Saberestar wrote:bigfoot wrote:Saberestar wrote: 
Well, seriously, if Lowry is traded this summer and he is happy with the Suns as a destination we need to trade for him.
Look, not too many good players want to play for the Suns. We need to get whoever is comfortable and happy about being on a rebuilding team and with Sarver as a owner.
We do not have a lot of money, so we are not gonna overpay for someone like Rubio or Collison...so our options are gonna be limited.
If Lowry ( or Conley) wants to play for the Suns we would be very lucky. We are talking about a veteran All Star who is a good defender and has a superhigh basketball IQ.
Perfect fit for our young team. We need someone like him.
Both make over $30M next year. To make the money work in a trade we would have to give up Tyler Johnson, TJ Warren, and then a draft pick or two to get either Lowry or Conley. Seems like a lot for one year of Lowry. Two years of Conley maybe.
Tyler Johnson, Josh Jackson and one or two of Spalding, Fredette, Okobo or Melton would be enough to make salaries work.
It does not seem too much for me. Look at our package...it is not a big deal IMO for a PG who can be a truly game changer.
Agreed, They'd be great targets for us.
As for the numbers matching and what we'd need to give up,
Honestly......I believe that we would only have to send out Tyler Johnson and TJ Warren in order to have the salaries match up. At most....MAYBE add the Milwaukee pick as a sweetener. (At the very most).
And the reason that I propose Conley aside from all of the things that he'd bring to our young team in the way of veteran leadership with playoff experience and still relatively high production is in that the recent front office turbulence ( as Kerrsed mentioned).
This, along with the firing of their coach(whom Conley really liked) and there insistence on rebuilding have made Conley available for a more reasonable price than previously inferred. This has been evidenced by Memphis' attempt to trade him to Utah already.
So we could test drive Conley for two seasons, to see how he fits with our team. And he could also Mentor our young rookie point guards ( Morant/Garland/ White IF we draft one) as well as Melton and Okobo too.
But should people rather hang onto Warren, Then of course Tyler johnson/Jackson/ and another young player and pick could also work.
It's just for my part, I'd much rather move Warren, as he is oft injured, doesn't play much if any defense, and is the most likely candidate to actually be moved anyways due to his current value being better than Jacksons.
The glut at the wing position needing go be resolved and of course the productional emergence of Oubre and to a slightly lesser degree.......Jackson.
And finally, it's important to consider the long game, in that both Conley or Lowry would eventually become massive expiring contracts that could be flipped in a trade for a max quality player.
And even though Tyler Johnson has been really decent for us in his short time playing, you have to be realistic and ask yourself.......
In any contractual trade with another team getting/wanting a point guard back, IF you were in their shoes, who would you prefer in return for giving up your max player???
A Tyler Johnson or Mike Conley or Kyle Lowry???
He's an elite passer, rebounder, and defender. He plays PG and PF at the same time, and we happen to have severe holes at both of those positions. Oh yeah and he's 22 years old and a perfect complement to Devin Booker. I like Conley and Jrue, but Simmons is on another level. I'll never understand why Suns fans shoot for mediocrity. Stockholm syndrome I guess. If he's even slightly available then he should be at the very top of the Suns list.
