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Post#1661 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Jul 4, 2015 5:59 am

harshey1388 wrote:I know you guys are kidding but can we please not go back to the dark days of Beasley, Childress, and Warrick! :(


And what exactly was wrong with those guys? If the Monstars didn't steal their talent they'd be great NBA players with all-star talents.
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Post#1662 » by TeamTragic » Sat Jul 4, 2015 5:59 am

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harshey1388 wrote:I know you guys are kidding but can we please not go back to the dark days of Beasley, Childress, and Warrick! :(


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Post#1663 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:00 am

He should dance his way to retirement these days.
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Post#1664 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:01 am

JTrain wrote:If someone does a 1+1 deal and opts out, do they lose bird rights?
yes unless its a sign and trade. I was just going to post about this. Been doing some research.

This could be and maybe is why phoenix is in the running. If lma wants the 1+1 and bird rights Portland needs to agree to do a s&t. So if Portland says f it we really don't care about the TPE created and they actually want assets to play ball in a s&t they might ask for 1st rounders from San Antonio. That's a risky thing for San Antonio because lma could still leave next year along with their other gizers and they would be screwed.

This is where phoenix might have an advantage because I would assume Portland would be willing to take keif in a sign and trade (and the suns would need to do it to clear the room to make it happen).

This might actually be the behind the scenes thing that the national media hasn't caught on to and is why phoenix has a true shot.
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Post#1665 » by matt131 » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:02 am

Nando88 wrote:Can something for once not go in the spurs favor and they have to settle for Carlos boozer just this time. I mean come on...


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wait...boozer is a FA? why are we even going after LMA?
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Post#1666 » by Flying Colors » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:04 am

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harshey1388 wrote:I know you guys are kidding but can we please not go back to the dark days of Beasley, Childress, and Warrick! :(


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Post#1667 » by sunsfever68 » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:06 am

Super cool Beas Warrick Childress turkoglu

Ah the summer after losing Amare what a debacle
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Post#1668 » by DRK » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:06 am

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Zero Tolerance wrote:Wasting our time with Aldridge, Hakim Warrick is the guy we need to sign.


I really think our next step should be going for a three-headed dragon at the center slot.

Per 36 in his last season was 13.2/10.3....pretty solid for a backup. He's shown range from the 3 as well....his career 3pt percentage, while low at 25% shows that he can stretch the floor when asked. He's also considered a fan favorite, and has a great attitude. And he'll provide some veteran leadership.










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Post#1669 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:07 am

^^ follow up on my post. To have full bird rights you need 3 years with a team. But trades transfer bird rights so with lma if he leaves on a sign and trade Portland is essentially signing him along with the bird rights to that other team. It's the trump card Portland has in this whole situation. They would get a trade exception even if thwy dont take any assets back but if they plan on taking a year to rebuild they may not care about that and won't just help the spurs and lma for nothing.
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Post#1670 » by Qwigglez » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:08 am

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Nando88 wrote:Can something for once not go in the spurs favor and they have to settle for Carlos boozer just this time. I mean come on...


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wait...boozer is a FA? why are we even going after LMA?


Why would the great Carlos sign with us? He would never even consider it. LMA is at least somewhat interested.
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Post#1671 » by Flying Colors » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:10 am

I can't believe this is what we been reduced too in our waiting
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Post#1672 » by Stix » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:15 am

Flying Colors wrote:I can't believe this is what we been reduced too in our waiting


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Post#1673 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:15 am

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JTrain wrote:If someone does a 1+1 deal and opts out, do they lose bird rights?
yes unless its a sign and trade. I was just going to post about this. Been doing some research.

This could be and maybe is why phoenix is in the running. If lma wants the 1+1 and bird rights Portland needs to agree to do a s&t. So if Portland says f it we really don't care about the TPE created and they actually want assets to play ball in a s&t they might ask for 1st rounders from San Antonio. That's a risky thing for San Antonio because lma could still leave next year along with their other gizers and they would be screwed.

This is where phoenix might have an advantage because I would assume Portland would be willing to take keif in a sign and trade (and the suns would need to do it to clear the room to make it happen).

This might actually be the behind the scenes thing that the national media hasn't caught on to and is why phoenix has a true shot.


That is a huge bonus chip if LaMarcus feels bad about leaving Portland (I'm guessing he does), if we can give them Kieff to seal it, that is huge, if it is important to him to leave Portland with something...SA can't do that....GREAT thought.
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Post#1674 » by Flying Colors » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:19 am

i would much prefer giving kieff to Portland over giving him to Dalla
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WeekapaugGroove wrote:
JTrain wrote:If someone does a 1+1 deal and opts out, do they lose bird rights?
yes unless its a sign and trade. I was just going to post about this. Been doing some research.

This could be and maybe is why phoenix is in the running. If lma wants the 1+1 and bird rights Portland needs to agree to do a s&t. So if Portland says f it we really don't care about the TPE created and they actually want assets to play ball in a s&t they might ask for 1st rounders from San Antonio. That's a risky thing for San Antonio because lma could still leave next year along with their other gizers and they would be screwed.

This is where phoenix might have an advantage because I would assume Portland would be willing to take keif in a sign and trade (and the suns would need to do it to clear the room to make it happen).

This might actually be the behind the scenes thing that the national media hasn't caught on to and is why phoenix has a true shot.


That is a huge bonus chip if LaMarcus feels bad about leaving Portland (I'm guessing he does), if we can give the Kieff to seal it, that is huge, if it is important to him to leave Portland with something...SA can't do that....GREAT thought.
oh its not even lma being sentimental it's a straight up benefit to his pocket book. If he can get Portland to do the sign and trade on a 1+1 he can get a 5 year deal next summer with the highest possible raises. It's in his best financial interest to do so.
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Post#1676 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:25 am

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Flying Colors wrote:I can't believe this is what we been reduced too in our waiting


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I seriously can't tell what player that is. Am I a bad Suns fan? :(
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bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:yes unless its a sign and trade. I was just going to post about this. Been doing some research.

This could be and maybe is why phoenix is in the running. If lma wants the 1+1 and bird rights Portland needs to agree to do a s&t. So if Portland says f it we really don't care about the TPE created and they actually want assets to play ball in a s&t they might ask for 1st rounders from San Antonio. That's a risky thing for San Antonio because lma could still leave next year along with their other gizers and they would be screwed.

This is where phoenix might have an advantage because I would assume Portland would be willing to take keif in a sign and trade (and the suns would need to do it to clear the room to make it happen).

This might actually be the behind the scenes thing that the national media hasn't caught on to and is why phoenix has a true shot.


That is a huge bonus chip if LaMarcus feels bad about leaving Portland (I'm guessing he does), if we can give the Kieff to seal it, that is huge, if it is important to him to leave Portland with something...SA can't do that....GREAT thought.
oh its not even lma being sentimental it's a straight up benefit to his pocket book. If he can get Portland to do the sign and trade on a 1+1 he can get a 5 year deal next summer with the highest possible raises. It's in his best financial interest to do so.


But he could do the 1+1 anywhere right? Us being able to send Kieff to Portland if he cares gives us an edge, if he cares about not leaving Portland empty handed.
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Post#1678 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:26 am

Flying Colors wrote:i would much prefer giving kieff to Portland over giving him to Dalla


Yup, one team is falling while other is rising.
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Post#1679 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:27 am

And why this "full bird rights" rule is in place is so guys don't circumvent the system by singing a 1 year cheap deal with a team over the cap with a "wink wink" deal with that team whos over the cap would use bird rights to pay them a ton of money the next year even though they are over the cap to make up for what they sacrificed in year 1. If it wasn't in place teams like the Nets would do it all the time.
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Post#1680 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jul 4, 2015 6:27 am

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Flying Colors wrote:I can't believe this is what we been reduced too in our waiting


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I seriously can't tell what player that is. Am I a bad Suns fan? :(


No, you are one of the best fans...I don't know either...I figured it was Thornton with a full head of hair.

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