NBA Draft and NCAA Basketball

AtheJ415 · Post #161 » by **AtheJ415** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:31 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I'm excited for the top 5 but I wonder if that means teams will tank harder given the projected tier drop off.

It's certainly possible. Luckily we have literally the toughest strength of schedule in basketball.

MrMiyagi · Post #162 » by **MrMiyagi** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:28 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:I'm excited for the top 5 but I wonder if that means teams will tank harder given the projected tier drop off.

It's certainly possible. Luckily we have literally the toughest strength of schedule in basketball.

I would say that's based off of last season's results, but the West as a whole got better anyways, so it's probably tougher...

Post #163 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:08 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:I'm excited for the top 5 but I wonder if that means teams will tank harder given the projected tier drop off.

It's certainly possible. Luckily we have literally the toughest strength of schedule in basketball.

I would say that's based off of last season's results, but the West as a whole got better anyways, so it's probably tougher...

Based on last year's results or this year's projected results, either way we'd be end up having what people consider the toughest schedule, because we were, and are expected to be, the worst team in the west. So we're the only team who doesn't get to play the expected (or last year's) worst team in the west 3-4 times. In the NBA SOS will pretty much always be in reverse order of expected (or last year's) record, at least for each conference, with some possible slight variation depending on which teams you play 3 and 4 times.

Vegas has our o/u set at 25.5. Sacramento is 30.5 and LAL is 32.5. That's quite a bit of variation. Here are their playoff seedings by o/u.

West
1) Golden State
2) Houston
3) San Antonio
4) Oklahoma City
5) Minnesota
6) Denver
7) Los Angeles Clippers
8) New Orleans
8) Portland
8) Memphis
(Last three teams all listed at 40 ½ wins)

East
1) Cleveland
2) Boston
3) Toronto
4) Washington
5) Milwaukee
6) Miami
7/8) Charlotte
7/8) Philadelphia
7/8) Detroit
(Last three teams all listed at 40 ½ wins)

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/story.cfm/story/1865923

AtheJ415 · Post #164 » by **AtheJ415** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:40 am

Nm

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Mulhollanddrive · Post #165 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:44 am

The worst 5 teams are amongst the worst rosters I've seen - Atlanta, Sacramento, Chicago, Brooklyn, New York.

It's going to be hard to get a top 5 pick if that's the goal.

AtheJ415 · Post #166 » by **AtheJ415** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:49 am

AtheJ415 · Post #167 » by **AtheJ415** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:52 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:The worst 5 teams are amongst the worst rosters I've seen - Atlanta, Sacramento, Chicago, Brooklyn, New York.

It's going to be hard to get a top 5 pick.

Our schedule is tougher than all of those teams though. Also, Atlanta is very well run. I don't think they'll be that bad given they are in the east, have Budenholzer, and solid vets like Bazemore and Schroder.

I think Chicago will be real bad. Brooklyn wasn't all that bad last year when entirely healthy. Sacramento added George Hill and Zebo, plus Fox. I could see us finishing anywhere from 3-5 at the end. I would actually say Indiana and Chicago are the 2 that are likely to be worse than us. I don't think the rest of the east will win less than us given the difficulty of their schedules versus ours.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #168 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:02 am

10 man rotation players with 4 years experience +

Chicago 2
Phoenix 2
Sacramento 3
Lakers 3
Brooklyn 4
Atlanta 6
New York 6
Indiana 6
Orlando 6

Wonder if results will show a correlation as experience is one of the biggest factors in the NBA.

Post #169 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:23 pm

AtheJ415 wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:The worst 5 teams are amongst the worst rosters I've seen - Atlanta, Sacramento, Chicago, Brooklyn, New York.

It's going to be hard to get a top 5 pick.

Our schedule is tougher than all of those teams though. Also, Atlanta is very well run. I don't think they'll be that bad given they are in the east, have Budenholzer, and solid vets like Bazemore and Schroder.

I think Chicago will be real bad. Brooklyn wasn't all that bad last year when entirely healthy. Sacramento added George Hill and Zebo, plus Fox. I could see us finishing anywhere from 3-5 at the end. I would actually say Indiana and Chicago are the 2 that are likely to be worse than us. I don't think the rest of the east will win less than us given the difficulty of their schedules versus ours.

That's the good thing about there being so many bad teams in the east. They all have much easier schedules than we do.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #170 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:28 am

This thread is back on!

Let's hope Bagley can pass some online tests.

Mo Bamba looked special with his all-round skills in practice games in Australia.

In2ition · Post #171 » by **In2ition** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:51 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:This thread is back on!

Let's hope Bagley can pass some online tests.

Mo Bamba looked special with his all-round skills in practice games in Australia.

Bamba is a cross between Noel and Gobert. Best of both.

Post #172 » by **ATTL** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:41 am

Watch on YouTube

DirtyDez · Post #173 » by **DirtyDez** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:30 am

^^ The Mataro All-Stars don't have matching shorts?

Mulhollanddrive · Post #174 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:41 am

Did Ayton do much?

Damkac · Post #175 » by **Damkac** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:15 pm

Watch on YouTube

jcsunsfan · Post #176 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:37 pm

Damkac wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Young Euro players do not usually put up those kinds of numbers. He seems to have a broad and highly developed skill set, without many holes. He seems fairly average athletically. Larry Bird-like.

Bogyo · Post #177 » by **Bogyo** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:25 pm

More like Larry Bird-lite

but yeah, he could be a really nice player. A better Manu maybe also a good comp.

Damkac · Post #178 » by **Damkac** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:35 pm

Doncic against my lame national team

Watch on YouTube

JoRain · Post #179 » by **JoRain** » Fri Sep 1, 2017 7:30 am

Damkac wrote:Doncic against my lame national team

Watch on YouTube

Saw that game. Dragic was doing whatever he wanted out there and really was the reason Slovenia won. Doncic I thought looked good too. He lacked quickness and strength, especially on D, but that's to be expected I suppose. His shot and body control is superb, but wasn't able to show all that much as I though his team was holding him back as he was just too fast for them.
Saw Finland's game too - have to say Markkanen was just terrific. I think he'll be better next year than people think. Also, we should just forget Len and sign Shermadini. I know he's 28, but he's tough, fast and has that Dirk one step fade away down to perfection.

Lazy10 · Post #180 » by **Lazy10** » Sat Sep 9, 2017 9:15 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I'm not expecting much this draft as it looks pretty thin at the top similar to 2013 or 2016.

My favourite prospects are Bamba and Williams as defensive monsters with 7'5+ wingspans to pair with Jackson to patrol the paint and perimeter.

Thin at the top, lmao you're crazy

Who would you take at 3 if Ayton/Doncic gone?