2014 Official Suns Free Agent/Trade/Transaction Thread

[INFORMER-93]

Deng may be an upgrade, but I'm just not inclined to part with any assets for a player we can simply add via free agency in the offseason.

[bigfoot]

Look what I found on Suns Committed To Re-Signing Eric Bledsoe At 'Whatever It Takes'

There's no way PHX keeps Bledsoe and Dragic. They are both fighting for the same position and Phoenix doesn't have the $$ to keep both. I see them keeping Dragic because he is cheaper since Bledsoe will want the max, but still provides the same level of play. Which means they make take a page from the Sam Presti book and trade Bledsoe for lower than market value rather than losing him for nothing as an RFA (see Harden, James). I think the Knicks should be all over this because they need a young lead guard and can give Phoenix a more natural SG to play alongside Dragic.

This deal can also be expanded to give Phoenix a star forward as has been rumoured. It would also reunite an old fan favourite in Stoudemire to Phoenix. He is now showing he can be productive, so this is a great veteran addition to a Phoenix team on the rise. Meanwhile, the Knicks get some cap relief to help lure another star that better fits with Bledsoe & Carmelo (Carmelo and Stat have shown they are not productive when they both play together). Channing Frye comes back to replace Stoudemire in the Knicks front court and help stretch the floor. Cole Aldrich is a good young player for Phoenix to add to their stockpile of young talent:

To Phoenix:
Amare Stoudemire ($21,679,893 for 2 years) - Star scorer, former fan favourite
Iman Shumpert ($1,703,760 for 2 years) - More natural SG with all around star upside
Cole Aldrich ($884,293 EXPIRING) - Young bench player with potential

To New York:
Eric Bledsoe ($2,626,474 EXPIRING RFA) - Young star guard, can be resigned over the cap in NYK using bird rights
Channing Frye ($6,400,000 for 2 years) - PF who stretches the floor
Emeka Okafor ($14,487,500 EXPIRING) - Expiring contract to provide cap flexibility

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kjxr8qg

I fully expect to see "themeccamsg" make the Darwin Awards sometime in the near future.

[carey]

Look what I found on Suns Committed To Re-Signing Eric Bledsoe At 'Whatever It Takes'

There's no way PHX keeps Bledsoe and Dragic. They are both fighting for the same position and Phoenix doesn't have the $$ to keep both. I see them keeping Dragic because he is cheaper since Bledsoe will want the max, but still provides the same level of play. Which means they make take a page from the Sam Presti book and trade Bledsoe for lower than market value rather than losing him for nothing as an RFA (see Harden, James). I think the Knicks should be all over this because they need a young lead guard and can give Phoenix a more natural SG to play alongside Dragic.

This deal can also be expanded to give Phoenix a star forward as has been rumoured. It would also reunite an old fan favourite in Stoudemire to Phoenix. He is now showing he can be productive, so this is a great veteran addition to a Phoenix team on the rise. Meanwhile, the Knicks get some cap relief to help lure another star that better fits with Bledsoe & Carmelo (Carmelo and Stat have shown they are not productive when they both play together). Channing Frye comes back to replace Stoudemire in the Knicks front court and help stretch the floor. Cole Aldrich is a good young player for Phoenix to add to their stockpile of young talent:

To Phoenix:
Amare Stoudemire ($21,679,893 for 2 years) - Star scorer, former fan favourite
Iman Shumpert ($1,703,760 for 2 years) - More natural SG with all around star upside
Cole Aldrich ($884,293 EXPIRING) - Young bench player with potential

To New York:
Eric Bledsoe ($2,626,474 EXPIRING RFA) - Young star guard, can be resigned over the cap in NYK using bird rights
Channing Frye ($6,400,000 for 2 years) - PF who stretches the floor
Emeka Okafor ($14,487,500 EXPIRING) - Expiring contract to provide cap flexibility

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kjxr8qg

I fully expect to see "themeccamsg" make the Darwin Awards sometime in the near future.

This might be the most homerific trade proposal done in all seriousness I've ever seen and that's saying a lot.

[carey]

I'm hoping for a clearer picture of our salary cap situation for this upcoming summer. Making some assumptions like

1) Waiving rights to Krav, Christmas, Smith, Okafor
2) Signing PJ Tucker to a $3.5M contract (similar to Green's)
3) Four rookie contract cap holds totaling about $4M (or less if we stash someone in Europe or trade a pick)
4) Frye does not opt out
5) 2014 NBA salary cap of $60M
6) Bledsoe cap hold of $3.7M

With the above assumptions our team salary for cap purposes would be about $41.5M and gives us $18.5M to sign a free agent. This is in addition to signing Bledsoe to a max contract. This would put us close to luxury tax territory ($72M) maybe slightly over. Is this scenario right?? Who do we want for $18M per year that is available this summer?

That Bledsoe cap hold is wrong. Its not the qualifying offer amount. It's 250% of 2012-2013 contract or $6.6Mil. Tuckers cap hold is $1.1Mil. What really screws us is if Frye opts out. His cap hold is $9Million. In any case we should have cap room for Bledsoe's max and a rookie RFA max.

[Gorilla Warfare]

I'VE DONE IT!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=maceafy

Thank me later.

[NTB]

I'VE DONE IT!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=maceafy

Thank me later.

Hahahah best gm ever

[asudevil]

I think the guard market is over saturated and nobody will max out Gordon. Who has the ability and the need for gordon?

I think we keep Gordon for $11-12mil per.

As for Love...well the wolves aren't bad enough yet to consider what we have to offer yet. If they are way out of the playoffs cone the deadline then maybe. But right now its not worth talking about.

[bigfoot]

I'm hoping for a clearer picture of our salary cap situation for this upcoming summer. Making some assumptions like

1) Waiving rights to Krav, Christmas, Smith, Okafor
2) Signing PJ Tucker to a $3.5M contract (similar to Green's)
3) Four rookie contract cap holds totaling about $4M (or less if we stash someone in Europe or trade a pick)
4) Frye does not opt out
5) 2014 NBA salary cap of $60M
6) Bledsoe cap hold of $3.7M

With the above assumptions our team salary for cap purposes would be about $41.5M and gives us $18.5M to sign a free agent. This is in addition to signing Bledsoe to a max contract. This would put us close to luxury tax territory ($72M) maybe slightly over. Is this scenario right?? Who do we want for $18M per year that is available this summer?

That Bledsoe cap hold is wrong. Its not the qualifying offer amount. It's 250% of 2012-2013 contract or $6.6Mil. Tuckers cap hold is $1.1Mil. What really screws us is if Frye opts out. His cap hold is $9Million. In any case we should have cap room for Bledsoe's max and a rookie RFA max.

Okay that clears things up a bit. So offering Hayward a max contract is a possibility. Wonder how much McDornacek loves Hayward??

[Cutter]

I'm hoping for a clearer picture of our salary cap situation for this upcoming summer. Making some assumptions like

1) Waiving rights to Krav, Christmas, Smith, Okafor
2) Signing PJ Tucker to a $3.5M contract (similar to Green's)
3) Four rookie contract cap holds totaling about $4M (or less if we stash someone in Europe or trade a pick)
4) Frye does not opt out
5) 2014 NBA salary cap of $60M
6) Bledsoe cap hold of $3.7M

With the above assumptions our team salary for cap purposes would be about $41.5M and gives us $18.5M to sign a free agent. This is in addition to signing Bledsoe to a max contract. This would put us close to luxury tax territory ($72M) maybe slightly over. Is this scenario right?? Who do we want for $18M per year that is available this summer?

That Bledsoe cap hold is wrong. Its not the qualifying offer amount. It's 250% of 2012-2013 contract or $6.6Mil. Tuckers cap hold is $1.1Mil. What really screws us is if Frye opts out. His cap hold is $9Million. In any case we should have cap room for Bledsoe's max and a rookie RFA max.

Okay that clears things up a bit. So offering Hayward a max contract is a possibility. Wonder how much McDornacek loves Hayward??

Igoudala $12M
Batum $12M

I see Hayward being $10-12M, somewhere around Iggy and Batum.

[NTB]

By the way, Ersan Ilyasova is playing well against Lakers now. He played 13 mins and he has 8 points 6 rebounds.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Look what I found on Suns Committed To Re-Signing Eric Bledsoe At 'Whatever It Takes'

There's no way PHX keeps Bledsoe and Dragic. They are both fighting for the same position and Phoenix doesn't have the $$ to keep both. I see them keeping Dragic because he is cheaper since Bledsoe will want the max, but still provides the same level of play. Which means they make take a page from the Sam Presti book and trade Bledsoe for lower than market value rather than losing him for nothing as an RFA (see Harden, James). I think the Knicks should be all over this because they need a young lead guard and can give Phoenix a more natural SG to play alongside Dragic.

This deal can also be expanded to give Phoenix a star forward as has been rumoured. It would also reunite an old fan favourite in Stoudemire to Phoenix. He is now showing he can be productive, so this is a great veteran addition to a Phoenix team on the rise. Meanwhile, the Knicks get some cap relief to help lure another star that better fits with Bledsoe & Carmelo (Carmelo and Stat have shown they are not productive when they both play together). Channing Frye comes back to replace Stoudemire in the Knicks front court and help stretch the floor. Cole Aldrich is a good young player for Phoenix to add to their stockpile of young talent:

To Phoenix:
Amare Stoudemire ($21,679,893 for 2 years) - Star scorer, former fan favourite
Iman Shumpert ($1,703,760 for 2 years) - More natural SG with all around star upside
Cole Aldrich ($884,293 EXPIRING) - Young bench player with potential

To New York:
Eric Bledsoe ($2,626,474 EXPIRING RFA) - Young star guard, can be resigned over the cap in NYK using bird rights
Channing Frye ($6,400,000 for 2 years) - PF who stretches the floor
Emeka Okafor ($14,487,500 EXPIRING) - Expiring contract to provide cap flexibility

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kjxr8qg

Suns should prob throw in a couple first rounders.


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[Qwigglez]

I know you guys aren't fans of him, but if the Lakers are serious about tanking, I could see McD trading Okafor for Pau Gasol straight up. The Lakers shed close to $5mil in incoming salaries, which means they save $10mil in luxury tax I believe.
Anyway, Gasol is lethal on the block, can face up and attack the basket, and hit the mid range jumper. His career numbers shooting wise, is around 52%, and while he is only shooting 45% this year I believe it has to do with D'Antoni not utilizing him very well, plus having to carry the team, basically. Just a thought, I wouldn't mind starting the year off with another steal from LA.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I know you guys aren't fans of him, but if the Lakers are serious about tanking, I could see McD trading Okafor for Pau Gasol straight up. The Lakers shed close to $5mil in incoming salaries, which means they save $10mil in luxury tax I believe.
Anyway, Gasol is lethal on the block, can face up and attack the basket, and hit the mid range jumper. His career numbers shooting wise, is around 52%, and while he is only shooting 45% this year I believe it has to do with D'Antoni not utilizing him very well, plus having to carry the team, basically. Just a thought, I wouldn't mind starting the year off with another steal from LA.

If the lakers wanted to do a move like this they would do the Bynum trade instead ( which they might actually do).


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[WeekapaugGroove]

IMO the suns need to add 1 upgrade/star at forward in the next year. fry or tucker are upgraded and the morri continue off the bench is my ideal situation. But I would also be fine dealing both morri and some picks and keeping both tucker and fry with better player in front of them.


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[Qwigglez]

Yeah. But the Cavs might want a player that isn't expiring this year, maybe Asik? Clearly the Cavs deal is way better.

[thamadkant]

Suns / Jazz / 76ers

Suns
In: Hayward + Hawes
Out: Okafor + Pacers pick + Wizards pick + Wolves pick

Jazz
In: Turner + Young
Out: Hayward + Williams

76ers
In: Pacers pick + Wolves pick + Wizards pick + Williams + Okafor
Out: Turner + Hawes + Young


76ers clean house! Full tank mode post All-Star break.
Jazz replaces Hayward with Turner and Upgrades Williams to Young. They can also retain Turner on a lesser money than what Hayward would fetch.

Suns upgrades SF and gets a legit big man to support Frye and Plumlee.

Morris brothers would lose minutes though... Maybe change one of the picks for both the Morris brothers going to 76ers instead?

[Ryu]

That`s the interesting proposal, 1UPZ. Go to the trade board with it, I am curious to see what Jazz and Sixers fans think about it.

[Wannabe MEP]

Suns . . . get a legit big man to support Frye and Plumlee.

I like Spencer Hawes, but he's basically another Channing Frye. Younger, theoretically more potential perhaps. I'd love to have two of them...

But I feel I need to keep emphasizing: Channing Frye should play the FIVE. I don't mind him playing some minutes at the 4, but adding another center completely takes him out of the 5 slot.

Frye + Plumlee + Hawes with only 48 minutes at the 5?

[sunsbum]

Suns . . . get a legit big man to support Frye and Plumlee.

I like Spencer Hawes, but he's basically another Channing Frye. Younger, theoretically more potential perhaps. I'd love to have two of them...

But I feel I need to keep emphasizing: Channing Frye should play the FIVE. I don't mind him playing some minutes at the 4, but adding another center completely takes him out of the 5 slot.

Frye + Plumlee + Hawes with only 48 minutes at the 5?

The only thing frye and hawes have in common is they are tall and shoot threes. Spencer has a much more polished back to the basket game, his passing is far superior and general over all basketball IQ is much higher.

[gaspar]

Suns . . . get a legit big man to support Frye and Plumlee.

I like Spencer Hawes, but he's basically another Channing Frye. Younger, theoretically more potential perhaps. I'd love to have two of them...

But I feel I need to keep emphasizing: Channing Frye should play the FIVE. I don't mind him playing some minutes at the 4, but adding another center completely takes him out of the 5 slot.

Frye + Plumlee + Hawes with only 48 minutes at the 5?

The only thing frye and hawes have in common is they are tall and shoot threes. Spencer has a much more polished back to the basket game, his passing is far superior and general over all basketball IQ is much higher.

Spencer is also much much much worse on defense than Frye.