The One And Only Offseason Thread 4

[phrazbit]

Did you do it in a game as well?

No, I was biking, but same principal. It was gruesome, gross and horribly painful. I can also confirm what others have said about how adrenaline and shock make you numb to it pretty quick... but that wears off, but hopefully not before the morphine kicks in.

I've broken my tib fib once... and I broke my femur/tib on a separate occasion. Femur pain is so bad that I was oblivious to the tib fracture. In the femur break I also hurt my knee, and thats why I know from expirience... The bones mended in about two months, the muscles were strong enough to feel somewhat normal (not play in an NBA game but walk around without discomfort) about a month later, while the knee took forever.

Dude, that sounds horrible. Were both fractures from biking?

Yeah, the first one I was younger and just riding around with friends, racing, nice collision, down I went. The second time I was riding around Squaw Peak starter to wipe out and very foolishly thought I could save myself some minor cuts and scrapes by throwing all my weight onto one leg while in the process of rolling over it...

[Jdiddy701]

I don't understand why the Suns are the only team on NBA Store.com that doesn't sell authentic jerseys.

[drewsprocket]

How much cap space do the Pacers have?
They're gonna need it bad because their whole offense was built around George. I'm not sure Bled is there guy but who else is there?

[bwgood77]

How much cap space do the Pacers have?
They're gonna need it bad because their whole offense was built around George. I'm not sure Bled is there guy but who else is there?

I don't think they really have any other than the disabled player exception they now get that is somewhere between 5 and 6 million. I'm not sure how many unrestricted free agents are left that are worth that who can make an impact.

[BurningHeart]

Good move by Sarver. Make the organization look better. If Bledsoe/Paul are going to be the dicks, let them be the dicks.

[dgwdum]

Markieff and Marcus in the gym again today. Just FYI.


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I would hope so! Pay me millions for a career and I would be in gym 5 hours a day with a strength/conditioning coach and 3 hours a day getting treatment

I hate when poor people make this argument as to why players have it great given how much they get paid. no one wants to be in a gym and around trainers for 8 straight hours every day. Players have lives outside of BB if they didn't then money wouldn't even matter.

[Kerrsed]

I don't understand why the Suns are the only team on NBA Store.com that doesn't sell authentic jerseys.

Speaking of which:

The NBA store has discontinued Andrew Wiggins' Cavs jersey.

[MrMiyagi]

Markieff and Marcus in the gym again today. Just FYI.


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I would hope so! Pay me millions for a career and I would be in gym 5 hours a day with a strength/conditioning coach and 3 hours a day getting treatment

I hate when poor people make this argument as to why players have it great given how much they get paid. no one wants to be in a gym and around trainers for 8 straight hours every day. Players have lives outside of BB if they didn't then money wouldn't even matter.

Not to mention all the work they put in just to have the opportunity to make all that money in the first place. It's not like these guys just got approached out of the blue and were asked to play professionally. They put serious time into their game since before they were in high school, many since they could actually handle a ball. And even then there was no guarantee they would get payed millions of dollars.

[Jdiddy701]

All I was meaning by it is that Morris twins are the true definition of a professional player(s). A lot of players are in it for the money and cash out. If 75% of the league was like that than the league would be even more amazing.

It's no surprise why the Suns were successful last season, because they have players that will put the effort in the gym. Plumlee, Tucker, Morris Twins, Dragic always in the gym. I love it. Adding Isaiah Thomas will add to the hard work.

Bledsoe you're my guy but take some notes.

My only knock on players these days are not working out with your teammates. I mean if I were on the Suns I would work out with my teammates in the offseason. Not a big deal but I've always wondered why players work out with their opponents.

[Sunsdeuce]

All I was meaning by it is that Morris twins are the true definition of a professional player(s). A lot of players are in it for the money and cash out. If 75% of the league was like that than the league would be even more amazing.

It's no surprise why the Suns were successful last season, because they have players that will put the effort in the gym. Plumlee, Tucker, Morris Twins, Dragic always in the gym. I love it. Bledsoe take some notes.

Speaking of the Morris twins, what amount of money is it going to take to keep both or just markeiff? They are free agents next year.


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[Jdiddy701]

All I was meaning by it is that Morris twins are the true definition of a professional player(s). A lot of players are in it for the money and cash out. If 75% of the league was like that than the league would be even more amazing.

It's no surprise why the Suns were successful last season, because they have players that will put the effort in the gym. Plumlee, Tucker, Morris Twins, Dragic always in the gym. I love it. Bledsoe take some notes.

Speaking of the Morris twins, what amount of money is it going to take to keep both or just markeiff? They are free agents next year.


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I think Markieff is good for 5-7 mil a year. Marcus 4 mil a year.

Markieff 24 mil, 4 years.
Marcus 16 mil, 4 years.

I don't think the Suns will let them go in free agency and don't think they want to play anywhere else. May think it's a lot for Marcus but we'll get Markieff for cheap if we keep his brother.

Can't talk enough about their chemistry with the team. Seems like them and Tucker keep the team together.

[Jdiddy701]

Another thing that bothers me is how Goran is not the best leader and Bledsoe. I wish they would be more vocal. We shall see. You guys think Goran is but I don't agree. Seems like he gets more mad than leading.

[Sunsdeuce]

Another thing that bothers me is how Goran is not the best leader and Bledsoe. I wish they would be more vocal. We shall see. You guys think Goran is but I don't agree. Seems like he gets more mad than leading.

I think there is still alittle language barrier with goran and other players. But the way he lays his body on the line each night, is a huge trait of a leader. He he get eight stitches one night but he will right back on the floor the next night. He simply loves the game.


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[Jdiddy701]

I do agree his play makes him somewhat a leader, but Nash/Grant would huddle the team when needed and talk between timeouts with them about plays and adjustments. I don't see Dragic ever doing that. Morris, Tucker do all that.

[SunsFanSSOL]

All I was meaning by it is that Morris twins are the true definition of a professional player(s). A lot of players are in it for the money and cash out. If 75% of the league was like that than the league would be even more amazing.

It's no surprise why the Suns were successful last season, because they have players that will put the effort in the gym. Plumlee, Tucker, Morris Twins, Dragic always in the gym. I love it. Bledsoe take some notes.

Speaking of the Morris twins, what amount of money is it going to take to keep both or just markeiff? They are free agents next year.


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I think Markieff is good for 5-7 mil a year. Marcus 4 mil a year.

Markieff 24 mil, 4 years.
Marcus 16 mil, 4 years.

I don't think the Suns will let them go in free agency and don't think they want to play anywhere else. May think it's a lot for Marcus but we'll get Markieff for cheap if we keep his brother.

Can't talk enough about their chemistry with the team. Seems like them and Tucker keep the team together.

I could see some team throwing $8-9m at Markieff. Look at what Frye got, and he's much worse than Markieff. Markieff had a good season last year and he's still young. Next season he'll step up as a starter with Frye gone so his production should increase. It'll probably take something like 4/36 to keep him, but I think he'll take a discount in order to stay here with Marcus, who will probably get around $5-6m/year.

[King4Day]

I don't understand why the Suns are the only team on NBA Store.com that doesn't sell authentic jerseys.

Speaking of which:

The NBA store has discontinued Andrew Wiggins' Cavs jersey.

Intentional or not, the Cavs signing him gets a bit of merch sales until he's dealt.

[Fo-Real]

Gerald Green took to doing that also during the season.

[Jdiddy701]

The thing with Morris Twins, they don't strike me as I know I could go more money somewhere else so I am going to explore type of players. They don't want to go anywhere else. Also, see them the type of players as they will take less if it means having a better team and keeping them together.

G.Green is the one I am worried bout leaving. I think his play is very important off the bench. Can the Suns extend them 3 now or do they have to wait? Anybody know?

[SunsFanSSOL]

The thing with Morris Twins, they don't strike me as I know I could go more money somewhere else so I am going to explore type of players. They don't want to go anywhere else. Also, see them the type of players as they will take less if it means having a better team and keeping them together.

G.Green is the one I am worried bout leaving. I think his play is very important off the bench. Can the Suns extend them 3 now or do they have to wait? Anybody know?

I think the Suns will let Gerald walk after some team offers him something like 4/24. I love the guy but it doesn't make sense to keep him when we have Marcus and TJ at SF and PJ and Archie at SG. I think Isaiah was sorta signed to replace his bench production in the future.

[Suns Court 23]

The thing with Morris Twins, they don't strike me as I know I could go more money somewhere else so I am going to explore type of players. They don't want to go anywhere else. Also, see them the type of players as they will take less if it means having a better team and keeping them together.

G.Green is the one I am worried bout leaving. I think his play is very important off the bench. Can the Suns extend them 3 now or do they have to wait? Anybody know?

I think the Suns will let Gerald walk after some team offers him something like 4/24. I love the guy but it doesn't make sense to keep him when he have Marcus and TJ at SF and PJ and Archie at SG. I think Isaiah was sorta signed to replace his bench production in the future.

As much as I love Green, I have to agree. He is 29 or 30 and if we give him a 4 year contract, he won't be worth it the last couple years IMO. I think his athleticism won't be there like it is now and besides shooting that's all he has, plus I want Archie to get playing time at shooting guard and TJ time at small forward since I believe they are big pieces to our future.