2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch - Revised Poll

AtheJ415 wrote:Okoro is one of the dudes I want least. Watched a lot of Auburn games. Don't understand the hype. He's not the crazy athlete most think imo.

I watched a couple of games (boring as hell) and I don't understand the hype neither.

He needs to improve vastly on offense, he is strong and a very good athlete so he can finish around the rim and draw some fouls, but that is not gonna work in the NBA.

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I would be OK with him at #10 because the potential is there, but he is not a Top #5 prospect IMO even on this **** draft.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1628 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Oct 8, 2020 3:30 pm

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I'm not McD mentioned him first a while back I believe. Good eye by the way man! :wink:

Alexander is a great point of attack defender whose also pretty solid offensively. He's a bigger version of Melton/ Carter ( defensive ballhawk) but again, with much better shooting. He'd be a very solid defensive compliment to Booker. And a value as a mid to late 2nd option for us. :nod:

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Since we all know the Agents really run this (Our ties to Josh Jackson's agent BJ Armstrong of Wasserman and the skipping of Bostons workout as evidence of collusion), i decided to look at our top players agents and see who in the draft they represent. Bolded names are guys projected to be 1st round picks.

Ayton and Oubre's agency is BDA. Their draft clients include Tre Jones, Nico Mannion, Isaiah Joe, Daniel Oturu, Jaden McDaniels.

Booker is with CAA. Their draft clients include Tyrese Haliburton, Obi Toppin, Devin Vassell, Malachi Flynn, Mason Jones, Devon Dotson (I think they cornered the market on Devins), Josh Green, Reggie Perry, Lamine Diane, Ashton Hagans.

Bridges and Rubio are with Excel. Their draft clients include Onyeka Okongwu, James Wiseman, Saddiq Bey, Cole Anthony, Aaron Nesmith, Elijah Hughes, Nathan Knight, Nick Richards.

Everyone else in the draft is with other agencies like Priority/KLUTCH/ROC Nation/YoungMoney/RIZE/Versus/Wasserman along with a few small ones.

My money says Sarver cant stay out of micro-managing the draft 2 years in a row and we trade our pick to Boston for their 2 picks and we take Green and Mannion.

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Ghost of Kleine · Post #1630 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Oct 8, 2020 5:24 pm

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Eboua looking like a monster on his new training regimen. At 6'8 and with a 7'3 wingspan, And a 43 inch vertical, Is definitely an intriguing prospect as a multi position two way player if only he wasn't so very raw! :-?

Seriously though guys, We need to hire this kids personal trainer/ strength coach to work with our guys! Could you imagine Ayton/ Cam/ Bridges/ Oubre/ Booker in this kind of optimal physical shape?

Or how about any of Saric, Kaminsky, Jerome? :lol:

That'd be a pretty scary proposition for opposing teams. We should hire this guy as our strength and conditioning coach, And David Nurse as our shooting/ sports psychology consultant. :nod:

Post #1631 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Oct 8, 2020 5:57 pm

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For BWgood, Because I know he likes Naji.

I really liked him being an AZ fan...his intensity but I am not sure how I like him as an NBA prospect. I guess he really has been working on his 3 though. If he develops that, he could be a nice NBA player.

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bwgood77 wrote:I really liked him being an AZ fan...his intensity but I am not sure how I like him as an NBA prospect. I guess he really has been working on his 3 though. If he develops that, he could be a nice NBA player.

Do you like any of the AZ prospects? I tried watching video of both Green and Nico and found the rather underwhelming. Weren't they both supposed to be top prospects coming out of HS? Was the disappointment actually them or was it the team/system they were in? I just find it weird that two 5-star recruits end up looking as poorly as they did.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1633 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:39 pm

Kerrsed wrote:Since we all know the Agents really run this (Our ties to Josh Jackson's agent BJ Armstrong of Wasserman and the skipping of Bostons workout as evidence of collusion), i decided to look at our top players agents and see who in the draft they represent. Bolded names are guys projected to be 1st round picks.

Ayton and Oubre's agency is BDA. Their draft clients include Tre Jones, Nico Mannion, Isaiah Joe, Daniel Oturu, Jaden McDaniels.

Booker is with CAA. Their draft clients include Tyrese Haliburton, Obi Toppin, Devin Vassell, Malachi Flynn, Mason Jones, Devon Dotson (I think they cornered the market on Devins), Josh Green, Reggie Perry, Lamine Diane, Ashton Hagans.

Bridges and Rubio are with Excel. Their draft clients include Onyeka Okongwu, James Wiseman, Saddiq Bey, Cole Anthony, Aaron Nesmith, Elijah Hughes, Nathan Knight, Nick Richards.

Everyone else in the draft is with other agencies like Priority/KLUTCH/ROC Nation/YoungMoney/RIZE/Versus/Wasserman along with a few small ones.

My money says Sarver cant stay out of micro-managing the draft 2 years in a row and we trade our pick to Boston for their 2 picks and we take Green and Mannion.

+5 Internet Points for anyone who gets the reference.

Lol! That would definitely be disappointing! Not that Green or Mannion are necessarily bad players, But rather there are much better options for our needs.The agent connection is very interesting. Knowing Jones affinity for High IQ players that can shoot well, I'm curious to find out who the agents are for prospects Killian Tillie and Xavier Tillman. As both are high IQ players with very complimentary skillset projections. I also like the Tony Schiavone " Fingerpoke of Doom" Kevin Nash/ Hollywood Hogan reference too man! :lol:

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YouTube · Post #1635 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Oct 8, 2020 6:52 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:Lol! That would definitely be disappointing! Not that Green or Mannion are necessarily bad players, But rather there are much better options for our needs.The agent connection is very interesting. Knowing Jones affinity for High IQ players that can shoot well, I'm curious to find out who the agents are for prospects Killian Tillie and Xavier Tillman. As both are high IQ players with very complimentary skillset projections. I also like the Tony Schiavone " Fingerpoke of Doom" Kevin Nash/ Hollywood Hogan reference too man!
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Both Tillie and Tillman are with Priority. The Big Board posted below gives info including agents.

https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/lists/nba-mock-draft-big-board-virtual-combine-top-players/

Our only current connection to Priority is.......Ty Jerome. Dudley was/is also a client.

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Post #1636 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:19 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:I really liked him being an AZ fan...his intensity but I am not sure how I like him as an NBA prospect. I guess he really has been working on his 3 though. If he develops that, he could be a nice NBA player.

Do you like any of the AZ prospects? I tried watching video of both Green and Nico and found the rather underwhelming. Weren't they both supposed to be top prospects coming out of HS? Was the disappointment actually them or was it the team/system they were in? I just find it weird that two 5-star recruits end up looking as poorly as they did.

I like them ok as an AZ fan. Nico was a little disappointing. Zeke was my favorite, perhaps more because it was unexpected. Green is decent.

The thing with the draft is that there are only going to be the cream of the crop and probably 5-10 impact players and another 10 rotation players long term...with a few end of the bench guys.

So you just really have to stand out. I am curious how far Mannion drops. Even though I probably like him least out of them, I think he has poise, confidence and skill and might end up being better than where he is drafted if he falls out of the first. Though he could do nothing and be out of the league as well. He seems very high iq to me. I watched a lot of low iq guys, like you could tell Allonzo Trier had a very low IQ and awareness level. I think Nico rates among the highest I have seen from AZ in this respect, even though his physiclal skills may be more limiting.

I like Green, and he is kind of your prototypical player people like in today's NBA...I just think there are probably better options. I like someone like Bane better. Green may have more long term upside, but Bane is better now, particularly at shooting.

'I do like Zeke a lot because of his intensity. His wingspan could be a little better, but it's not short..still 7'1. I had never considered him as an NBA prospect I would like because of his lack of shooting, but I did read he has practice it and has a nice stroke somewhere I think. If that's the case I like him. The only other drawback for me would be the lack of assists, but given the role I would expect from him, probably like a 3rd big off the bench/energy guy, that probably wouldn't be all that important.

Saberestar · Post #1637 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:43 pm

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I am curious how far Mannion drops. Even though I probably like him least out of them, I think he has poise, confidence and skill and might end up being better than where he is drafted if he falls out of the first. Though he could do nothing and be out of the league as well. He seems very high iq to me. I watched a lot of low iq guys, like you could tell Allonzo Trier had a very low IQ and awareness level. I think Nico rates among the highest I have seen from AZ in this respect, even though his physiclal skills may be more limiting.

For what you are saying here Mannion could be similar to Ty Jerome. Do you think is a fair comparison?

Some prospects expected to go in the 2nd round are gonna be undrafted. Mannion, Tre Jones, Riller... and I wouldn't be surprised if we sign one of them as 15th man on the roster.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1638 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:53 pm

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Lol! This is gonna piss off Alamin a lot! :lol:

But in all honesty, It's not at all surprising, Considering Thibs proclivities towards defense oriented players. I'll be pissed if they take Vassell honestly. ( But perhaps we've already anticipate this). Which is why we're looking to trade back for Bane?

Anyways all joking aside, That would be crazy if he somehow fell all the way into the 20s' or possibly later!

Does anyone else have him outside of the top 14 on their big board by chance? Regardless though, I really don't see him slipping past Orlando at 15, Or Miami at 20? At the very worst. Either way, things could get crazy on draft night.

Saberestar · Post #1639 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:57 pm

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I like Oturu a lot, one of a handful of bigs i like in this draft, but he isnt a first round pick. He is pretty much Ayton, but really raw. When you look at his videos, it looks almost exactly like Ayton.

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For a back-up big, i wouldnt be mad, but only if drafted with a 2nd round pick (Or even a really late 1st). I had him ranked #20 on my Big Board. People that complained about Aytons speed (Footwork/Decision making) would be really pissed at this pick, as those are 2 of the biggest issues with him.

Who do you prefer of the following prospects?