Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion

[nbafan341]

Whos the best defender on this team?

[nbafan341]

Would suns be interested in cory joseph for Pj tucker and Tyson Chandler?

[Zelaznyrules]

Would suns be interested in cory joseph for Pj tucker and Tyson Chandler?

To me the value here is so far off that I wouldn't have thought an offer like this would even be suggested. I'm wondering where the disconnect is? Are you viewing Chandler as a negative perhaps, maybe because of contract or age? I'm not overly familiar with Cory but I thought he was in PJ's ballpark, a below average player that can help a team in short stretches. Is that not his level?

If values were reasonably equal (and I don't think they're even close) I would say it's still a no go. We have far greater need at the center spot than we do at guard.

[nbafan341]

Would suns be interested in cory joseph for Pj tucker and Tyson Chandler?

To me the value here is so far off that I wouldn't have thought an offer like this would even be suggested. I'm wondering where the disconnect is? Are you viewing Chandler as a negative perhaps, maybe because of contract or age? I'm not overly familiar with Cory but I thought he was in PJ's ballpark, a below average player that can help a team in short stretches. Is that not his level?

If values were reasonably equal (and I don't think they're even close) I would say it's still a no go. We have far greater need at the center spot than we do at guard.

Sorry, let me rephrase this: jonas valancuinas + delon wright for tj warren and tyson chandler?

[sasquatchBob]

Would suns be interested in cory joseph for Pj tucker and Tyson Chandler?

To me the value here is so far off that I wouldn't have thought an offer like this would even be suggested. I'm wondering where the disconnect is? Are you viewing Chandler as a negative perhaps, maybe because of contract or age? I'm not overly familiar with Cory but I thought he was in PJ's ballpark, a below average player that can help a team in short stretches. Is that not his level?

If values were reasonably equal (and I don't think they're even close) I would say it's still a no go. We have far greater need at the center spot than we do at guard.

Sorry, let me rephrase this: jonas valancuinas + delon wright for tj warren and tyson chandler?

No way. Right now Warren is probably our best player.

[nbafan341]

To me the value here is so far off that I wouldn't have thought an offer like this would even be suggested. I'm wondering where the disconnect is? Are you viewing Chandler as a negative perhaps, maybe because of contract or age? I'm not overly familiar with Cory but I thought he was in PJ's ballpark, a below average player that can help a team in short stretches. Is that not his level?

If values were reasonably equal (and I don't think they're even close) I would say it's still a no go. We have far greater need at the center spot than we do at guard.

Sorry, let me rephrase this: jonas valancuinas + delon wright for tj warren and tyson chandler?

No way. Right now Warren is probably our best player.

Valancuinas for pj tucker, tyson chander and a future 1st rounder??

[King4Day]

Sorry, let me rephrase this: jonas valancuinas + delon wright for tj warren and tyson chandler?

No way. Right now Warren is probably our best player.

Valancuinas for pj tucker, tyson chander and a future 1st rounder??

I'd still pass. Going after Valancuinas means we are going to try to win. Right now we're nowhere close to ready for this. Our team is super young and we need someone like Chandler for his leadership.

[nbafan341]

No way. Right now Warren is probably our best player.

Valancuinas for pj tucker, tyson chander and a future 1st rounder??

I'd still pass. Going after Valancuinas means we are going to try to win. Right now we're nowhere close to ready for this. Our team is super young and we need someone like Chandler for his leadership.

I cN Gursntee you the suns record wont be much better..

[m1chal]

Valancuinas for pj tucker, tyson chander and a future 1st rounder??

I'd still pass. Going after Valancuinas means we are going to try to win. Right now we're nowhere close to ready for this. Our team is super young and we need someone like Chandler for his leadership.

I cN Gursntee you the suns record wont be much better..

You should consider a career in advertising

[nbafan341]

I'd still pass. Going after Valancuinas means we are going to try to win. Right now we're nowhere close to ready for this. Our team is super young and we need someone like Chandler for his leadership.

I cN Gursntee you the suns record wont be much better..

You should consider a career in advertising

HAHA you got me. I mean, valancuinas would be a piece for the future but thr suns rebuilding team wont be good enough for the playoffs.they will still have a younger players team record and need a couple 2 yrs of rebuilding before tjey can have a chance of making the playoffs

[NavLDO]

I thought Coro's quote of Earl Watson in today's article was pretty revealing. He said something to the effect of, Young guys will struggle to finish games, but it's mostly our veterans who are struggling to do that.

I think the coaching staff and the FO are likely on the same page. Time to scuttle the ship. I think Earl wants to play Ulis ahead of the vets as much as anyone, but knows that for the sake of his job, he can't.

Wish Ayton were available this year instead of next.

Why?? Do you expect us to be any better next year??? We'll still be in the 'lotto ball tumbling' event (with our own pick) next offseason as well, I'm sure! Both and ...

...and one more thing...probably better Ayton be in next year's class; we've already selected (just haven't announced) our pick, who we are tanking for...

Malik Monk--Combo Guard from Kentucky averaging 2.4 APG. I mean, read below. Have you ever seen a more 'tailor-made' prospect for McD and the Suns!!

Monk has a tendency to break off plays, over-dribble, and take low-percentage shots ...While Monk can really pass, he's also a bit of an assist hunter, only giving it up when he knows he's in line for an assist, rather than constantly moving the ball ahead in transition or making the fundamental swing pass to shift the defense. If Monk is able to keep up his distributing and shot making, while playing unselfishly and staying away from the hero ball plays, he'll be a much more valuable long-term NBA prospect.

Oh...And while Saberestar ws 'fixing' posts above this one, figured I'd get into the spirit and fix yours as well, in RED above...

[NavLDO]

Now that we're almost to Christmas, I have a few questions that consistently bug me about this team:

1. Does Watson know how to coach?

4. Does Alex Len understand that he could be really, really rich with a little consistency?


My answer to each of these is probably "No" right now, but I hope I am wrong.

So, erasing 2,3, and 5. Now, look at 1 and 4...then, look at Len's Game Log in MPG. In just his last 3 gms it's 15, 34, and 16 MPG.

Now, 'double' his stats in his 15 and 16 MPG games, and compare his FG% in those games to his 34 min gm. Doesn't add up, does it? Because Len needs to average 25 MPG, IMO, to be at his most effective.

Now there's your problem. And as most know, I've been a bit 'focused' (others call it 'obsessed', but whatever) with Len as of late, but really, it's because this very issue that drives me mad. In his last 7 games in November, all 22 MPG+, he avg'd 2.6 Blks, 10 TRBs, 9 PTs, on 57% FG%.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Would suns be interested in cory joseph for Pj tucker and Tyson Chandler?

Id do that if there was also a good bledsoe trade on the table.

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[ImNotMcDiSwear]

For the sake of sanity, I've decided not to watch the camouflaged tank any longer. I won't watch Bledsoe, Knight, Tucker or Chandler. I will watch if any 3 of Booker, Chriss, Bender and Len are on the floor, and I will watch if either Ulis or Warren and any other player in that group is on the floor.

It's just not worth the pain.

[Frank Lee]

I'm with you cosmo....


Once Boogie is confirmed off the table....after McD has made his best pitch.... IMO, then and only then does Bled become available. The sad thing is, only a few teams might be interested....such a low demand for a ball dominant tweener guard who hasn't grasped the art of the assist. It plays out even worse for Knight, as he gets the additional 'bumbling' characteristic.

What a different world it would have been if McDingleberry would have recognized who the better guards were when he ransacked the roster and left us with this abomination. If he just could have side stepped his Ainge-ish methods of asset collection. Those mistakes have lingereded on and hamstrung the future. Poor investments....a roster in Dire need of a shake up, but with such little expendable talent to bargain with. I get the feeling that only a package of Knight and a pick will yield an actual usable contributing player... and that likely won't happen till draft day.

I think this is more of a mess than many here want to acknowledge. I can't excited about this future of this organization. It's long on potential, and short on probable. We are 25 games in, and the best hope we have is getting a high pick....for a f-g PG.....a position McDope has invested long term in. Depreciating assets who weren't that good to begin with.

I can't see any other path out than to blow it up or make an all out appeal for Boogie. Going forward with both Knight be bled next yr would be it for me. I haven't watched much basketball since the Knight debacle.... or rather the days of Dragic..... the whole thing just stinks. The worst kind of basketball to view, and even harder to support unless you put on the wait'll next year googles. Would be an interesting conversation/debate comparing what we have now, to what we'd have if McDuh would have done nothing but resign our own FAs and had less roster meddling. Gone is the Bledsoe Steal Deal good grace period. But that's all water under the flaming bridge. The Front Office has failed us. Two f-n extra draft picks and a couple of kind of good may be players and some tired low valued vets is hardly the position we should be in.

The solution?
Turn it off.... de-emotionalize the involvement
Or buy the hype about the fabulous future ... hey... it's going to great, a better stronger Phoenix....one that Wins every deal.





PS..... Click

[thamadkant]

McD might not be GM next season... Probably demotes to draft director though.

Sarver could be desperate to make the 8th spot... If so... McD would sell youth for a chance for Cousins. Which is fine... Assuming he will also go for another star player to make a trio of stars to build around.

[NavLDO]

Spoiler:

I'm with you cosmo....


Once Boogie is confirmed off the table....after McD has made his best pitch.... IMO, then and only then does Bled become available. The sad thing is, only a few teams might be interested....such a low demand for a ball dominant tweener guard who hasn't grasped the art of the assist. It plays out even worse for Knight, as he gets the additional 'bumbling' characteristic.

What a different world it would have been if McDingleberry would have recognized who the better guards were when he ransacked the roster and left us with this abomination.

Spoiler:

If he just could have side stepped his Ainge-ish methods of asset collection. Those mistakes have lingereded on and hamstrung the future. Poor investments....a roster in Dire need of a shake up, but with such little expendable talent to bargain with. I get the feeling that only a package of Knight and a pick will yield an actual usable contributing player... and that likely won't happen till draft day.

I think this is more of a mess than many here want to acknowledge. I can't excited about this future of this organization. It's long on potential, and short on probable. We are 25 games in, and the best hope we have is getting a high pick....for a f-g PG.....a position McDope has invested long term in. Depreciating assets who weren't that good to begin with.

I can't see any other path out than to blow it up or make an all out appeal for Boogie. Going forward with both Knight be bled next yr would be it for me. I haven't watched much basketball since the Knight debacle.... or rather the days of Dragic..... the whole thing just stinks. The worst kind of basketball to view, and even harder to support unless you put on the wait'll next year googles. Would be an interesting conversation/debate comparing what we have now, to what we'd have if McDuh would have done nothing but resign our own FAs and had less roster meddling. Gone is the Bledsoe Steal Deal good grace period. But that's all water under the flaming bridge. The Front Office has failed us. Two f-n extra draft picks and a couple of kind of good may be players and some tired low valued vets is hardly the position we should be in.

The solution?
Turn it off.... de-emotionalize the involvement
Or buy the hype about the fabulous future ... hey... it's going to great, a better stronger Phoenix....one that Wins every deal.





PS..... Click

I'm right there with you, Frank. McD got rid of 2 Guards...problem is, he only got one of them right. Had he kept IT, and traded Bledsoe instead, we would likely have gotten even a bigger return than what we got for IT...like maybe 2 1sts like we got for Dragic.

But hey, McD was 1 for 2 on that whole process; we still have those nice Heat picks. Problem is, we have a 27YO "Tank Commander" making a cool $12.5M, instead of IT's , what, $7M?? But hey, it could be worse, they could be like the Heat, paying their 30YO "Tank Commander" $16M!

[Villalobos]

I hope McD gets fired just so I never have to read one of those corny as **** puns again.

[TeamTragic]

Would suns be interested in cory joseph for Pj tucker and Tyson Chandler?

To me the value here is so far off that I wouldn't have thought an offer like this would even be suggested. I'm wondering where the disconnect is? Are you viewing Chandler as a negative perhaps, maybe because of contract or age? I'm not overly familiar with Cory but I thought he was in PJ's ballpark, a below average player that can help a team in short stretches. Is that not his level?

If values were reasonably equal (and I don't think they're even close) I would say it's still a no go. We have far greater need at the center spot than we do at guard.

Sorry, let me rephrase this: jonas valancuinas + delon wright for tj warren and tyson chandler?

NO

[lilfishi22]

Sorry, let me rephrase this: jonas valancuinas + delon wright for tj warren and tyson chandler?

No way. Right now Warren is probably our best player.

Valancuinas for pj tucker, tyson chander and a future 1st rounder??

Top 8 protection and I'd probably do it