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[bwgood77]

Nothing new in Dallas since Luka got there. Clearing the house again. The irony is Luka was supposed to be this great player who makes everyone around him better, while DA and Trae are not winning type players. At least that's what his stans told me in our rookie season debates. Well, DA and Trae have the chance to go at each other in the finals while Luka watches from home. Will be interesting to see what team they build around him when his 40m/year contract kicks in.

Gambo mentioned predraft that players didn't like Luka. People vilify Gambo for that. It looks like Gambo was right all along. Luka is a straight up diva. Can't get along with their second best player. Can't get along with one of the best coach in the game. Can't get along with the front office. Allegedly Divac didn't draft him on the Kings because he was too much like his dad: a hot head.

Say what you will about DA, but DA is a team player first. DA loves Monty

I don't think this was a Luka thing, he seemed to like Nelson.

I think this is a Cuban thing and he's got a little mess on his hands behind the scenes.

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Yeah, there was a headline that said something like he was disappointed to see Donnie Nelson go, not that I ever put any credence into that "anonymous scout" anyway.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Gambo mentioned predraft that players didn't like Luka. People vilify Gambo for that. It looks like Gambo was right all along. Luka is a straight up diva. Can't get along with their second best player. Can't get along with one of the best coach in the game. Can't get along with the front office. Allegedly Divac didn't draft him on the Kings because he was too much like his dad: a hot head.

Say what you will about DA, but DA is a team player first. DA loves Monty

I don't think this was a Luka thing, he seemed to like Nelson.

I think this is a Cuban thing and he's got a little mess on his hands behind the scenes.

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Yeah, there was a headline that said something like he was disappointed to see Donnie Nelson go, not that I ever put any credence into that "anonymous scout" anyway.

Now I should clarify I do think Luka and Carlisle had some issues. Some could be Luka but Carlisle also isn't the easiest guy to get along with.

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[lilfishi22]

KP also sucked majorly and has been a non-factor on both ends of the court but he's still calling for more touches etc. Winning cures all and you could argue it's winning (winning record anyway) is what kept that group together and it's why they've been patient. But this 1st round exit is just a big step back for them and someone had to go.

I don't know much about Nelson's story about losing influence (aside from what's been told) but I think he and Rick saw the writing on the wall. Aside from the sexual misconduct cases and other unsavoury going-ons in that front office, I think it's just something that's been brewing for a while. The hiring of that gambling into such a high ranking position definitely didn't help the situation.

To put this on Luka would be like saying the goat in McD's office was because of Booker.

[MrMiyagi]

I mean, Carlisle has a pretty solid coaching resume and there are a lot of open positions with great players. If he gets the sense things will be turbulent in Dallas next season, why not save himself the headache?

Luka-Porzingis relations are tense, and that was my worry with a potential Luka-Booker backcourt, especially given we had Luka's national team Head Coach and Booker being the established NBA player.

I don't think Luka is necessarily the source of the turmoil in Dallas, but it seems like all parties involved have issues with each other in some capacity and I'm not sure what moves are available to Dallas to get better and resolve some of these issues.

[RunDogGun]

Lets go Bucks! Game seven for all series but Suns!

[bwgood77]

I don't think this was a Luka thing, he seemed to like Nelson.

I think this is a Cuban thing and he's got a little mess on his hands behind the scenes.

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Yeah, there was a headline that said something like he was disappointed to see Donnie Nelson go, not that I ever put any credence into that "anonymous scout" anyway.

Now I should clarify I do think Luka and Carlisle had some issues. Some could be Luka but Carlisle also isn't the easiest guy to get along with.

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Yeah, but at some point coaches move on...and yes, lots of players haven't liked him even though he's a solid coach. At some point a change is needed. But your GoT tweet is interesting...is Donnie really going because of Voulgaris?

BobbieL mentioned Carlisle to Boston..that seems like a really good fit, though I wouldn't be surprised if Stevens wants a young up n coming college guy like he was.

It would be very interesting to see D'Antoni coach Luka...not sure that would happen though either.

[bwgood77]

KP also sucked majorly and has been a non-factor on both ends of the court but he's still calling for more touches etc. Winning cures all and you could argue it's winning (winning record anyway) is what kept that group together and it's why they've been patient. But this 1st round exit is just a big step back for them and someone had to go.

I don't know much about Nelson's story about losing influence (aside from what's been told) but I think he and Rick saw the writing on the wall. Aside from the sexual misconduct cases and other unsavoury going-ons in that front office, I think it's just something that's been brewing for a while. The hiring of that gambling into such a high ranking position definitely didn't help the situation.

To put this on Luka would be like saying the goat in McD's office was because of Booker.

Yeah, KP has had problems whereever...obviously has a huge ego and has declined signficantly. I'd be pretty pissed that the team is wasting so much money on him too, and top of that the fact that he is complaining.

[spanishninja]

So it looks like the Bucks managed to pretty convincingly win Game 6 despite a good game from KD. Do we have hope that Jazz will force game 7 too?

[lilfishi22]

Yeah, there was a headline that said something like he was disappointed to see Donnie Nelson go, not that I ever put any credence into that "anonymous scout" anyway.

Now I should clarify I do think Luka and Carlisle had some issues. Some could be Luka but Carlisle also isn't the easiest guy to get along with.

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Yeah, but at some point coaches move on...and yes, lots of players haven't liked him even though he's a solid coach. At some point a change is needed. But your GoT tweet is interesting...is Donnie really going because of Voulgaris?

BobbieL mentioned Carlisle to Boston..that seems like a really good fit, though I wouldn't be surprised if Stevens wants a young up n coming college guy like he was.

It would be very interesting to see D'Antoni coach Luka...not sure that would happen though either.

You feel like D'Antoni's style is limited? He got pretty far with Houston and had some bad luck but I feel like he just goes to a place, implements his high octane offense and hopes for the best defensively. His teams have never been good defensively unless he already has some good individual defenders on it. It's exciting and I would've like to see him coach Simmons and certainly Luka but I just feel like he's a bit overrated these days.

[bwgood77]

Now I should clarify I do think Luka and Carlisle had some issues. Some could be Luka but Carlisle also isn't the easiest guy to get along with.

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Yeah, but at some point coaches move on...and yes, lots of players haven't liked him even though he's a solid coach. At some point a change is needed. But your GoT tweet is interesting...is Donnie really going because of Voulgaris?

BobbieL mentioned Carlisle to Boston..that seems like a really good fit, though I wouldn't be surprised if Stevens wants a young up n coming college guy like he was.

It would be very interesting to see D'Antoni coach Luka...not sure that would happen though either.

You feel like D'Antoni's style is limited? He got pretty far with Houston and had some bad luck but I feel like he just goes to a place, implements his high octane offense and hopes for the best defensively. His teams have never been good defensively unless he already has some good individual defenders on it. It's exciting and I would've like to see him coach Simmons and certainly Luka but I just feel like he's a bit overrated these days.

I don't know if he has changed his system much or how he has evolved as a coach. I know he is good at empowering all the players on the team to play fearlessly. I did feel like in Houston Harden is a guy that probably is hard to coach and kind of plays how he wants, and Luka is probably very similar, so he'd have to live with that again, but any coach probably would have to. I do think if he ran the Suns SSOL spread offense with Luka in the Nash role it would probably be exciting, though of course Luka likes to iso quite a bit too.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Yeah, there was a headline that said something like he was disappointed to see Donnie Nelson go, not that I ever put any credence into that "anonymous scout" anyway.

Now I should clarify I do think Luka and Carlisle had some issues. Some could be Luka but Carlisle also isn't the easiest guy to get along with.

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Yeah, but at some point coaches move on...and yes, lots of players haven't liked him even though he's a solid coach. At some point a change is needed. But your GoT tweet is interesting...is Donnie really going because of Voulgaris?

BobbieL mentioned Carlisle to Boston..that seems like a really good fit, though I wouldn't be surprised if Stevens wants a young up n coming college guy like he was.

It would be very interesting to see D'Antoni coach Luka...not sure that would happen though either.

Check out the Lowe Post pod, Dave MacMahon on and gives a deep breakdown of the Mavs mess. Highly recommend.

Yeah I think Mike D would be a great coach for Luka.

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[Bogyo]

If I were the Pels I'd trade Zion before his ankles/knees/back blow out becouse of his weight. Right now they could get a really good package for him. Some of the big market teams have good players, some have good draft picks - cash in before he turns into Larry Johnson.

Hey now there will be no grandmama slander on my watch

I loved those UNLV teams as a kid and bought myself a Johnson Hornets jersey after he got drafted.

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No slander at all! I loved the Charlotte team with Zo and him! Appreciated him in NY too - but that type of bulk is just not made for long term basketball. And Grandma was less heavy than Zion iirc...

[BobbieL]

Yeah, but at some point coaches move on...and yes, lots of players haven't liked him even though he's a solid coach. At some point a change is needed. But your GoT tweet is interesting...is Donnie really going because of Voulgaris?

BobbieL mentioned Carlisle to Boston..that seems like a really good fit, though I wouldn't be surprised if Stevens wants a young up n coming college guy like he was.

It would be very interesting to see D'Antoni coach Luka...not sure that would happen though either.

You feel like D'Antoni's style is limited? He got pretty far with Houston and had some bad luck but I feel like he just goes to a place, implements his high octane offense and hopes for the best defensively. His teams have never been good defensively unless he already has some good individual defenders on it. It's exciting and I would've like to see him coach Simmons and certainly Luka but I just feel like he's a bit overrated these days.

I don't know if he has changed his system much or how he has evolved as a coach. I know he is good at empowering all the players on the team to play fearlessly. I did feel like in Houston Harden is a guy that probably is hard to coach and kind of plays how he wants, and Luka is probably very similar, so he'd have to live with that again, but any coach probably would have to. I do think if he ran the Suns SSOL spread offense with Luka in the Nash role it would probably be exciting, though of course Luka likes to iso quite a bit too.

After seeing Harden with the Rockets and seeing CP3 with Houston, OKC and now the Suns - -I think if it had been Harden that got hurt against GSW and not Paul - the Rockets win that series.

Harden - even against the Bucks - is a ball stopper. The other night he got bailed out by Durant making a couple shots at the shot clock. But even with Durant scoring at will, he still slows the ball. And in the playoffs, when a possession or two is critical - I just am not sure he is a winning player. Seeing Paul with OKC and now the Suns - dude is pretty darn good.

But Mike D with Luka -- that would be something. In the realgm blurbs about Stotts and Jason Kidd are mentioned. I thought of Kidd because of his past association with the Mavericks.

The NBA offseason - even though there is ESPN and NFLN just talking a lot - the NBA has the best offseason. As stuff happens - free agency, trades, rumors and speculation.

[bwgood77]

You feel like D'Antoni's style is limited? He got pretty far with Houston and had some bad luck but I feel like he just goes to a place, implements his high octane offense and hopes for the best defensively. His teams have never been good defensively unless he already has some good individual defenders on it. It's exciting and I would've like to see him coach Simmons and certainly Luka but I just feel like he's a bit overrated these days.

I don't know if he has changed his system much or how he has evolved as a coach. I know he is good at empowering all the players on the team to play fearlessly. I did feel like in Houston Harden is a guy that probably is hard to coach and kind of plays how he wants, and Luka is probably very similar, so he'd have to live with that again, but any coach probably would have to. I do think if he ran the Suns SSOL spread offense with Luka in the Nash role it would probably be exciting, though of course Luka likes to iso quite a bit too.

After seeing Harden with the Rockets and seeing CP3 with Houston, OKC and now the Suns - -I think if it had been Harden that got hurt against GSW and not Paul - the Rockets win that series.

Harden - even against the Bucks - is a ball stopper. The other night he got bailed out by Durant making a couple shots at the shot clock. But even with Durant scoring at will, he still slows the ball. And in the playoffs, when a possession or two is critical - I just am not sure he is a winning player. Seeing Paul with OKC and now the Suns - dude is pretty darn good.

But Mike D with Luka -- that would be something. In the realgm blurbs about Stotts and Jason Kidd are mentioned. I thought of Kidd because of his past association with the Mavericks.

The NBA offseason - even though there is ESPN and NFLN just talking a lot - the NBA has the best offseason. As stuff happens - free agency, trades, rumors and speculation.

Yeah, I was thinking that Harden and KD have both been somewhat of chokers in the playoffs, until KD joined that record breaking Warriors team that had a 95% chance of winning anyway. Harden blew the 3-2 lead against the Warriors and KD that 3-1 chance against them...and lost countless other big playoff series on teams with stacked talent. Of course they are great players and got those teams far, but they really had trouble closing teams out as the main guys when they had teams on the ropes.

Now of course when you have enough talent with enough experience like the Nets do, sometimes that can trump all else...but the Bucks are tough. I don't know if Philly or Atlanta will be able to compete with either, though it's always hard to tell with these things, and a lot depends on health.

If it's the Bucks/Sixers instead of OT Simmons and Giannis should have something similar to a Hockey Shootout, and take turns going to the line.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Why does KD keep getting paired with ball pounders? His game is obviously much more well-suited to a squad that moves the ball (a la Golden State, ironically). Westbrook did him no favors, neither does Harden. Heck, even Irving's hogging isn't as egregious.

[Bogyo]

Why does KD keep getting paired with ball pounders? His game is obviously much more well-suited to a squad that moves the ball (a la Golden State, ironically). Westbrook did him no favors, neither does Harden. Heck, even Irving's hogging isn't as egregious.

Some of this is on him. He thinks he is smarter than he really is I think... Plus he want's to play with friends. He is (they are) good enough as is to win a (couple) chips. I'm happy with this - there would be no beating him with a proper fitting team, coach and system around him.

[King4Day]

Saw this on Reddit.
It's a breakdown of who voted for who for the coach of the year award

https://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/46/2021/06/2020-21-NBA-Coach-of-the-Year-Voter-Selections.pdf

[bwgood77]

Saw this on Reddit.
It's a breakdown of who voted for who for the coach of the year award

https://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/46/2021/06/2020-21-NBA-Coach-of-the-Year-Voter-Selections.pdf

SMH at Kevin Pelton and Keith Pompey

[King4Day]

Saw this on Reddit.
It's a breakdown of who voted for who for the coach of the year award

https://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/46/2021/06/2020-21-NBA-Coach-of-the-Year-Voter-Selections.pdf

SMH at Kevin Pelton and Keith Pompey

Wow I missed that. How do they leave him off? That's the epitome of 'this has nothing to do with Monty and everything to do with Paul'. That's a shame

[King4Day]

I'd be lying if I didn't say I saw 'Booker' and was worried it was bad news.
This is exciting though. Suns fans can watch him even more in the summer. Has to be fun for him.

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