The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason

[lilfishi22]

I would not even trade Booker straight up for George. I only consider trading Booker for Curry, Lebron, or Durant. That is it. Booker is 19. George is 26. Booker did multiple things this past year on par with what only Kobe, Lebron, Durant, and Carmelo ever did as teenagers. Does that mean Booker will be as good as those guys? No. But I sure would like to see him try in a Suns uniform.

Not even for a player like Anthony Davis? Anthony Towns? The #1 pick, etc.? I love Booker too. But, man.

I'd do it for Towns for sure. I'd probably do it for Davis but his health scares me. I don't know if I'd do #1 pick for Booker.

[jtculp2]

We get: Okafor, 24, 26
76ers get: Booker, 13

Booker is great, but Okafor is an offensive stud that is consistent. He is much more capable of altering shots than most think and is extending his range to the 3 point line. I think he could be just like Cousins. Although we're giving up Booker I think it's worth it.

[RaisingArizona]

[Cactus Jack]

We get: Okafor, 24, 26
76ers get: Booker, 13

Booker is great, but Okafor is an offensive stud that is consistent. He is much more capable of altering shots than most think and is extending his range to the 3 point line. I think he could be just like Cousins. Although we're giving up Booker I think it's worth it.

Definitely worth pondering. Really like Okafor.

[lilfishi22]

Appreciate you coming by

[Jarlaxle0204]

[bwgood77]

I would not even trade Booker straight up for George. I only consider trading Booker for Curry, Lebron, or Durant. That is it. Booker is 19. George is 26. Booker did multiple things this past year on par with what only Kobe, Lebron, Durant, and Carmelo ever did as teenagers. Does that mean Booker will be as good as those guys? No. But I sure would like to see him try in a Suns uniform.

Not even for a player like Anthony Davis? Anthony Towns? The #1 pick, etc.? I love Booker too. But, man.

Those were the two other players I had in mind in my reply too (about who the Pacers would consider trading George for). I don't know about the #1 pick though. Who knows exactly how good Booker will be? But same can be said about the #1 pick, and we already know Booker can play, and play pretty well at a very young age. Kobe and Wade don't give praise to too many guys, especially rookies.

[bwgood77]

We get: Okafor, 24, 26
76ers get: Booker, 13

Booker is great, but Okafor is an offensive stud that is consistent. He is much more capable of altering shots than most think and is extending his range to the 3 point line. I think he could be just like Cousins. Although we're giving up Booker I think it's worth it.

[Cactus Jack]

I would not even trade Booker straight up for George. I only consider trading Booker for Curry, Lebron, or Durant. That is it. Booker is 19. George is 26. Booker did multiple things this past year on par with what only Kobe, Lebron, Durant, and Carmelo ever did as teenagers. Does that mean Booker will be as good as those guys? No. But I sure would like to see him try in a Suns uniform.

Not even for a player like Anthony Davis? Anthony Towns? The #1 pick, etc.? I love Booker too. But, man.

Those were the two other players I had in mind in my reply too (about who the Pacers would consider trading George for). I don't know about the #1 pick though. Who knows exactly how good Booker will be? But same can be said about the #1 pick, and we already know Booker can play, and play pretty well at a very young age. Kobe and Wade don't give praise to too many guys, especially rookies.

Him & Biyombo would look good together.

[bwgood77]

We get: Okafor, 24, 26
76ers get: Booker, 13

Booker is great, but Okafor is an offensive stud that is consistent. He is much more capable of altering shots than most think and is extending his range to the 3 point line. I think he could be just like Cousins. Although we're giving up Booker I think it's worth it.

Welcome to the forums, by the way. Always nice to have new people sign up. That being said, what makes you think he's extending his range to the 3 pt line? He made one 3 this year out of six attempts.

That's way too much.

Few people around here, if any are going to want to give up Booker alone for Okafor. If we trade for Okafor, it would have to be for #4, but you'd also have to figure out what to do with our other centers.

[DirtyDez]

We get: Okafor, 24, 26
76ers get: Booker, 13

Booker is great, but Okafor is an offensive stud that is consistent. He is much more capable of altering shots than most think and is extending his range to the 3 point line. I think he could be just like Cousins. Although we're giving up Booker I think it's worth it.

[JMac1]

I would not even trade Booker straight up for George. I only consider trading Booker for Curry, Lebron, or Durant. That is it. Booker is 19. George is 26. Booker did multiple things this past year on par with what only Kobe, Lebron, Durant, and Carmelo ever did as teenagers. Does that mean Booker will be as good as those guys? No. But I sure would like to see him try in a Suns uniform.

Damn straight!

[lilfishi22]

We get: Okafor, 24, 26
76ers get: Booker, 13

Booker is great, but Okafor is an offensive stud that is consistent. He is much more capable of altering shots than most think and is extending his range to the 3 point line. I think he could be just like Cousins. Although we're giving up Booker I think it's worth it.

Seriously though, I think it would be a hard sell even for a straight Booker for Okafor deal on here. Booker is probably the most exciting rookie the Suns have drafted since Amare. It's probably hypoctrical to harp on Okafor's defense because Booker is similarly porous on that end of the court but I feel Booker at least has a game that is very well suited for the modern NBA. Okafor, on the other hand, his game is very much a throwback to the old school, back to basket big men who sticks around the post. He's not particularly fast, nor is he particularly agile either for a big man. Does that mean he's destined for failure? Absolutely not. He'll be able to contribute but I just think Booker would be easier to adapt and therefore has the higher value.

[letsgosuns]

The Suns are anointing Booker as the face of the franchise. He was just named 1st team all-rookie. He has all the tools to be an all-star plus a great attitude. He is only 19 years old. The Suns just finished arguably the worst season in franchise history. Booker was the lone bright spot. Why would a horrible team like the Suns trade their 19 year old, 1st team all-rookie for a player seven years older? It makes no sense. Booker is actually the type of player a rebuilding team like the Suns dream about having.

Do not forget this either. The Suns control Booker for at least the next seven seasons. George can opt-out after the 2017-18 season. Chances are he will opt-out and become an unrestricted free agent and possibly leave whatever team he plays for. Do you want to give up at least seven seasons of Booker for two seasons of George? And what could happen in those two seasons. The Suns do what? Maybe make the playoffs as a low seed and get bounced in the first round and then George takes off to another team. Sounds like a disaster to me.

Three things can happen with Booker versus George. Booker ends up either not as good as George, as good as George, or better than George. Idk which it will be. What I do know is that Booker is the best Suns rookie since Amare and there is no way in hell I am trading him for anything less than Curry, Lebron, or Durant. Not Davis, not Towns, not George. Call me stupid, crazy, an idiot. I do not care. It is not because Booker is better or will be better than any of those players. It is because you do not give away a guy that can be a major piece to a contending team. You add to him. You do not trade him. You give up Booker for George and then what? Your team is still not any good. You need at least two to three all-stars on a team in the NBA to actually contend. George and Bledsoe is no better than George and Monta Ellis. But put together George, Booker, and Bledsoe and now you have the makings of a good team.

[letsgosuns]

We get: Okafor, 24, 26
76ers get: Booker, 13

Booker is great, but Okafor is an offensive stud that is consistent. He is much more capable of altering shots than most think and is extending his range to the 3 point line. I think he could be just like Cousins. Although we're giving up Booker I think it's worth it.

Seriously though, I think it would be a hard sell even for a straight Booker for Okafor deal on here. Booker is probably the most exciting rookie the Suns have drafted since Amare. It's probably hypoctrical to harp on Okafor's defense because Booker is similarly porous on that end of the court but I feel Booker at least has a game that is very well suited for the modern NBA. Okafor, on the other hand, his game is very much a throwback to the old school, back to basket big men who sticks around the post. He's not particularly fast, nor is he particularly agile either for a big man. Does that mean he's destined for failure? Absolutely not. He'll be able to contribute but I just think Booker would be easier to adapt and therefore has the higher value.

Exactly. I have not been this excited about a rookie since Amare's first year. Booker brings that same kind of "I wonder what he will do tonight" excitement to the team.

I think some fans are forgetting how good Booker looked for a 19 year old rookie. It is ridiculous how dominating he was at times for such a young player playing on a bad team. That also gives defenses the opportunity to hone in on him because they did not have to worry about guarding guys like Price or Tucker.

Here are some highlights in case people forgot how well he played:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-CBw1JixSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6D988rbfPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bddNclYumnc
Not many rookies at any age during any season can do what he did.

[bwgood77]

We get: Okafor, 24, 26
76ers get: Booker, 13

Booker is great, but Okafor is an offensive stud that is consistent. He is much more capable of altering shots than most think and is extending his range to the 3 point line. I think he could be just like Cousins. Although we're giving up Booker I think it's worth it.

Also, for future reference, trade ideas should go in the trade thread. I will merge into that one.

[rsavaj]

I love Booker but I'd be really damn pissed at the FO if they turned down guys like Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony Towns for him. I honestly think that would be overrating your own assets to the point of malfeasance.

[bwgood77]

I love Booker but I'd be really damn pissed at the FO if they turned down guys like Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony Towns for him. I honestly think that would be overrating your own assets to the point of malfeasance.

Yes, those would be tough to turn down. I'd have to look at Davis a little closer to see what's up though because he took a MAJOR step back this year...like WAY worse than last year and even worse than the year before...almost down to the level of his rookie season. Not sure why. I know they had injuries, but I thought they did the year before too.

I'm looking mostly at advanced stats TS%, VORP, ORR, Block %, STL %, TOV %.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/davisan02.html

It may be in part to Gentry and particularly trying to shoot more 3s but that shouldn't impact anything other than FG%.

[Cactus Jack]

I love Booker but I'd be really damn pissed at the FO if they turned down guys like Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony Towns for him. I honestly think that would be overrating your own assets to the point of malfeasance.

Finally a rational opinion. As good as Booker was for a rookie. Davis is a top 5 franchise player. Towns meanwhile, was the rookie of the year & put up numbers comparable to Tim Duncan his first year. No way you pass that up.

[DirtyDez]

I'm definitely in the relax-on-the-Booker-hype crowd but you trade for Paul George so Booker can play with him. Trading him in a deal for PG-13 defeats the purpose.

To be really good you need a star (George), borderline (Booker, in time), an upper-echelon starter (Bledsoe when healthy) and quality starters (Len and ?). Scoring off the bench (Knight), versatile wing (Bogdan), 3 & D (PJ) and vet leadership/strong paint presence (Tyson).

The furthest I'd go is a combo of TJ Warren, #4, #13. The probably wouldn't trade him for that pckg in which case we stay the course.