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Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8)

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Re: RE: Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#161 » by pidi » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:48 am

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toucansma wrote:This Warriors team is sick. It literally looks like they are just toying with the Suns. Give them a little hope then boom, turn it on. They are like 04-05 Suns with like prime Spurs defense and patience.


Yeah, I think they are the best team I have ever seen. The scary thing is they are so young they could be good for the next 10 years....I doubt they will start breaking up the team like we did with the 04-05 Suns who could have probably been a contender for at least 7 straight years had they just kept them together.


Yeah they are pretty close for me to. The amount of skill players they have is crazy. Just like that, they toyed with the Suns, let them in a bit, and now back up big again. Yeah this team is worth keeping together as long as you can push it. Crazy. You can't even hate, just be in awe.

The suns are toyboys. Saw that the Last 5 games. Good starting team and suddenly it all wents down. Kinda sucks to see a team banging us that hard


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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#162 » by thamadkant » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:49 am

Rather let Curry get into the arc, pull a off dribble jump shot, have the defender try to block him from behind.
Give him 2 feet or more and a direct angle from behind the arc with him having a second look at the rim is almost automatic.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#163 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:49 am

Another positive note, even though I'm sure people will complain about the coach after the game. VERY little Morris in the 2nd qtr. A lot of Booker and Warren. Even less Tucker. Kieff has played 7 minutes, Tucker 10, Booker 14 and Warren 17, against the best team in the league. Is this not encouraging for anyone?
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#164 » by Sunsss » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:49 am

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JellyRolling wrote:If you're Hornacek what do you tell your team during halftime?

Move the ball quicker.

Offense is not the problem. We're on pace to 114 points against a pretty good defensive team.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#165 » by Gorilla Warfare » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:49 am

I know it probably won't happen, but if the Warriors keep shooting lights out from 3 they will pass 27 for most in a game all time, and potentially score over 150 in regulation. That is sickening.
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Post#166 » by Funky Tut » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:51 am

grumpysaddle wrote:What really sucks is that the Suns are playing one of their better games of the season so far.



Just shows you how wide the talent gap is between our team and a championship level squad.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#167 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:53 am

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grumpysaddle wrote:What really sucks is that the Suns are playing one of their better games of the season so far.



Just shows you how wide the talent gap is between our team and a championship level squad.


This isn't a championship level team they are playing... I think they might be GOAT. I see them overtaking the Bulls 72 wins.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#168 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:54 am

Gorilla Warfare wrote:I know it probably won't happen, but if the Warriors keep shooting lights out from 3 they will pass 27 for most in a game all time, and potentially score over 150 in regulation. That is sickening.


They had a historic shooting half. If they come close to doing that again, I wouldn't say I'd be surprised, but it's extremely improbable.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#169 » by Qwigglez » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:54 am

bwgood77 wrote:Another positive note, even though I'm sure people will complain about the coach after the game. VERY little Morris in the 2nd qtr. A lot of Booker and Warren. Even less Tucker. Kieff has played 7 minutes, Tucker 10, Booker 14 and Warren 17, against the best team in the league. Is this not encouraging for anyone?


I was gonna mention that you can see what kind of team we are evolving into, or at least what kind of system Hornacek is trying to run. I thought the 2nd quarter was a lot of fun to watch. Both team wanted to run fast, it just so happens that the Warriors are draining all their shots and we are not.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#170 » by thamadkant » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:54 am

Warriors simply have mastered the 3pt shot.... not just Curry, but 2-3 other players from their team can nail 3s automatically when given open looks. They setup plays for open 3pt looks primarily then work their way in... which is unconventional to coach against, as traditional coaching instructs to defend the easiest shots which is inside the arc... but Warriors dont gameplan that way, the 3pt shot is their easiest shot.... I've seen Curry miss more off dribble shots inside than outside lately, he's not use to that... so defender can catch him from behind.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#171 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:56 am

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grumpysaddle wrote:What really sucks is that the Suns are playing one of their better games of the season so far.



Just shows you how wide the talent gap is between our team and a championship level squad.


Well, I think we know we were not even close to being a championship caliber team. I mean McD is just signing a bunch of random players every year and changing the roster big time. Last year the changes made it worse. I THINK this year he made much more sensible moves. We are still rebuilding though. It's rare you become a contender without having most all the same players playing 3-4 years together, unless you suddenly add LeBron and Bosh or LeBron and Love to your team.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#172 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:59 am

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bwgood77 wrote:Another positive note, even though I'm sure people will complain about the coach after the game. VERY little Morris in the 2nd qtr. A lot of Booker and Warren. Even less Tucker. Kieff has played 7 minutes, Tucker 10, Booker 14 and Warren 17, against the best team in the league. Is this not encouraging for anyone?


I was gonna mention that you can see what kind of team we are evolving into, or at least what kind of system Hornacek is trying to run. I thought the 2nd quarter was a lot of fun to watch. Both team wanted to run fast, it just so happens that the Warriors are draining all their shots and we are not.


I don't mind a big loss to the Warriors if Warren and Booker each play 17 and 14 minutes in the first half. Of course I'd like it in the 2nd half too, but you never know if the starters made some sort of run they might get a little more burn.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#173 » by Qwigglez » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:59 am

If we can just get our shots to fall, we can get back in this game.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#174 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:00 am

I was just thinking only way for Warriors to struggle are injuries and Draymond Green goes down.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#175 » by Qwigglez » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:03 am

I liked that post move by Kieff, he just missed. Good hustle by Leur (and then Kieff) to get that 3 for Bled.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#176 » by RaisingArizona » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:03 am

They called Bogut for moving screen... I almost spit out my coffee in shock.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#177 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:03 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
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grumpysaddle wrote:What really sucks is that the Suns are playing one of their better games of the season so far.



Just shows you how wide the talent gap is between our team and a championship level squad.


This isn't a championship level team they are playing... I think they might be GOAT. I see them overtaking the Bulls 72 wins.


I was about to say the same thing. They are far better offensively and probably the best offensive team of all time, and who I'm guessing, if he can do this for 5 more years, the best offensive player of all time.

The Bulls were far better defensively, but Draymond Green is playing every bit as good as Pippen did. I was looking at his numbers today from the wiretap up on the top of this page about West saying he is a top 10 player. HIs numbers are insane across the board. He is like a 43% 3 pt shooter, and averages like around 7 assists, 7 rebounds, and over a block and a steal a game. That's insane across the board stats. Very few players in the league can AVG those...maybe Westbrook and LeBron but that's about it. Kawhi and George would probably be close except they don't get nearly that many assists...though they could probably get there if they really tried.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#178 » by bwgood77 » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:04 am

As historic as their night has been, it's pretty surprising we are only down by 12.
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#179 » by DRK » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:05 am

Dang Klay had that clean I thought
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Re: Game 16: Golden State Warriors (16-0) @ Phoenix Suns (7-8) 

Post#180 » by thamadkant » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:05 am

Warriors have 4 players who can put the ball down, drive the into the paint, catch and shoot, slash and finish.

One of the most versatile team of all time. They are the epitome of the last 7-8 years of the game moving to the 3pt shot as the main weapon. They are the best team I've seen the last 7 years without a doubt.

The Bulls and mid 2000s Spurs are different eras that those teams dominated a competition that didnt use the 3pt shot as much.
I believe the next 3-4 years, defenses will focus on stopping the 3pt shot and then inside teams will rise up again.

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