2017 Trade & Free Agency Ideas & Discussion

Zelaznyrules · Post #1661 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:27 am

alldayeveryday wrote:Say we get the #8 pick from the Knicks... If Bledsoe is shipped out, do you think Suns make a run a Dennis Smith Jr? (The reason I ask is because he was projected to be picked around 8-10 in most mock drafts from what I've read)

No, I don't. I think our experience with Bledsoe will slow down any interest we have in a similar type athlete with a similar injury background. A JJ Reddick with an ACL injury is one thing, an explosive athlete like Smith is quite another.

Revived · Post #1662 » by **Revived** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:28 am

Come on Phil, just accept that you aren't going to get Booker and look at everything else on the Suns roster....

Bledsoe, Ulis, Warren, Chriss, #4, Bender, '18 Miami pick, '21 Miami pick, cap space to absorb Noah

Feel fee to pick any 3 or 4 or maybe even 5 of the assets listed above.

thamadkant · Post #1663 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:30 am

Suns have to accept Noah's contract to get the deal done IMO...
If Suns can offer Pick 4, Bledsoe, Chriss or Bender for Noah, Porzingis... it is the best deal.

matt131 · Post #1664 » by **matt131** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:32 am

1UPZ wrote:Suns have to accept Noah's contract to get the deal done IMO...
If Suns can offer Pick 4, Bledsoe, Chriss or Bender for Noah, Porzingis... it is the best deal.

I agree. That pretty much sums up the day. After Woj's tweet I have a feeling that nothing will actually happen. Boring, but at least we would still have the 4 pick. Just pray that whoever we get turns out to be a stud

Mr Puddles · Post #1665 » by **Mr Puddles** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:35 am

Hesh wrote:Are we really gonna get screwed twice in one go
1. Losing out on Porgz
2. Celts pick Jackson and trade him due to, against better odds, dropping out of the top 3

Life of a sun's fan

*edited

Remember, if it wasn't for us being unlucky AGAIN with lottery odd, we'd actually be holding a top 3 pick now and point 2 wouldn't even have been an issue.

SkinnyOMiller · Post #1666 » by **SkinnyOMiller** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:37 am

matt131 wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Suns have to accept Noah's contract to get the deal done IMO...
If Suns can offer Pick 4, Bledsoe, Chriss or Bender for Noah, Porzingis... it is the best deal.

I agree. That pretty much sums up the day. After Woj's tweet I have a feeling that nothing will actually happen. Boring, but at least we would still have the 4 pick. Just pray that whoever we get turns out to be a stud

I think Porzingis is definitely out the door, just may not be the Suns that he ends up playing for next season.

Hesh · Post #1667 » by **Hesh** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:54 am

Mr Puddles wrote:*edited

Remember, if it wasn't for us being unlucky AGAIN with lottery odd, we'd actually be holding a top 3 pick now and point 2 wouldn't even have been an issue.

Even a gambler's luck changes. We seem to be stuck for eternity though :dontknow:

DirtyDez · Post #1668 » by **DirtyDez** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:57 am

matt131 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
alldayeveryday wrote:

Read on Twitter

*So far

Nothing happening until the third pick.

man i was riding the hype train until woj threw the wet blanket down. they're still asking for booker? i feel like there's been no real talks ever/for a while then

Phil has some inclination of what he's doing. He should be demanding the best packages available at this point from all teams involved.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1669 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:10 am

Think it just comes down to whoever gets Jackson.

Once they have him attach Clarkson/Randle, Brown/Bradley, Bledsoe/Chriss.

If that doesn't work they weren't serious.

Jdiddy701 · Post #1670 » by **Jdiddy701** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:23 am

I don't think Phil Jackson would trade with Boston since they're in the same division and the Lakers don't have exciting young players.

Suns can offer the best package IMO and are the team the Knicks will work with.

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Hesh · Post #1671 » by **Hesh** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:30 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:I don't think Phil Jackson would trade with Boston since they're in the same division and the Lakers don't have exciting young players.

Suns can offer the best package IMO and are the team the Knicks will work with.

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Agreed. If it comes down to us and them I'm confident that it would be us due to everything you just mentioned. They also have us beat in the assets department but we have established and budding players

Revived · Post #1672 » by **Revived** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:34 am

Read on Twitter

Looks like they won't trade him. It's just gonna be a weird relationship and dynamic for them after saying publicly that they might deal him and everything. I'm surprised Porzingis himself hasn't demanded a trade by now considering Phil Jackson's comments and considering they actually looked at the market to read ehim.

Hesh · Post #1673 » by **Hesh** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:44 am

Revived wrote:

Read on Twitter

Looks like they won't trade him. It's just gonna be a weird relationship and dynamic for them after saying publicly that they might deal him and everything. I'm surprised Porzingis himself hasn't demanded a trade by now considering Phil Jackson's comments and considering they actually looked at the market to read ehim.

basically "We're only trading him for a player above his tier"

tgtm_24 · Post #1674 » by **tgtm_24** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:09 am

Hesh wrote:
Revived wrote:

Read on Twitter

Looks like they won't trade him. It's just gonna be a weird relationship and dynamic for them after saying publicly that they might deal him and everything. I'm surprised Porzingis himself hasn't demanded a trade by now considering Phil Jackson's comments and considering they actually looked at the market to read ehim.

basically "We're only trading him for a player above his tier"

Pity Vivek isn't at the Knicks, he'd think Jared Dudley was above KP's tier based on his Boogie trade.

If we can only keep one of Bender or Chriss, who do you want?

MrMiyagi · Post #1675 » by **MrMiyagi** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:28 am

Revived wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
Spoiler:
[color=#BF00FF]CHRISS/BENDER AND JACKSON/TATUM/ISAAC/WHOEVER ELSE WILL HAVE LONGER AND BETTER CAREERS THAN PORZINGIS ALONE. WE CAN HAVE THREE OF THEM, OR ONE AND POZINGIS. I'D RATHER HAVE THE THREE.[/color
]

Quality > Quantity

More Quality > Less Quality. Three very good young players - who fit together I might add - is better than two.

sunskerr · Post #1676 » by **sunskerr** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:46 am

Lmao holy **** a few of you here and on reddit are smoking some crazy **** thinking some combination #4, Bender or Chriss is better to have than KP. KP is close to Anthony-Towns/Jokic tier prospect. This guy averages 18/7 with 2 bpg on 45% FG he is worth every penny. We missed out on Harden in 2012 but this is literally the exact same situation - and these situations with star players on their rookie deals do not come around often at all. It's time to cash in right now, we have to do this if we can pair him with Book.

thamadkant · Post #1677 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:00 am

Knicks need to realize Suns will not trade Booker as the point is to pair Porzingis with Booker.

Bledsoe, Pick 4 (Jackson), Chriss, 2018 Suns Pick
for
Noah, Porzingis

Sounds fair

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1678 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:08 am

You could propose a trade for Michael Jordan in 1990 and there'd be arguments about whether including TJ Warren is too much.

Saberestar · Post #1679 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:09 am

1UPZ wrote:Knicks need to realize Suns will not trade Booker as the point is to pair Porzingis with Booker.

Bledsoe, Pick 4 (Jackson), Chriss, 2018 Suns Pick
for
Noah, Porzingis

Sounds fair

I would prefer to give more picks before giving up Chriss. He improved so much in the second part of the season.

Bledsoe, #4, Knight, both Miami picks and another future first. We add Noah and Porzingis.

thamadkant · Post #1680 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:13 am

Saberestar wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Knicks need to realize Suns will not trade Booker as the point is to pair Porzingis with Booker.

Bledsoe, Pick 4 (Jackson), Chriss, 2018 Suns Pick
for
Noah, Porzingis

Sounds fair

I would prefer to give more picks before giving up Chriss. He improved so much in the second part of the season.

Bledsoe, #4, Knight, both Miami picks and another future first. We add Noah and Porzingis.

If you arent giving up Booker... you have to give up an appealing young player with good potential.... Bender hasnt played enough.... Chriss is it.