The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason

[thamadkant]

Draft Murray and call Bucks and ship Bledsoe for Parker

Would love it, but no way Milwaukee does that deal.

We dont know that..


Most of us said the same thing about Markieff.


We tend to under rate players we dont like... and over rate players we like when it comes to value.

[jredsaz]

We are not going to be the team to massively overpay Deon Waiters, right?

[AtheJ415]

Draft Murray and call Bucks and ship Bledsoe for Parker

Why would they do that? Giannis is basically running the point now. Also Jabari had a nice sophomore season bouncing back from his ACL, he's not another Derrick Williams

I thought you just said they would draft Wade Baldwin? Jabari did NOT have a nice season. He basically really sucked until about the final 15 games where he finally picked it up.

But I don't think there is a chance they do that deal anyway. Bledsoe cannot have much trade value after missing half out of 2 of 3 seasons.

This. I do not understand the fascination with Parker. He has skills but is ineffective thus far, and has shown absolutely nothing at the NBA level to warrant the "future franchise cornerstone" label that many give him. It's just like people claiming Mirotic is an elite shooter.

[MathiasPW]

Memphis is gonna lose their only good guard. Knight needs a new home. Jamychal Green would look good in a Suns uni..

Jamychal Green and Trey Lyles are two young players I'd like us to target at the 4 spot. I feel Lyles is less attainable, though. I remember reading somewhere that the Jazz will be forced to make choices in the next couple of years, because they'll have to throw max contracts at Gobert, Favors and Hayward soon, while also negotiate a fat contract with Hood, while still being unclear what to do at PG, and that team is just not good enough to get them too far.
Lyles is a great promising alternative to Favors.

Jamychal, on the other hand, fits the topical McDonough trade. Young, promising, rather unknown. I'm a little scared of his numbers because his sample size is small, but he certainly looked good when all (and I mean ALL) other bigs for the Grizzlies went down.

It may just be a lateral move though. You can just stick with Leuer for that matter.

[bwgood77]

Why would they do that? Giannis is basically running the point now. Also Jabari had a nice sophomore season bouncing back from his ACL, he's not another Derrick Williams

I thought you just said they would draft Wade Baldwin? Jabari did NOT have a nice season. He basically really sucked until about the final 15 games where he finally picked it up.

But I don't think there is a chance they do that deal anyway. Bledsoe cannot have much trade value after missing half out of 2 of 3 seasons.

This. I do not understand the fascination with Parker. He has skills but is ineffective thus far, and has shown absolutely nothing at the NBA level to warrant the "future franchise cornerstone" label that many give him. It's just like people claiming Mirotic is an elite shooter.

It's mostly just the early hype that people assume he is good. He scores decently, but he didn't even shoot a 3, doesn't get steals or blocks or many rebounds, though he is a decent passer. If he plays PF, he lacks rebounding....and I don't think he is quick enough to play the 3 effectively either.

[saintEscaton]

I thought you just said they would draft Wade Baldwin? Jabari did NOT have a nice season. He basically really sucked until about the final 15 games where he finally picked it up.

But I don't think there is a chance they do that deal anyway. Bledsoe cannot have much trade value after missing half out of 2 of 3 seasons.

This. I do not understand the fascination with Parker. He has skills but is ineffective thus far, and has shown absolutely nothing at the NBA level to warrant the "future franchise cornerstone" label that many give him. It's just like people claiming Mirotic is an elite shooter.

It's mostly just the early hype that people assume he is good. He scores decently, but he didn't even shoot a 3, doesn't get steals or blocks or many rebounds, though he is a decent passer. If he plays PF, he lacks rebounding....and I don't think he is quick enough to play the 3 effectively either.

Some of you TJ lovers discredit Jabari as a lazy out of shape tweener when he has actually defied his scouting report he is much more explosive and bouncier than advertised. He was Meloesque in college but his NBA game is predicated on slashing and throwing down as his midrange jumper has yet to surface. He was the early frotunrunner for ROY before going down and his recovery has been ahead of schedule but only partial, don't write him off just yet. Jabari averaged 18.9 points, 6.1 rebounds, 2.2 assists and 1.1 steals on 49.8 percent shooting the 28 games after the All-Star break

[thamadkant]

Warren has shown good promise and i like his development and have hopes for him. But discrediting Parker is ridiculous. I saw around 15 Bucks games (more entertaining than Suns) around post all star break and he looked good.


I think Parker has higher ceiling than Warren for sure. But his knee injury has held him back.

[Qwigglez]

It's been written in the stars or at least in India. Lol. We are interested in PG!

http://www.delhidailynews.com/news/NBA-trade-rumors--Phoenix-Suns-to-give-away-Devin-Booker-and-2016-NBA-draft-picks-for-Paul-George-1463921798/

Not Booker

The pick or multiple picks - Warren, fine. Just not Booker

I want to build around Booker

I would trade our treasure chest of picks before shipping out Booker.
No 4, No 13, Miami 2018, Miami 2021, + Warren, Archie, and Knight to a 3rd team for Paul George.

[andguy22]

No 4, No 13, Miami 2018, Miami 2021, + Warren, Archie, and Knight to a 3rd team for Paul George.

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!!! That's WAY too much to give up.

[Qwigglez]

Was randomly browsing the Suns subreddit and came across this...
https://www.reddit.com/r/suns/comments/4kgk0q/what_would_it_take_for_the_suns_to_part_with/

Wonder what you guys thought? Would you trade Booker + 4 + 13 + Chandler for Cousins + McLemore + 8?

[Qwigglez]

No 4, No 13, Miami 2018, Miami 2021, + Warren, Archie, and Knight to a 3rd team for Paul George.

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!!! That's WAY too much to give up.

Paul George is arguable a top 7-10 player in the NBA right now. I can't even name the Pacers starting five unit. We could only hope that one of those 4 picks is as good as Paul George. I'd do it just because Booker + George would be really fun to watch.

[andguy22]

4 first round picks , Plus Warren , Goodwin , and Knight ????

Sorry No way in %#$$ would I do that .

George is a Top 7-10 player in the NBA ?? Top 20 ?? Sure

Here's 15 off the top,,,,,,,

Lebron
Curry
Irving
Griffin
Carmelo
Thompson
Durant
Westbrook
Aldridge
Paul
Davis
Lillard
Lowry
Leonard
Cousins

I'd rather give up 4 first round picks , Plus Warren , Goodwin , and Knight ,,,,,,,,FOR THIS YEARS 1st or 2nd Pick

[Qwigglez]

^Very laughable list. Irving is a stat-padder without Lebron. Melo sucks. Griffin is okay, but not higher than Paul George this year. Thompson is good but not better than Paul George, put Thompson on the Pacers and PG on the Warriors and Klay wouldn't sniff the playoffs. LMA can't lead a team by himself. CP3 has been around a while but still hasn't made the Conference Finals, I'd put PG over him. AD had arguable a sub-par year, but I'd reckon to put him in top 5 still.

Seriously we are giving up the No 4 & 13 pick in a weak draft. We can't control what Miami does so they might be a top team in 2018 or most likely still in the playoffs so that pick is somewhere in the late teens to twenties. That 2021 Miami 1st is a huge mystery and although it could possibly be a top 3 pick it also has the likelihood of being in the late twenties as well. Yeah we give up Warren, but if we got Paul George he wouldn't develop properly off the bench, or when his rookie contract is up he'd probably want off this team so he can start. Goodwin is a throw in and he isn't sticking around here much longer anyway. And we all know nobody cares for Knight. I'd rather trade our treasure chest for Paul George instead of lets say Jimmy Butler (who hasn't played over 70 games since 2012-13) or DeMarcus Cousins.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Boston with Ainge and McDonough did a similar trade for Garnett and another for Allen. They were also over 30 at the time.

[Qwigglez]

Boston with Ainge and McDonough did a similar trade for Garnett and another for Allen. They were also over 30 at the time.

McD has hinted over the years that he would do something like that again if the opportunity arises

[carey]

Wonder what you guys thought? Would you trade Booker + 4 + 13 + Chandler for Cousins + McLemore + 8?

No, I don't think so. Maybe Booker isn't the next star I think he is and I'll regret turning that down. Right now though, I wouldn't do it. Especially because Cousins is such a wild card personality wise. He's volatile and I think we are trying to create a different type of team right now. I do think McLemore will be better with a change of scenery. Possibly Cousins too. It's probably a fair trade, but I'd rather hang on to Devin.

[Frank Lee]

Its hard to imagine Booker involved in any deal.... the Suns have been faceless since Nash (and to a certain degree Dragic) left. They now have their poster child that has already received rounds one and two from the hype machine (i.e. three point appearance and the draft representation complete with feel good guests) The marketing department will over ride McMully's quest for a proven star, if he is dangling the Good Book.

I still look for some trade on draft day. McMully has to make some move to entice FAs. I'd gladly swap out Knight/#4 for Gay/#8 but that barely moves the needle, it just avoids possible headaches with BK while improves our weak wing position.

I think all things are possible, even a bledsoe/Len deal (keep in mind, if we deal both Bled and Knight that leaves Book at the point....with McMullys old fav Rondo looking for a job) ....


but for starters, just do the little Sactown trade.

[bwgood77]

This. I do not understand the fascination with Parker. He has skills but is ineffective thus far, and has shown absolutely nothing at the NBA level to warrant the "future franchise cornerstone" label that many give him. It's just like people claiming Mirotic is an elite shooter.

It's mostly just the early hype that people assume he is good. He scores decently, but he didn't even shoot a 3, doesn't get steals or blocks or many rebounds, though he is a decent passer. If he plays PF, he lacks rebounding....and I don't think he is quick enough to play the 3 effectively either.

Some of you TJ lovers discredit Jabari as a lazy out of shape tweener when he has actually defied his scouting report he is much more explosive and bouncier than advertised. He was Meloesque in college but his NBA game is predicated on slashing and throwing down as his midrange jumper has yet to surface. He was the early frotunrunner for ROY before going down and his recovery has been ahead of schedule but only partial, don't write him off just yet. Jabari averaged 18.9 points, 6.1 rebounds, 2.2 assists and 1.1 steals on 49.8 percent shooting the 28 games after the All-Star break

I wasn't even thinking of TJ, and I am well aware of Jabari's numbers as I had him on my fantasy team, parked on the bench most of the year. Yeah, he best works as a PF and averages 6 boards a game, but of course those are just in some of the games as you mention. He is a good scorer but that's about it and has zero range.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I hope we stand pat and try to focus on next summer's free agents, rather than this summer's. Let's get one more draft class in here and see what we have. If Bender's at 3, take Murray, and move Knight, Tucker and #13 for Gay and #8 and draft Ellenson. Re-sign Tele. Sign minor FAs to round out the roster. That's my ideal scenario. Let your assets appreciate one more year, and let Butler/George/Cousins wait.

Bledsoe/Murray
Booker/Bogdanovic
Warren/Teletovic
Gay/Ellenson
Len/Chandler

[bwgood77]

4 first round picks , Plus Warren , Goodwin , and Knight ????

Sorry No way in %#$$ would I do that .

George is a Top 7-10 player in the NBA ?? Top 20 ?? Sure

Here's 15 off the top,,,,,,,

Lebron
Curry
Irving
Griffin
Carmelo
Thompson
Durant
Westbrook
Aldridge
Paul
Davis
Lillard
Lowry
Leonard
Cousins

I'd rather give up 4 first round picks , Plus Warren , Goodwin , and Knight ,,,,,,,,FOR THIS YEARS 1st or 2nd Pick

George is better than most of those guys, but Indiana isn't trading him so all this George talk is a waste of time.