hollinger: With these Phoenix Suns, there are reasons to toss aside the usual doom-and-gloom skepticism

.........

Look closer at the Suns through 14 games and their warts seem minor relative to those of much of their competition. Phoenix has played one of the league’s more difficult schedules to date and outscored its opponents by over 4.0 points per game. The Suns have defeated both the Clippers and Sixers, have four double-digit wins, and rank in the top half of the league in both Offensive and Defensive Efficiency. Three-point luck, a primary driver of early-season variance, doesn’t suggest the Suns have been disproportionately fortunate.

Overall, nothing looks particularly bizarre or fluky about what they’ve done, other than stretches of insane overachievement from Baynes. After an offseason that added Rubio, Baynes, Frank Kaminsky, Dario Saric and Cameron Johnson, a fully stocked Suns roster goes 10-deep with rotation-caliber quality. Phoenix has length on the wings with Kelly Oubre and Mikal Bridges, stretch shooting with Johnson, Kaminsky and Baynes, and an all-star caliber scorer in Devin Booker. Why wouldn’t it have a decent team? (Virginia homer note: All this and they’ve yet to unleash Ty Jerome on the league!)

Looking ahead, if the Suns can just tread water to the beginning of January, a Charmin-soft month of schedule offers the opportunity to build a margin over their rivals … you know, the ones that are already behind them.

.........

Playing with a real point guard, shooting guard Devin Booker seems transformed. Statistically, you can point to a higher 3-point percentage and a lower shooting rate as a sign of his maturity. He’s taking fewer shots but better ones and scoring nearly the same amount overall (24.9 ppg vs. 26.2 ppg a year ago), but with a 65.9 True Shooting mark that blows away his 55.8 career mark.

But also, refer back to the eye test here. Gone are the 40-foot YOLO chucks and the extended sequences of defensive indifference; it can be almost jarring at times to see Booker actually deny his man the basketball on the wing. He still doesn’t rebound and he’ll never make the All-Defense team, but he doesn’t have to – if he just stays solid, the talent around him will cause enough mayhem to get stops while he fills it up at the other end.

........

For a less statistically tangible but more readily apparent reason to believe in this year’s Suns, look to Williams. Sources say he is as good a culture-setter as there is in the league. While his Xs and Os have not always blown people away, the fit here could not be more perfect – taking over a young team that lacked discipline and molding it into a vastly more professional outfit.

Williams also filled out his staff with a well-respected group — Phoenix lured rising star Darko Rajakovic from Oklahoma City (full disclosure – we tried to hire him on our staff in Memphis), brought veteran assistant Randy Ayers with him from Philly, and added gritty former players such as Steve Blake and Willie Green.

You could see Williams’ impact more when things were going badly on Tuesday in Sacramento. The Suns trailed by 26 in the second half after Rubio had to cut short his evening due to back spasms. (Watching his labored attempt to get through warm-ups, I’m amazed he played at all). Rather than wave the white flag on defense or splinter into a competition to see who could take the worst shot – a common sight a year ago – the Suns kept battling and nearly stole it, cutting the Kings’ lead to three in the final seconds before running out of time.

Williams lamented the Sun’s lapses in Thursday’s loss to the Pelicans, especially the start of the second half when New Orleans made 10 straight shots to regain control of the game.

“To not have the discipline and urgency to start both halves, especially the third,” said Williams, “That’s something (where) you don’t scheme for that … we weren’t locked into the game.”

But the bigger picture for these Suns over the first 14 games is the opposite: They have been locked in and focused, especially when Baynes has done his Superman routine. It remains to be seen if they can fight off their recent history and stay on this path for 68 more games. But through one month they’re on the right track, and a little three-game losing streak and some spilled sewage shouldn’t distract us from that.


From John Hollinger at The Athletic...there was a lot more where I put ......... but cut some out to make it shorter. Though I shouldn't post that much paid content here either, so if you haven't signed up, their content is well worth it.

Though I can see why some feel it is dumb to pay for a subscription, I used to pay for newspapers and stuff back in the day, so it's not anything new to me...and far cheaper than it was back then.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1554 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:07 pm

hollywood6964 wrote:
Revived wrote:Based on the injury designation that he has (hip flexor strain), I’d be really surprised if Baynes returned before Ayton comes back from suspension.

My guess is that Rubio has a good chance of returning within just a few games though.

But a big man rotation of Frank Kaminsky and Cheick Diallo isn’t good enough against most teams.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather start diallo at center. I've seen wnba players tougher than kaminsky.


I definitely think Diallo should get some time. Kaminsky was impressive earlier in the season...winning polls for player people were most surprised by. Obviously the players have changed since and Kaminsky was a 4 year senior while Towns was freshman, but Kaminsky led an inferior team to knock out a giant undefeated team in the final four....and played better than Towns...so they do have a little rivalry (though it also might fire up Towns more when he plays him).

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2015-04-04-kentucky.html
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1555 » by Qwigglez » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:53 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Spoiler:
Hollinger: With these Phoenix Suns, there are reasons to toss aside the usual doom-and-gloom skepticism

.........

Look closer at the Suns through 14 games and their warts seem minor relative to those of much of their competition. Phoenix has played one of the league’s more difficult schedules to date and outscored its opponents by over 4.0 points per game. The Suns have defeated both the Clippers and Sixers, have four double-digit wins, and rank in the top half of the league in both Offensive and Defensive Efficiency. Three-point luck, a primary driver of early-season variance, doesn’t suggest the Suns have been disproportionately fortunate.

Overall, nothing looks particularly bizarre or fluky about what they’ve done, other than stretches of insane overachievement from Baynes. After an offseason that added Rubio, Baynes, Frank Kaminsky, Dario Saric and Cameron Johnson, a fully stocked Suns roster goes 10-deep with rotation-caliber quality. Phoenix has length on the wings with Kelly Oubre and Mikal Bridges, stretch shooting with Johnson, Kaminsky and Baynes, and an all-star caliber scorer in Devin Booker. Why wouldn’t it have a decent team? (Virginia homer note: All this and they’ve yet to unleash Ty Jerome on the league!)

Looking ahead, if the Suns can just tread water to the beginning of January, a Charmin-soft month of schedule offers the opportunity to build a margin over their rivals … you know, the ones that are already behind them.

.........

Playing with a real point guard, shooting guard Devin Booker seems transformed. Statistically, you can point to a higher 3-point percentage and a lower shooting rate as a sign of his maturity. He’s taking fewer shots but better ones and scoring nearly the same amount overall (24.9 ppg vs. 26.2 ppg a year ago), but with a 65.9 True Shooting mark that blows away his 55.8 career mark.

But also, refer back to the eye test here. Gone are the 40-foot YOLO chucks and the extended sequences of defensive indifference; it can be almost jarring at times to see Booker actually deny his man the basketball on the wing. He still doesn’t rebound and he’ll never make the All-Defense team, but he doesn’t have to – if he just stays solid, the talent around him will cause enough mayhem to get stops while he fills it up at the other end.

........

For a less statistically tangible but more readily apparent reason to believe in this year’s Suns, look to Williams. Sources say he is as good a culture-setter as there is in the league. While his Xs and Os have not always blown people away, the fit here could not be more perfect – taking over a young team that lacked discipline and molding it into a vastly more professional outfit.

Williams also filled out his staff with a well-respected group — Phoenix lured rising star Darko Rajakovic from Oklahoma City (full disclosure – we tried to hire him on our staff in Memphis), brought veteran assistant Randy Ayers with him from Philly, and added gritty former players such as Steve Blake and Willie Green.

You could see Williams’ impact more when things were going badly on Tuesday in Sacramento. The Suns trailed by 26 in the second half after Rubio had to cut short his evening due to back spasms. (Watching his labored attempt to get through warm-ups, I’m amazed he played at all). Rather than wave the white flag on defense or splinter into a competition to see who could take the worst shot – a common sight a year ago – the Suns kept battling and nearly stole it, cutting the Kings’ lead to three in the final seconds before running out of time.

Williams lamented the Sun’s lapses in Thursday’s loss to the Pelicans, especially the start of the second half when New Orleans made 10 straight shots to regain control of the game.

“To not have the discipline and urgency to start both halves, especially the third,” said Williams, “That’s something (where) you don’t scheme for that … we weren’t locked into the game.”

But the bigger picture for these Suns over the first 14 games is the opposite: They have been locked in and focused, especially when Baynes has done his Superman routine. It remains to be seen if they can fight off their recent history and stay on this path for 68 more games. But through one month they’re on the right track, and a little three-game losing streak and some spilled sewage shouldn’t distract us from that.


From John Hollinger at The Athletic...there was a lot more where I put ......... but cut some out to make it shorter. Though I shouldn't post that much paid content here either, so if you haven't signed up, their content is well worth it.

Though I can see why some feel it is dumb to pay for a subscription, I used to pay for newspapers and stuff back in the day, so it's not anything new to me...and far cheaper than it was back then.


You are also helping save the planet by not having newspapers and just reading online. Go you! :D :)

I also have a subscription to the Athletic yet hardly use it, but I think it's yearly and ends in December, probably automatically resubscribes me. I check on the Suns stuff maybe once every week or two. I have to say it's a lot better quality than anything else out there. Definitely better than ESPN Insider, which I have never subbed to, but have seen people post their stuff and I gotta say I wasn't impressed.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1556 » by suns12345 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:53 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Hollinger: With these Phoenix Suns, there are reasons to toss aside the usual doom-and-gloom skepticism

.........

Look closer at the Suns through 14 games and their warts seem minor relative to those of much of their competition. Phoenix has played one of the league’s more difficult schedules to date and outscored its opponents by over 4.0 points per game. The Suns have defeated both the Clippers and Sixers, have four double-digit wins, and rank in the top half of the league in both Offensive and Defensive Efficiency. Three-point luck, a primary driver of early-season variance, doesn’t suggest the Suns have been disproportionately fortunate.

Overall, nothing looks particularly bizarre or fluky about what they’ve done, other than stretches of insane overachievement from Baynes. After an offseason that added Rubio, Baynes, Frank Kaminsky, Dario Saric and Cameron Johnson, a fully stocked Suns roster goes 10-deep with rotation-caliber quality. Phoenix has length on the wings with Kelly Oubre and Mikal Bridges, stretch shooting with Johnson, Kaminsky and Baynes, and an all-star caliber scorer in Devin Booker. Why wouldn’t it have a decent team? (Virginia homer note: All this and they’ve yet to unleash Ty Jerome on the league!)

Looking ahead, if the Suns can just tread water to the beginning of January, a Charmin-soft month of schedule offers the opportunity to build a margin over their rivals … you know, the ones that are already behind them.

.........

Playing with a real point guard, shooting guard Devin Booker seems transformed. Statistically, you can point to a higher 3-point percentage and a lower shooting rate as a sign of his maturity. He’s taking fewer shots but better ones and scoring nearly the same amount overall (24.9 ppg vs. 26.2 ppg a year ago), but with a 65.9 True Shooting mark that blows away his 55.8 career mark.

But also, refer back to the eye test here. Gone are the 40-foot YOLO chucks and the extended sequences of defensive indifference; it can be almost jarring at times to see Booker actually deny his man the basketball on the wing. He still doesn’t rebound and he’ll never make the All-Defense team, but he doesn’t have to – if he just stays solid, the talent around him will cause enough mayhem to get stops while he fills it up at the other end.

........

For a less statistically tangible but more readily apparent reason to believe in this year’s Suns, look to Williams. Sources say he is as good a culture-setter as there is in the league. While his Xs and Os have not always blown people away, the fit here could not be more perfect – taking over a young team that lacked discipline and molding it into a vastly more professional outfit.

Williams also filled out his staff with a well-respected group — Phoenix lured rising star Darko Rajakovic from Oklahoma City (full disclosure – we tried to hire him on our staff in Memphis), brought veteran assistant Randy Ayers with him from Philly, and added gritty former players such as Steve Blake and Willie Green.

You could see Williams’ impact more when things were going badly on Tuesday in Sacramento. The Suns trailed by 26 in the second half after Rubio had to cut short his evening due to back spasms. (Watching his labored attempt to get through warm-ups, I’m amazed he played at all). Rather than wave the white flag on defense or splinter into a competition to see who could take the worst shot – a common sight a year ago – the Suns kept battling and nearly stole it, cutting the Kings’ lead to three in the final seconds before running out of time.

Williams lamented the Sun’s lapses in Thursday’s loss to the Pelicans, especially the start of the second half when New Orleans made 10 straight shots to regain control of the game.

“To not have the discipline and urgency to start both halves, especially the third,” said Williams, “That’s something (where) you don’t scheme for that … we weren’t locked into the game.”

But the bigger picture for these Suns over the first 14 games is the opposite: They have been locked in and focused, especially when Baynes has done his Superman routine. It remains to be seen if they can fight off their recent history and stay on this path for 68 more games. But through one month they’re on the right track, and a little three-game losing streak and some spilled sewage shouldn’t distract us from that.


From John Hollinger at The Athletic...there was a lot more where I put ......... but cut some out to make it shorter. Though I shouldn't post that much paid content here either, so if you haven't signed up, their content is well worth it.

Though I can see why some feel it is dumb to pay for a subscription, I used to pay for newspapers and stuff back in the day, so it's not anything new to me...and far cheaper than it was back then.


Thanks BW. Great read

Really appreciate the snippets you post. I spent $300 on league pass so thought that was enough basketball spending lol
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Post#1557 » by Mr Puddles » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:40 pm

Is it me or is our front office more silent about injury returns than other front offices.

I haven't heard anything timeline wise about Rubio, Baynes, or Jerome other than Rubio apparently being a game time decision every game.
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Post#1558 » by KLEON » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:50 pm

Mr Puddles wrote:Is it me or is our front office more silent about injury returns than other front offices.

I haven't heard anything timeline wise about Rubio, Baynes, or Jerome other than Rubio apparently being a game time decision every game.

We desperately need him
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Post#1559 » by Dual » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:54 pm

I heard Jerome is already playing 3vs3 and will do 5vs5 too, so maybe he is only few games away from playing.
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Post#1560 » by bwgood77 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:42 pm

Mr Puddles wrote:Is it me or is our front office more silent about injury returns than other front offices.

I haven't heard anything timeline wise about Rubio, Baynes, or Jerome other than Rubio apparently being a game time decision every game.


I don't know that they are allowed to say much if the player doesn't want them to due to HIPPA privacy rules, but we do know Baynes has a Hip Flexor strain, which,
A mild strain can take a few weeks to heal. But a severe strain can take six weeks or more to heal, according to Summit Medical Group. Failing to rest and recover a hip flexor strain usually only results in a worse injury and greater pain at a later time.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hip+flexor+strain+injury+time+to+heal&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS823US824&oq=hip+flexor+strain+injury+tim&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j33l5.12429j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Not sure about Jerome but obviously he doesn't seem to return soon. Rubio should be more day to day if it is b2b. I think he may have been almost ready watching him in drills, but maybe they thought waiting until the 2nd night of a b2b would give him another 27 hours.

Though I can also see holding him out until Wednesday since that's another 3 day rest. Back spasms is usually 1-2 weeks, so Wednesday may be more realistic.

The good thing is Okobo is getting some really good experience, and Diallo is starting to as well.

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