2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

King4Day · Post #1641 » by **King4Day** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:43 pm

Not reliable but still, if we do a trade with them, I'd have to think Allen is involved.

TeamTragic · Post #1642 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:43 pm

Warriors better pay up or they aren't getting KD.

BobbieL · Post #1643 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:45 pm

King4Day wrote:Not reliable but still, if we do a trade with them, I'd have to think Allen is involved.

Read on Twitter

Allen for Giga works for me

King4Day · Post #1644 » by **King4Day** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:45 pm

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BobbieL · Post #1645 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:46 pm

TeamTragic wrote:Warriors better pay up or they aren't getting KD.

What would be acceptable?

sunsfan1o1 · Post #1646 » by **sunsfan1o1** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:48 pm

Calvin Klein wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:Pretty much this entire board wanted to trade KD. Now you are complaining about the return?

You can thank Beal for being a selfish prick with his NTC. Ishbia tried to be the nice guy and you see how that turned out.

you can look it up but there's a poll right after the Durant trade where half the board was against it.

At some point when you’re not wanted you have to have some dignity and just move on Bradley Beal. Staying on a team that wants to move you for another guy for months. If the team loses or trades KD cuz there’s no other way, no one will like you.
At some point pride and self respect have to come in play.
I wouldn’t call him selfish because every player would take a ntc if offered. I would just call him a guy with no dignity

handsome salary · Post #1647 » by **handsome salary** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:49 pm

PhxLax wrote:These forums have so much recency bias. The amount of Owner hate is off the charts. Let me ask you: Do u prefer Sarver? Remember THAT?

Ishbia is going the Sarver route of mediocrity to bad just with overspending as the difference. Both inherited quality and neither knew what to do.

TeamTragic · Post #1648 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:50 pm

Kuminga/Green/3FRP plus 3 swaps
for
KD

Warriors then send Wiggins to the Heat and we get Butler. Otherwise we should walk.

Nurkic/FRP for Val
Allen for ???

Puff · Post #1649 » by **Puff** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:53 pm

Trade Bud for any other coach on the planet.

That is what I would do.

TeamTragic · Post #1650 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:54 pm

Puff wrote:Trade Bud for any other coach on the planet.

That is what I would do.

Not sure Bud is the problem. You want to fire another coach?

BobbieL · Post #1651 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:54 pm

TeamTragic wrote:Kuminga/Green/3FRP plus 3 swaps
for
KD/Royce

Warriors then send Wiggins to the Heat and we get Butler. Otherwise we should walk.

Nurkic/FRP for Val
Allen for ???

Royce can’t be traded with KD

If you are trading KD - why would you want Butler? He is as old as Durant

Granted if you get the 3FRps and pick swaps - might be worth butler but I would rather have Wiggins

Butler not wanting Memphis says a lot about him

Slim Charless · Post #1652 » by **Slim Charless** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:58 pm

Puff wrote:Trade Bud for any other coach on the planet.

That is what I would do.

I thought you were leaving?

No one cares about your endlessly negative posts and God awful obsession with the Moronty era.

Leave. Don't come back.

TeamTragic · Post #1653 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:58 pm

Royce probably goes to the Heat. I would say that you don't trade KD unless you are getting back Butler.

The answer to your question about why Butler is because I want Beal to face his wrath :lol:

NavLDO · Post #1654 » by **NavLDO** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:00 pm

Revived wrote:

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Everyone else saying it’s dumb (which is correct) is probably exact reason why Ishbia would do this.

"...Why would the Suns want Butler if they no longer have Durant on the roster? No one asked by The Stein Linehas been able to furnish a good answer to that question..."

THIS!! All day...THIS!! If the goal was to acquire Butler to pair with Booker and Durant, yet Durant is no longer part of the equation, why the heck is Ishbia still considering Butler?? The plan's fallen apart, There's nothing to be gained by doing this. The Suns do NOT increase our chances of success under this scenario, so either stick with what we have, and make some smaller deals, to get better 'fitting' support pieces around Booker and Durant, than we currently have, to shore up our weaknesse this season...or...trade Durant, for as many possible younger pieces/FRPs as we can, to start building for next season...

But continuing on his original trajectory, even though the critical piece to this strategy, just went out the window, makes absolutely zero sense. Gosh, I'm just hoping someone who has 'sway' with Ishbia is pointing this out to him...

TeamTragic · Post #1655 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:01 pm

Per Scoop Ishbia told KD that he is not going to be traded.

Therefore not going to happen. I guess we are not blown away by any offers.

BobbieL · Post #1656 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:03 pm

TeamTragic wrote:Per Scoop Ishbia told KD this morning that he is not going to be traded.

Therefore not going to happen. I guess we are not blown away by any offers.

Scoop is not right very often

Take that FWIW

KdoubleDees23 · Post #1657 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:09 pm

KD isn't getting traded! Luka just started the crazy trade talks. Reality is we need to just get rid of Beal and get Butler. Also, Trade Nurkic. If we cant do that then make some small trades

Bol Bol and 1st protected on one of the Utah crap ones for Yabusele
Nurkic to Atlanta for Bogdan Bogdanovic

Lets run

Jones / Morris
Booker / Allen
Butler/ Bogdanovic
KD / Dunn
Richards / Yabusele

matt131 · Post #1658 » by **matt131** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:10 pm

Read on Twitter

?s=46

I’m interested by this because this dude has never once tried to be an “insider” or say that he has sources or anything like that. He (or she, I guess) just loves tweeting about the suns and analyzing them. Has always seemed fairly professional and mature. I would love to know what the personal connection is, but who actually knows. So much drama. This is the most I’ve paid attention to the suns all season. They’ve been so boring and lame this year.

TeamTragic · Post #1659 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:13 pm

matt131 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=46

I’m interested by this because this dude has never once tried to be an “insider” or say that he has sources or anything like that. He (or she, I guess) just loves tweeting about the suns and analyzing them. Has always seemed fairly professional and mature. I would love to know what the personal connection is, but who actually knows. So much drama. This is the most I’ve paid attention to the suns all season. They’ve been so boring and lame this year.

Well there is definitely smoke but that doesn't mean KD is getting moved unless we get a crazy offer.

Ishbia knows that trading KD is admitting defeat on some level and would need to make up for lost time.

BobbieL · Post #1660 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:15 pm

matt131 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=46

I’m interested by this because this dude has never once tried to be an “insider” or say that he has sources or anything like that. He (or she, I guess) just loves tweeting about the suns and analyzing them. Has always seemed fairly professional and mature. I would love to know what the personal connection is, but who actually knows. So much drama. This is the most I’ve paid attention to the suns all season. They’ve been so boring and lame this year.

He also wants Butler

Which makes no sense if you trade KD