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[SunsRback4Good]

Marcus Morris is still a thug. CONFIRMED!

[Damkac]

They wanted bad boy they will have bad boy Wonder when they will hate him as much as we are. This laughs best who laughs last

[bwgood77]

Anyone see this? #MookgonnaMook

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14502727/detroit-pistons-indiana-pacers-players-fined-nba-skirmish

Of course that's what the Pistons fans are all about, particularly when it comes to the Pacers.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1420989#start_here

Fans may try and instigate a fight with George next time Indy comes to town.

Did you watch the video and read their comments in the thread? Classic.

[Damkac]

If Mook epitomizes Detroit basketball then I hope Booker and Warren will be seen as epitomizes of Suns basketball and I don't mean being terrible at defense

[Gorilla Warfare]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zko-FFCVnw[/youtube]

Steph Curry with the shot, boy.

[kennydorglas]

Marcus Morris appreciation thread hahaha

What a great time to be alive.

[aIvin adams]

saw this on the GB and didn't know where to put it bc we don't have a dedicated "sadness thread" yet besides the game threads

[tweet]https://twitter.com/tomhaberstroh/status/684043561130684417[/tweet]

[RunDogGun]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zko-FFCVnw[/youtube]

Steph Curry with the shot, boy.

It looked just a normal three point shot for him.

[alldayeveryday]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee/status/684473614335373312[/tweet]

[Gorilla Warfare]

Dragic saying the Suns are not loyal...looks like DJ Khaled got to him out there in Miami.

[bigfoot]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee/status/684473614335373312[/tweet]

Isn't this the truth though. They have

1) a good team with Nash/Marion/Amare/JJ ... let JJ walk
2) a good team with Nash/Marion/Amare ... trade Marion for Shaq
3) a good team with Nash/Amare/Frye ... let Amare walk
4) a good team with Dragic/Bledsoe/Frye ... let Frye walk and sign IT
5) Let MDA walk
6) Let Kerr walk
7) GM cycle (Bryan C, Kerr, Sarver, Babby/Blanks, Babby/McD, McD)
8) Coach cycle (MDA, Porter, Gentry, Hunter, Horny)

A some point the Suns need to create some stability in the organization.

[jcsunsfan]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee/status/684473614335373312[/tweet]

Isn't this the truth though. They have

1) a good team with Nash/Marion/Amare/JJ ... let JJ walk
2) a good team with Nash/Marion/Amare ... trade Marion for Shaq
3) a good team with Nash/Amare/Frye ... let Amare walk
4) a good team with Dragic/Bledsoe/Frye ... let Frye walk and sign IT
5) Let MDA walk
6) Let Kerr walk
7) GM cycle (Bryan C, Kerr, Sarver, Babby/Blanks, Babby/McD, McD)
8) Coach cycle (MDA, Porter, Gentry, Hunter, Horny)

A some point the Suns need to create some stability in the organization.

So you advocate keeping Horny and McD then?

1. There is no way they could pay three max contracts still not have their best player on a max contract.
2. Marion wanted out, wanted a Max deal, wanted to be the man over Amare.
3. Microfracture. Duh.
4. You want to keep Frye? Really? Was he like, one of our big three?
5. MDA walked because Kerr asked him to improve the D.
6. Kerr, well, I agree with you on that one.
7. Which of those GM's do you want back?
8. Which of those coaches do you want back.

The point is that when Goran was here, we did not have a core that was worthy of holding together. Change was not only inevitable, but necessary. Once you get a championship level core, you can keep it together, if they are young enough.

[Damkac]

Team makes trades and let players go. There is nothing strange in that. Especially if team is rebuilding. Dragic, Frye and Green wasn't a championship core.

[RunDogGun]

Goran's stats are all down, and he is playing off the ball often in Miami. Goran gave up the ball as well, not only here but also in the games I saw in Miami. I agree that the changeover is hurting a lot, but that's what the fans here seem to want.

If Goran knew it was a good thing, he should have stayed and worked it out, but he wanted to leave early in the year, and played like complete crap the first month, save a few games.

As for Bigfoot's list, all those guys wanted to go elsewhere. We offered Amare a contract, that was limited to him playing a majority of the games in the last two seasons, which he must have known he wouldn't be able to do. He left for money. Marion never got the contract he wanted, and complained about lack of respect, at a time when he was the highest paid player on the team. JJ wanted to be the main guy, and with the others, we would never be able to satisfy that.

People should stop asking Goran about our team.

[AtheJ415]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee/status/684473614335373312[/tweet]

Isn't this the truth though. They have

1) a good team with Nash/Marion/Amare/JJ ... let JJ walk
2) a good team with Nash/Marion/Amare ... trade Marion for Shaq
3) a good team with Nash/Amare/Frye ... let Amare walk
4) a good team with Dragic/Bledsoe/Frye ... let Frye walk and sign IT
5) Let MDA walk
6) Let Kerr walk
7) GM cycle (Bryan C, Kerr, Sarver, Babby/Blanks, Babby/McD, McD)
8) Coach cycle (MDA, Porter, Gentry, Hunter, Horny)

A some point the Suns need to create some stability in the organization.

Stability is key, and one of the reason we suck. It impacts culture, happiness, etc.. It's part of the reason I don't buy into us being untalented. I just think our guys don't trust each other, hate playing with one another because they aren't used to each other, and are moping accordingly. We don't have chemistry. How could we?

That said, in my opinion we still need to be moving people. You get talent first, then you stabilize. We have a lot of talent, but not quite enough. I think we're close to getting to the point where we can start stabilizing and building chemistry, but for this year and maybe next, I see us as still in talent accumulation phase, and so I'd prefer we continue to add young guys to our future core, regardless of the shots our former players feel like levying.

[bigfoot]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee/status/684473614335373312[/tweet]

Isn't this the truth though. They have

1) a good team with Nash/Marion/Amare/JJ ... let JJ walk
2) a good team with Nash/Marion/Amare ... trade Marion for Shaq
3) a good team with Nash/Amare/Frye ... let Amare walk
4) a good team with Dragic/Bledsoe/Frye ... let Frye walk and sign IT
5) Let MDA walk
6) Let Kerr walk
7) GM cycle (Bryan C, Kerr, Sarver, Babby/Blanks, Babby/McD, McD)
8) Coach cycle (MDA, Porter, Gentry, Hunter, Horny)

A some point the Suns need to create some stability in the organization.

So you advocate keeping Horny and McD then?

1. There is no way they could pay three max contracts still not have their best player on a max contract.
2. Marion wanted out, wanted a Max deal, wanted to be the man over Amare.
3. Microfracture. Duh.
4. You want to keep Frye? Really? Was he like, one of our big three?
5. MDA walked because Kerr asked him to improve the D.
6. Kerr, well, I agree with you on that one.
7. Which of those GM's do you want back?
8. Which of those coaches do you want back.

The point is that when Goran was here, we did not have a core that was worthy of holding together. Change was not only inevitable, but necessary. Once you get a championship level core, you can keep it together, if they are young enough.

Simply pointing out that there is an awful lot of change under the Sarver regime. Even Nash made mention of the change in players every year. You don't ever gel as a team when you have to have new guys learn the system every year or a coach's new system. Or watch a GM reload a team with "his guys". I'm not saying what we have now is gonna work ... far from it. But once we get something close we should only make minor changes.

[Sonne]

cant thise former players just stfu? damn

[Mulhollanddrive]

We did trade him twice and get 2 other players do his job lol.

[Frank Lee]

Wait until the next round of 'Trade me too' comes out. Phnx is leaving a wake of former players who are happy about NOT being here.

Do you think McDamageControl has hurt or helped his own cause? Has he a tarnished reputation? Look in the recent past.... TheGortat has chimed in, Frye sizzled, the Dragon spewed, the Plum thumbed, IT and Tolliver went from praise to packing bags in a matter of months.... remember the Bledsoe-ian stand off?

Here is a question... Will Bogdan be willing come here ? Would you ? All this drama AND a glut at his position.

McDeepEnd never played the game. He is young, brash, and oh-so-pastey-white. Does he relate well to the players... especially with his asset collecting approach ? There seems to have been communication problems already. Frankly, I sense Bullspit when he speaks.... but I am jaded towards him anyway.

You have to believe players talk about GMs and owners, coaches, working environment.... it seems like such a long time ago when we heard praise about this organization, aside from the standard 'reach around' FAs give upon signing. We have had our share of FO personnel taking the greener pasture too.

The professional approach is not to air laundry, but the wash still gets done somewhere.

[saintEscaton]

LMAO Klay scored as many points against Lakers by himself in the first quarter as the Suns did in entire first half.