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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1581 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 10:49 pm

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There are lies, damn lies and statistics. This is one of those "statistics" that fall into that category. It is worthless.


I don't know if I'd call it worthless, but the list doesn't necessarily mean anything negative. Most of those guys' jobs are to catch and shoot....so what does someone compiling the list expect?


When you create a worthless stat and label the players "checkers" this is negative. It is also complete BS. BWG you are a little to kind to this kind of nonsense. Tutti in Goodfellow's said "we got to toughen this kid up."


Well, my initial thought was that the list was worthless because different players have different roles and some of them are not supposed to pass...they are suppose to get wide open and shoot.

I guess the list, for an avg fan, especially with that title can be terribly misleading. Like, for example, a pg shouldn't be on that list. If he is, he definitely is very likely not a good pg.

So, all in all, I guess you are right, but contextually speaking, it could be useful for someone who knew exactly which players they knew SHOULD NOT be on that list.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1582 » by BobbieL » Wed Jul 2, 2014 10:51 pm

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Qwigglez wrote:It could be a three team deal. Not that I would like it but....
Suns get-
Jeff Green
1st round pick

Pacers get-
Rajon Rondo

Celtics get-
Goran Dragic
Lance Stephenson

That would tarnish the Suns reputation and we would lose customers in free agency I think...

That trade makes no sense. We give up an All-NBA player for Jeff Green?



Geezus I said it makes sense financially!! I couldn't think of any other trade that makes sense logically, lol. UGH! :lol: :lol:


I really don't want Jeff Green - he is overpaid

I would want Paul George but not at the expense of both Bledsoe and Dragic
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1583 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 10:52 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Geezus I said it makes sense financially!! I couldn't think of any other trade that makes sense logically, lol. UGH! :lol: :lol:

You can't put together a trade only on the basis that it works from a basketball sense if the numbers don't match. Similarly, you can't put together a trade purely on the basis that it works financially either, if it makes zero basketball sense.

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1584 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 10:55 pm

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1585 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 10:56 pm

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lilfishi22 wrote:That trade makes no sense. We give up an All-NBA player for Jeff Green?




Geezus I said it makes sense financially!! I couldn't think of any other trade that makes sense logically, lol. UGH! :lol: :lol:


I really don't want Jeff Green - he is overpaid

I would want Paul George but not at the expense of both Bledsoe and Dragic


I think we can all agree that this kind of trade is a joke. Not worth discussing any more. Honestly, I'm not even sure I would want Jeff Green's contract even if we got the pick as the compensation to take it.

So basically, I probably wouldn't want that package for free (as bad as Boston is, if it was unprotected and their first, it might be worth consideration, but only for free). Putting Goran into it is just insulting.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1586 » by King4Day » Wed Jul 2, 2014 10:57 pm

There's nothing on Indy, who they'd trade, that I'd be interested in. Especially for Dragic. Perhaps it would be part of a mega trade for Love?
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1587 » by ShawnBronald » Wed Jul 2, 2014 10:59 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/484471203705675776[/tweet]
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1588 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 10:59 pm

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When you create a worthless stat and label the players "checkers" this is negative. It is also complete BS. BWG you are a little to kind to this kind of nonsense. Tutti in Goodfellow's said "we got to toughen this kid up."


That's a good point. It doesn't state if the guy had an open shot or not. If you get the ball 80 percent of the time while open....then you should shoot it 80 percent of the time!


Of course. TS% is the best # to look at on that list. Green is 2nd.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1589 » by Sunsdeuce » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:00 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/celticscenter/status/484457344340721664[/tweet]
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1590 » by harshey1388 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:05 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/celticscenter/status/484457344340721664[/tweet]
Ok so I sent a tweet to gambo he then immediately tweeted it to these guys, who In turn tweeted this.



They only have 51 followers... I don't tweet but I know that's not credible.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1591 » by Sunsdeuce » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:06 pm

harshey1388 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/celticscenter/status/484457344340721664[/tweet]
Ok so I sent a tweet to gambo he then immediately tweeted it to these guys, who In turn tweeted this.



They only have 51 followers... I don't tweet but I know that's not credible.

I know, I don't understand why gambo tweeted these guys? Head scratching.


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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1592 » by PassWarden » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:06 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/celticscenter/status/484457344340721664[/tweet]
Ok so I sent a tweet to gambo he then immediately tweeted it to these guys, who In turn tweeted this.


That trade sucks serious balls...
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1593 » by King4Day » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:09 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/celticscenter/status/484457344340721664[/tweet]
Ok so I sent a tweet to gambo he then immediately tweeted it to these guys, who In turn tweeted this.

Celtics get Dragic but they aren't certain who the Celtics get. Interesting...

To me, this would make no sense. Why take back a PG who can't shoot for another guard who can? It would hurt us IMO. I really hope this isn't true.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1594 » by King4Day » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:10 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:
harshey1388 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/celticscenter/status/484457344340721664[/tweet]
Ok so I sent a tweet to gambo he then immediately tweeted it to these guys, who In turn tweeted this.



They only have 51 followers... I don't tweet but I know that's not credible.

I know, I don't understand why gambo tweeted these guys? Head scratching.


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Did he delete it? I don't see it on his page. What's the @ alias for Gambo on twitter?
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1595 » by TheXgasm » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:14 pm

Take it for what it is but Chris Broussard just tweeted that the Heat players are not acting in concert with one another

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1596 » by harshey1388 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:14 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
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They only have 51 followers... I don't tweet but I know that's not credible.

I know, I don't understand why gambo tweeted these guys? Head scratching.


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Did he delete it? I don't see it on his page. What's the @ alias for Gambo on twitter?



It's still there. Also its @gambo987
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1597 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:14 pm

That trade is a joke.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1598 » by TheXgasm » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:14 pm

@Chris_Broussard: Sources: Big 3 not acting in concert http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId= ... WT&w=1e5zu via @espnnba

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1599 » by Son of Ra » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:14 pm

Love Rondo, but geez, I want no part in this trade unless we S&T Bledsoe for Love. Bledsoe and Rondo together? I cant see how that would work...
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#1600 » by Sunsdeuce » Wed Jul 2, 2014 11:14 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:
harshey1388 wrote:They only have 51 followers... I don't tweet but I know that's not credible.

I know, I don't understand why gambo tweeted these guys? Head scratching.


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Did he delete it? I don't see it on his page. What's the @ alias for Gambo on twitter?

I wish I knew how to take a picture of my notifications on my twitter app. That is where I see that he retweeted it.
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