The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

[Mulhollanddrive]

Whats Stephon Castle ceiling?

Surely we trade for whoever has the best chance of being a future All Star.

OKC look like winning the title because of they got this piece in SGA.

[Ghost of Kleine]

We have regressed into “People are saying….” passing as news.

Some ridiculous deals being proposed. Ghost please focus on the draft because your trades are absolutely mythical …and worse is your ‘anything can happen why not man? ’ defense of them. Stick to your forte and shelve the trader ghost notion. My gawd, is there a team you haven’t tried to trade KD or Beal, and now PGeorge to? Also, I’m amazed that some hold onto to trading Beal as an out.

Our hands are so tied and assets so few that it is more likely the bare minimum gets done than any of these clickbaiting artificial content stories and wildly lopsided trades. Y’all are expecting teams to do exactly what F-d us… trade for Beal and gut your team for Durant.

I’ll give you my prediction…. We buyout and stretch Beal, Sign Nance Jr, draft a point guard and resign Gillespie. Then Snag a couple second rounders/undrafted bigs…oh, and more importantly, keep and later extend KD.

The only thing that deters this is a colossal offer for The Dim Reaper. Which just seems far fetched at this point as Houston looks to be the only true suitor.

This should be an Occam,s Razor off season. The more this front office tries to do the bigger risk of complete failure. And with out our picks, a monumental disaster looms. I’ll be damned if I go down with the ship. Been treading water 10 of the last 12 years as it is.

Because it's you, I sincerely promise to give your request the consideration that it deserves!!

Also, still hard to focus on the draft without knowing what picks and range we might end up at prior to a KD trade man?

[Ghost of Kleine]

Whats Stephon Castle ceiling?

Surely we trade for whoever has the best chance of being a future All Star.

OKC look like winning the title because of they got this piece in SGA.

somewhere between a pre injury Oladipo and a worse offensive D Wade maybe?

[Ghost of Kleine]

Which bottom feeder is going to splash that kind of money on a 35 year old PG. The lack of an NTC makes him marginally more attractive only when you compare him to Beal but no one is seriously looking at Beal

Just a few that come to mind are Atlanta (who pursued him around the deadline), Charlotte who hasn't made the playoffs or really landed a big name in almost a decade. And they haven't had a legit big name star talent since LJ back in 92. And BOTH the Hornets and Hawks are desperate to add talent so that their singular star players in Tre Young and Lamelo Ball don't leave/ ask out!

Also Sacramento, Memphis, Washington,
and possibly Chicago (most likely) even though we'd obviously have to take back P Williams contract. Because they're all desperately trying to make the playoffs and be more competitive! Sound familiar? So really any of those teams has potential as a trade partner for George or Beal in a trade back/ trade down scenario man.

Utah is desperate to move up, so what if we traded George or Beal and the 3rd pick for some combination of Collins/ Sexton/ Martin/ 21st pick/ 43rd pick/ LAL 28' 1st/ PHX 31' 1st back. Or maybe just trade them George/ 3rd for Markannen/ 21/ 43/ PHX 31' 1st??

Or maybe trade George/ 3rd pick for..................

Sacramento-
George/ 3rd for DeRozan/ Monk/ Valuncias/ SAC 26'1st/ CHI 25' 2nd (41st pick)/ CHO 27' 2nd.

Charlotte-
George/ 3rd pick for Nurkic expiring/ Bridges/ M Williams/ 33rd pick/ 34th pick/ CHO 27' 1st/ CHO 29' 1st (Top 8 protected)??

Houston-
Beal/ 3rd for J Green/ Sheppard/ Landale/ Whitmore/ 10th pick/ PHX 27' 1st.

Memphis-
George/ 3rd pick for Clarke/ Konchar/ Edey/ GG Jackson/ Wells/ 48th pick/ MEM 27' 1st/ MEM 29' 1st.

Brooklyn-
Cam Johnson/ Clowney/ 19th 26th and 27th picks?

Orlando-
Beal/ Richards/3rd pick for Isaac/ KCP/ Bidatze/ De Silva/ 16th pick/ 25th pick/ORL 28' 1st ( top 10 protected).

Chicago-
George/ Richards/ 3rd pick for Vucevic/ P Williams/ Huerter/ 12th pick/ 45th pick/ POR 26' 1st.

New Orleans-
George/ 3rd for D Murray/ Olynyk/ Hawkins/ Boston/ 26' and 27' Milwaukee 1st (swap rights). ** Then any trade done with Giannis would have to include us for them to get their picks back!

So if Houston trades for Giannis, then Milwaukee can get most of the players, we'd get two back, and we'd get our PHX 1sts back and then give them their firsts back in the three team deal!
** I'd also seek Andre Jackson Jr and Tyler Smith from Milwaukee and Eason and Whitmore from Houston!

If those trade were possible, then why wouldn't Philly just do that themselves? They want KD that badly? If we get PG, then he's stuck here.

Maybe they will look at some of those teams and similar offers? Who knows, it's still pretty early and the finals haven't even begun yet! It could be that they're taking their time to weigh all potential offers man and parse through all to identify the best value?

Or perhaps they just love the idea of KD offering nearly MVP level impact as a rental for next season ( as OKC holds their 1st round pick- only top 4 protected) in a loaded 26' draft and they'd want to minimize that outgoing value for next season without having to commit long to KD and then they could reset after next season with a ton of cap space in a very solid 26' free agency or even the loaded 27' free agency so they can completely reconstruct their roster?

Again, each front office's strategy is solely their own. But I really don't expect any front office to be in a rush to make any big decisions when the draft is still almost a month away.

And they already have offers coming in! I mean if George was untradable, then would we really be hearing about a Utah/ Markannen/ 5th pick for George/ 3rd pick out there?

[TeamTragic]

Just want to point out that Stein was on PHNX and denied KD to the Sixers.

He did not deny KD going to a different team and the Sixers being involved though.

I would read between the lines here.

[Ghost of Kleine]

If we take PG off the sixers hands I’m asking for 3rd AND the 35th pick. I’m then going to Brooklyn and offering the 3rd, 29th and 35th for the 9th, 19th, 26th and 27th. BK does it for Giannis ammo, Phx does it because no explanation needed.

That defeats the purpose of the trade than. The whole point to trade KD to Sixers and take on the PG contract is the #3 pick which will likely be Ace Bailey. I don't think the 76ers though will be stupid enough to do this. Turning Durant into the #3 pick in this NBA draft is likely the best the Suns can do.

If we do that trade, I would ask Utah for #5 and Walker Kesssler. Gets us a legit young C, and we can probably take someone good still at #5

But then who would be getting Markannen? And who's getting George? I'm not sure we could get a package of Markannen/ Kessler/ 5th pick for the 3rd pick. The value seems a bit too lopsided given Markannens', Kesslers' values, and the value of the 5th pick.

It just seems like a lot of value to pull just for loving up two whole spots man.

Maybe if we were taking back Collins/ Sexton/ Martin/ 5th pick instead ( 4 team trade) with Philly getting KD, Utah getting George, and the 4th team getting Markannen and then sending back more young players and picks back to Utah additionally?

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Slim Charless]

Just want to point out that Stein was on PHNX and denied KD to the Sixers.

He did not deny KD going to a different team and the Sixers being involved though.

I would read between the lines here.

Is Stein as plugged in as Gambo? I know he isn't as plugged in as Shams or Chris Haynes. I'd rather hear this from 1 of them.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Slim Charless]

That defeats the purpose of the trade than. The whole point to trade KD to Sixers and take on the PG contract is the #3 pick which will likely be Ace Bailey. I don't think the 76ers though will be stupid enough to do this. Turning Durant into the #3 pick in this NBA draft is likely the best the Suns can do.

If we do that trade, I would ask Utah for #5 and Walker Kesssler. Gets us a legit young C, and we can probably take someone good still at #5

But then who would be getting Markannen? And who's getting George? I'm not sure we could get a package of Markannen/ Kessler/ 5th pick for the 3rd pick. The value seems a bit too lopsided given Markannens', Kesslers' values, and the value of the 5th pick.

It just seems like a lot of value to pull just for loving up two whole spots man.

Maybe if we were taking back Collins/ Sexton/ Martin/ 5th pick instead ( 4 team trade) with Philly getting KD, Utah getting George, and the 4th team getting Markannen and then sending back more young players and picks back to Utah additionally?

I don't have Markennan being involved in the trade. Utah would keep him. It'd just be Kessler and the #5 for the #3.

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[TeamTragic]

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Sophie is absolutely stunning

[Mulhollanddrive]

I want to be a rich douchebag in my next life

[Mulhollanddrive]

If Spurs want Durant who do you take -

Stephon Castle or Dylan Harper

[Calvin Klein]

Is that the one who used to do game commentary as well?

[sunskerr]

lmaoooo I aint one to comment on another dudes (or girls) appearance but I guess if he's cheating then it's open season so LOL that dude is punching several levels above his weight even if he's rich. Maybe he got a mad texting game.

[dremill24]

If Spurs want Durant who do you take -

Stephon Castle or Dylan Harper

Seems pretty safe to say you're not getting either for Durant.

[bullsaficianado]

If Spurs want Durant who do you take -

Stephon Castle or Dylan Harper

They might let the #14 pick go for KD but you are not getting either #2 or Castle for Durant. He is 36 years old. No smart GM will trade young talent like that for a 36 year old. That's why that 76ers talk was fun they would be stupid to trade the #3 pick and PG contract for KD.

[lilfishi22]

If Spurs want Durant who do you take -

Stephon Castle or Dylan Harper

lol they wouldn't offer either but I'll take Harper.