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bwgood77 wrote:ATTL wrote:I'd take Dragan bender so we can make dragon and futurama references every game.
It is a little funny we either take a guy who could take a guy nick named Dragon or a guy with the first name of Marquese (as opposed to Markieff).
Frank Lee wrote:I'd take the Big Bender on the hopes he could play some SF. Shades of Larry Nance come to mind. If Len could declumsy-fy and run some at PF... we could have the Tri-towers.
Of all the dudes available, he is the logical selection. Unless McMully has a few deals up his sleeve, we just don't need anymore GD guards. That said, I'm betting there is something up his sleeve :eyebrows:
The list of draft-eligible players with some medical issue attached to them is pretty significant.
Word is Michigan State’s Denzel Valentine may have a fairly significant knee issue, so much so that one team sort of compared him to former Indiana Pacers All-Star Danny Granger, who came into the league with a degenerative knee condition and struggled every year to play 82 games. League sources said it’s still likely he will get drafted in the first round, but his stock looks to be a tough one to lock in with so many teams believing his knee will be a problem.
Kentucky guard Tyler Ulis is said to have a pretty significant hip issue, which some believe may require surgery down the line. A medical red flag combined with his size, Ulis could slide deep into the first round or even over into the second depending on how team medical staffs view his situation.
Florida State’s Malik Beasley was also a name that’s been mentioned since the Combine as having medical concerns. His name has come up a few times, and he had surgery at the end of FSU’s season for a stress fracture in his right leg. Because of this, he isn’t participating in workouts (although our Alex Kennedy reported that he may be shutting down his workouts due to a promise).
UNLV’s Stephen Zimmerman is said to have medical concerns, which is likely why most teams have him in the second round, despite his potential as a late first-round talent.
Virginia’s Malcolm Brogdon apparently played all season with a problematic foot. His camp has told teams it’s not an issue. Teams who have inquired were told it was not an issue by Virginia, but on draft night if you’re wondering why Brogdon slips into the second round, his foot might be a big reason why.
Michigan’s Caris LeVert is another player whose injury must be mentioned. He is still recovering from surgery on his left foot and may not be able to work out for teams before the draft. Teams are split on the long-term prognosis for LeVert, which makes him risky in the first round. Despite being a first-round talent, it’s more likely than not LeVert falls on draft night and has to prove himself after the healing is done on his foot.
Saberestar wrote:The list of draft-eligible players with some medical issue attached to them is pretty significant.
Word is Michigan State’s Denzel Valentine may have a fairly significant knee issue, so much so that one team sort of compared him to former Indiana Pacers All-Star Danny Granger, who came into the league with a degenerative knee condition and struggled every year to play 82 games. League sources said it’s still likely he will get drafted in the first round, but his stock looks to be a tough one to lock in with so many teams believing his knee will be a problem.
Kentucky guard Tyler Ulis is said to have a pretty significant hip issue, which some believe may require surgery down the line. A medical red flag combined with his size, Ulis could slide deep into the first round or even over into the second depending on how team medical staffs view his situation.
Florida State’s Malik Beasley was also a name that’s been mentioned since the Combine as having medical concerns. His name has come up a few times, and he had surgery at the end of FSU’s season for a stress fracture in his right leg. Because of this, he isn’t participating in workouts (although our Alex Kennedy reported that he may be shutting down his workouts due to a promise).
UNLV’s Stephen Zimmerman is said to have medical concerns, which is likely why most teams have him in the second round, despite his potential as a late first-round talent.
Virginia’s Malcolm Brogdon apparently played all season with a problematic foot. His camp has told teams it’s not an issue. Teams who have inquired were told it was not an issue by Virginia, but on draft night if you’re wondering why Brogdon slips into the second round, his foot might be a big reason why.
Michigan’s Caris LeVert is another player whose injury must be mentioned. He is still recovering from surgery on his left foot and may not be able to work out for teams before the draft. Teams are split on the long-term prognosis for LeVert, which makes him risky in the first round. Despite being a first-round talent, it’s more likely than not LeVert falls on draft night and has to prove himself after the healing is done on his foot.
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-is-derrick-rose-on-his-way-out/
If all of that is true, I would love to draft Ulis or Valentine at #28. Not a big deal if they have to sit mid season or even an entire season...they are too good to pass and we have the perfect medical staff.
We are on a rebuilding process so we have time.
“I mean it would be unbelievable to be selected by the Celtics,” Dunn said in a telephone interview on Thursday morning. “My dream is just to get drafted, and that I have a chance to be a top-five player, it’s a blessing.”
They have great players,” he said. “You definitely can tell they’re defense-oriented. I don’t know Marcus Smart that well, but I played with Marcus Smart at multiple things, AAU at the time, and high school in the McDonald’s All-American game. And Isaiah Thomas was an All-Star this year. You can see they’re on the rise and close to something special. I’m gonna be anxious to see what they do next year.”
bhawk wrote:Dragan has a brother Ivan at Maryland. Ivan tore his left ACL twice... Is this a non-issue for Dragan and teams considering him with the 4th pick? Or should we be concerned?
http://www.diamondbackonline.com/sports/terps-forwards-michal-cekovsky-ivan-bender-bond-over-common-language/article_8fc0c0dc-7c31-11e5-a695-ebc6a296ff18.html
Jarlaxle0204 wrote:I really shouldn't already be so invested in Bender since he's not even on our team, but man am I going to be heartbroken if Boston selects him before us on draft night.
Qwigglez wrote:What is everyone hoping Bender will turn out to be? IMO he isn't gonna be a first or even second option offensively. He seems like a jack of all trades kinda guy. I looked up some Kukoc stats, and his best season he got 19/7/5/1. Do you guys think Bender will be capable of doing this if he reaches his potential? Is he capable of more/less?
What I'm hoping for is a mix of Boris Diaw/Draymond Green/Toni Kukoc. I think maybe he can be a 15/7/6/1 kind of player depending on the system. Not sure if he'll ever be an all-star but I'll take those kind of stats.
Qwigglez wrote:What is everyone hoping Bender will turn out to be? IMO he isn't gonna be a first or even second option offensively. He seems like a jack of all trades kinda guy. I looked up some Kukoc stats, and his best season he got 19/7/5/1. Do you guys think Bender will be capable of doing this if he reaches his potential? Is he capable of more/less?
What I'm hoping for is a mix of Boris Diaw/Draymond Green/Toni Kukoc. I think maybe he can be a 15/7/6/1 kind of player depending on the system. Not sure if he'll ever be an all-star but I'll take those kind of stats.
Dominater wrote:Damn Cactus jack takin over
NikolaPekovic wrote:Sooooooo...
Are you guys taking Bender?
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Qwigglez wrote:What is everyone hoping Bender will turn out to be? IMO he isn't gonna be a first or even second option offensively. He seems like a jack of all trades kinda guy. I looked up some Kukoc stats, and his best season he got 19/7/5/1. Do you guys think Bender will be capable of doing this if he reaches his potential? Is he capable of more/less?
What I'm hoping for is a mix of Boris Diaw/Draymond Green/Toni Kukoc. I think maybe he can be a 15/7/6/1 kind of player depending on the system. Not sure if he'll ever be an all-star but I'll take those kind of stats.
I'd love for him to be a Kukoc type player. I watched a lot of late career Kukoc when he was on the bucks and really gained an appreciation for him as a player. It didn't always show up on the stat sheet but his smarts and passing made everyone around him look better. A guy like that is so helpful for a winning team. I don't know if bender will ever be that good but I'm all for the suns drafting him and finding out.
Jarlaxle0204 wrote:I really shouldn't already be so invested in Bender since he's not even on our team, but man am I going to be heartbroken if Boston selects him before us on draft night.
Dominater wrote:Damn Cactus jack takin over
Qwigglez wrote:What is everyone hoping Bender will turn out to be? IMO he isn't gonna be a first or even second option offensively. He seems like a jack of all trades kinda guy. I looked up some Kukoc stats, and his best season he got 19/7/5/1. Do you guys think Bender will be capable of doing this if he reaches his potential? Is he capable of more/less?
What I'm hoping for is a mix of Boris Diaw/Draymond Green/Toni Kukoc. I think maybe he can be a 15/7/6/1 kind of player depending on the system. Not sure if he'll ever be an all-star but I'll take those kind of stats.
gaspar wrote:Qwigglez wrote:What is everyone hoping Bender will turn out to be? IMO he isn't gonna be a first or even second option offensively. He seems like a jack of all trades kinda guy. I looked up some Kukoc stats, and his best season he got 19/7/5/1. Do you guys think Bender will be capable of doing this if he reaches his potential? Is he capable of more/less?
What I'm hoping for is a mix of Boris Diaw/Draymond Green/Toni Kukoc. I think maybe he can be a 15/7/6/1 kind of player depending on the system. Not sure if he'll ever be an all-star but I'll take those kind of stats.
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Dominater wrote:Damn Cactus jack takin over