The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2

Walt_Uoob · Post #1661 » by **Walt_Uoob** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:20 am

If it's true that so many picks are being shopped around by teams who would prefer to land a vet, sure that's bad for the trade value of our picks, but maybe it also means we can take advantage and get a mid-first for PJ Tucker, or PJ and a future 2nd.

SunsFanSSOL · Post #1662 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:24 am

I wouldn't be surprised if Archie is traded tomorrow.

bhawk · Post #1663 » by **bhawk** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:30 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Archie is traded tomorrow.

Please make it so... he will never be a starter in the NBA.

saintEscaton · Post #1664 » by **saintEscaton** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:38 am

Archie has MJ's jowl. Surely that counts for something, he's marked for greatness. At the very least he is the second coming of The Flash

SunsFanSSOL · Post #1665 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:40 am

bhawk wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Archie is traded tomorrow.

Please make it so... he will never be a starter in the NBA.

I could see something like #28 + #34 + Archie for #19, #20 or #21.

YouTube · Post #1666 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:47 am

saintEscaton wrote:Archie has MJ's jowl. Surely that counts for something, he's marked for greatness. At the very least he is the second coming of The Flash

letsgosuns · Post #1667 » by **letsgosuns** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:56 am

I do not want to see Archie traded. I still have high hopes for him. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc7NkekGQqI[/youtube]

Post #1668 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:59 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:
bhawk wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Archie is traded tomorrow.

Please make it so... he will never be a starter in the NBA.

I could see something like #28 + #34 + Archie for #19, #20 or #21.

Sounds good to me.

AtheJ415 · Post #1669 » by **AtheJ415** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:22 am

You shouldn't read in to people complaining about this draft. It happens all the time and those opinions are very often proven wrong.

Traveyknicks23 · Post #1670 » by **Traveyknicks23** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:02 am

saintEscaton wrote:
rsavaj wrote:Rose is a terrible player now. I don't like it for the Knicks. Just trying to go after another big name without regard to how well they can play.

Lol they are pursuing Dwight as a RoLo repalcementin order to enter the KD sweepstakes. As if that team stands a chance against the Cavs

Why make up bull tho ? Lol

Post #1671 » by **Qwigglez** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:33 am

Rose/Melo/Dwight would be phenomenal in 2010, but right now who knows. I'd actually be interested in seeing what they can do. Having KP stretch the floor for Dwight will definitely help though.

Post #1672 » by **Qwigglez** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:37 am

GoranTragic wrote:Utah being morons as usual. #4/#13 and a young player for Hayward? GTFO

They are just trying to up Hayward's value. I don't think anyone would give up that kind of package to get him, even if he was on the same contract as let's say Jimmy Butler.
I can't believe they preferred George Hill over Jeff Teague still. I feel like they got swindled and they didn't realize it until after the trade was made.

YouTube · Post #1673 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:12 am

Qwigglez wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:Utah being morons as usual. #4/#13 and a young player for Hayward? GTFO

They are just trying to up Hayward's value. I don't think anyone would give up that kind of package to get him, even if he was on the same contract as let's say Jimmy Butler.
I can't believe they preferred George Hill over Jeff Teague still. I feel like they got swindled and they didn't realize it until after the trade was made.

Hills defense is so so so much greater than Teagues, and you know how Utah loves them some defensive players. I think it totally makes sense for them to nab Hill as he can play both PG and SG, so it gives them versatility while they develop Exum to take over the starting PG spot.

Utah really only plays defensive players. Its their system. Its their identity. Its what they have been known for.

asudevil · Post #1674 » by **asudevil** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:49 am

Kerrsed wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:Utah being morons as usual. #4/#13 and a young player for Hayward? GTFO

They are just trying to up Hayward's value. I don't think anyone would give up that kind of package to get him, even if he was on the same contract as let's say Jimmy Butler.
I can't believe they preferred George Hill over Jeff Teague still. I feel like they got swindled and they didn't realize it until after the trade was made.

Hills defense is so so so much greater than Teagues, and you know how Utah loves them some defensive players. I think it totally makes sense for them to nab Hill as he can play both PG and SG, so it gives them versatility while they develop Exum to take over the starting PG spot.

Utah really only plays defensive players. Its their system. Its their identity. Its what they have been known for.

Personally i think the Hawks went to Teague and told him he would be traded. Then asked him which teams he would resign with. Indy was at the top of the list (his hometown or something), so they accommodated. I'm fairly certain that Utah would have preferred Teague, but he would not be willing to resign with them.

As far as why the Jazz were ok with Hill...well that's another story. I feel like they could have gotten better value.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1675 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:46 am

Kerrsed wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:Archie has MJ's jowl. Surely that counts for something, he's marked for greatness. At the very least he is the second coming of The Flash

Mr Puddles · Post #1676 » by **Mr Puddles** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:29 am

Whatever happens on draft night, I just hope that we don't panic and sell low on any of our assets. People are clearly down on Knight, but I'd be pretty disappointed if we move him for pennies on the dollar.

Many here didn't like having Kieff around for as long as we did, but at the end of the day we basically got the same return for him as Atlanta did for All Star Jeff Teague. That's an amazing return and we need to be patient with our current players as well.

NTB · Post #1677 » by **NTB** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:19 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Suns/status/745922874137927681[/tweet]

It doesn't look like we are gonna trade him...You never know though.

Frank Lee · Post #1678 » by **Frank Lee** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:47 am

We have to keep Bled as we have seen what Knight can and cannot do.... If a trade pops up concerning him, it will have to be of the tastiest type for McMully to nibble. He is already on the hook for a premature swap for BK...(who he could have easily had in free agency, but I regress) McMully does not need to be adding to his second guess list. Besides, Its a put up shut up yr for Bled. The 'gimp' label is in wait for the Tiny Hulk.

Trading Knight opens up room for acquiring DMurray or Valentine or? with a later pick. (Capt Obvious checking in) Frankly though I think we end up select a pg/sg/wingish type for D League duty as injury insurance, just not at #4. I also like what Watson has said regarding passing etc... a shot across the bow maybe? May be Watson can refine/redefine BK. I just don't want to see Booker playing SF to accommodate the redundancy Knight creates....or should I say McMulligan created. I would go for the pick/Gay trade suggested as Gay at least can run PF in small ball situations, and is naturally suited for SF. But then we step on TJ's toes ??? I guess thats what happens when you have a guard /wing heavy team with no PFs and 2 Cs.

BTW.... Bender is the safe pick, IMO. BBIQ trumps the little advantages Chriss may have.

asudevil · Post #1679 » by **asudevil** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:17 am

Frank Lee wrote:We have to keep Bled as we have seen what Knight can and cannot do.... If a trade pops up concerning him, it will have to be of the tastiest type for McMully to nibble. He is already on the hook for a premature swap for BK...(who he could have easily had in free agency, but I regress) McMully does not need to be adding to his second guess list. Besides, Its a put up shut up yr for Bled. The 'gimp' label is in wait for the Tiny Hulk.

Trading Knight opens up room for acquiring DMurray or Valentine or? with a later pick. (Capt Obvious checking in) Frankly though I think we end up select a pg/sg/wingish type for D League duty as injury insurance, just not at #4. I also like what Watson has said regarding passing etc... a shot across the bow maybe? May be Watson can refine/redefine BK. I just don't want to see Booker playing SF to accommodate the redundancy Knight creates....or should I say McMulligan created. I would go for the pick/Gay trade suggested as Gay at least can run PF in small ball situations, and is naturally suited for SF. But then we step on TJ's toes ??? I guess thats what happens when you have a guard /wing heavy team with no PFs and 2 Cs.

BTW.... Bender is the safe pick, IMO. BBIQ trumps the little advantages Chriss may have.

I think our best option is Dunn. His interview on ESPN a few nights ago sealed the deal for me. This kid has a great head on his shoulders and IMO will be stud.

Trade Knight for the #8 or:

Suns trade: Knight/Chandler
Suns get: Asik/Evans/#6

Suns eat a bad contract with a little potential...while gaining a high pick. Evans fills a gap for a year.

Pelicans trade: Asik/Evans/#6
Pelicans get: Kanter/Knight

Pelicans have to start winning now. Knight is a cheapish longterm contact to build with, while Kanter has offence. His D woes could be masked by Davis. NO isnt a FA destination, so they need to build with long term contracts right now.

Thunder trade: Kanter
Thunder get: Chandler

Thunder get their D/Rebound guy. With the hope of both Durrant and Westbrook resigning, they need a big man up front to take them deeper in the playoffs.

Suns draft:
Dunn
Chriss
Sabonis

I'm torn if the suns should resign Tele. The rebuilder in me says just go with youth....Give the kids a chance and let Tucker expire. Wait for Bogdan to come over and roll with in another year:

Len/Asik
Chriss/Sabonis
Warren/Bogdan
Booker/Goodwin
Bledsoe/Dunn

NBA Fiend · Post #1680 » by **NBA Fiend** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:24 am

Some cat on Boston board Paul Gaston. I don't come up with it I just simply pass it along.

I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but a buddy tells me the 76ers might trade Nerlens Noel and Carl Landry to the Suns for Eric Bledsoe. Bledsoe's coming off an injury and apparently the Suns like Noel's defense even though he's heading into the end of his rookie deal. Tyson Chandler didn't work out there, obviously, and they are trying to dump him. Suns are hoping Dunn will be there for them at #4, but there's a growing sentiment that's not happening. Boston is still holding out hope that a bigger fish will become available when they are on the clock (all the names we've heard about), but it's growing more likely they are going to just draft and keep Kris Dunn. If the Suns/Sixers deal goes down and Boston grabs Dunn, my buddy claims that it might end up as a 3-team deal with Boston sending the Suns Marcus Smart (expendable with Dunn) and James Young for Alex Len (who my buddy claims Boston likes) and #13. Boston would then try to trade up using #13 + #16 + #23 to move into the 7-10 range with hopes of that one of their targets will slip and become available (Bender/Hield/Chriss/Brown). But take this with a grain of salt. It's just what my buddy tells me. I honestly don't get the Alex Len thing at all. Isn't he heading into the end of his rookie contract as well? Makes no sense. I honestly don't believe this, but I'm sending it along, because I know this forum loves eating up garbage rumors.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ja4rsud