Years90Suns wrote:NavLDO wrote:GoranTragic wrote:
Have you seen how much our conference has improved?
I'm sorry, but are McD's hands tied? Is he not allowed to play in FA with the rest of the GMs? That's a cop-out, IMO. McD needs to get creative, take the assets we have, make our OWN trades to get better. There are players out there to be had; McD just needs to find the right pkg of players and picks to bring it home. And no, I'm not suggesting going after players like Dwight Howard, but I am showing that players like Paul, Gallinari, and George can be had for the right pkg of assets, which we now have PLENTY of.
Exhibit A...
Chris Paul was acquired by the Houston Rockets from the Los Angeles Clippers in exchange for Patrick Beverley, Sam Dekker, Montrezl Harrell, Darrun Hilliard, DeAndre Liggins, Lou Williams, Kyle Wiltjer, cash and a TPE.
Exhibit B...
Victor Oladipo and Domas Sabonis were acquired by the Indiana Pacers from the Oklahoma City Thunder in exchange for Paul George and multiple TPEs.
Exhibit C...
A TPE was acquired by the Denver Nuggets in exchange for Danilo Gallinari. Danilo Gallinari was acquired by the Los Angeles Clippers in exchange for Jamal Crawford, Diamond Stone and cash. Jamal Crawford, Diamond Stone and cash were acquired by the Atlanta Hawks.
Exhibit D...
Dwight Howard was acquired by the Charlotte Hornets from the Atlanta Hawks in exchange for Marco Belinelli and Miles Plumlee.
I understand your point, but let's imagine that we had got George, Anthony, Love or Paul.
Cannot you see there a little disadjustement in the developement of our young players and that of the newly acquired star.
I believe a roster needs a balance in the talent of its components.
In addition, getting a star in his prime now would not offer us any assurance of fighting for a ring in the nextcouple of years.
The movements we should make and will probably make are those that, as you say, provide us with some veteran presence, while we get rid of some picks. But the players that we potentially get should be players similar to Chandler, Barbosa, Dudley, Tucker... those are the kind of players we need in order to show our youngs how to play and win, but they need to be younger that those guys and slightly better.
We are at the point of turning the point by adding some veteran players that do not interfere with the developement of our real stars of the future. May be at some point we can get a guy like the Celtics did with Hayward, but they already had players like Horford, Crowder, Bradley and IT, proven veterans that teach the youngs (Brown, Tatum, Smart).
I understand your point, as well, but I think we are selling our guys short. And I like what teams like the NO Pelicans, OKC, and Minny Wolves are doing; they are surrounding their 'star' with more 'stars' to at least have a 'duo' to work from...and sorry, I do not see Bledsoe in that class...not quite.
The NO Pelicans realize they are going no where with Anthony Davis and a bunch of 'good', not 'great' players, and poof, they trade for Cousins. Now they have AD and Boogie, and a young wing they traded up for in Frank Jackson, plus a 'good' PG in Jrue.
Minnesota had Wiggins, and KAT, and LaVine, And Muhammed, and Dieng, and then Dunn...all this young talent...but like us, not enough plaes for them all. So now, they've consolidated, taken their assets, and have Butler.
OKC loses Durant...realizes that beyond Westbrook's INSANE season, he needs help, the go get it by taking on George, and STILL have Adams and a couple other talents.
The Sixers finally realized that 5 PF/Cs cannot play at the same time and have consolidated as well. Redick may not be a 'Star', but he'd darn close and in the 'very good' catergory, with his 45% 3PTshooting the past 3 years. Now, they have Fultz, Simmons, and hopefully a healthy Embiid to work with Redick.
Each team is different, and has different needs. Alan Williams and Len are 'ok', but we lack a stud at the 5, which is why I advocate going after someone like Drummond or Valanciunas.
Bringing in one of these guys by selling off some of our assets would be wise, and someone young like Drummond, Valanciunas,, Nurkic, or even Vucevic would fit in perfect (age-wise, at least). They are somewhat established, and IMO, be the talent infusion we need to make us competitive. Then, next season, during FA, we have a young, competitive team that a FA may want to come to, in order to push us over the hump.
And I've listed the viable assets in previous posts that were deemed 'trash' by some...not sure anyone in the NBA believes Warren is trash, but whatever, but we have assets. And while it would be nice to keep them all and ask another team to give us a great player for a package of Dudley, Knight, and Chandler, but that's not happening. What COULD happen, though, would be some sort of compilation of 3-to-4 of the following: Warren, Chriss OR Bender, 2018 Mia 1st, our 1st, Chandler, Ulis, DJ Jr., S&T Len, S&T Williams, and of course, Dudley and Knight, if desired.
What-you say??? Bender or Chriss??? Well, depend on the player, because you have to remember that still leaves us with our core to build off of:
PG-Bledsoe
SG-Booker
SF-Jackson
PF-Bender or Chriss
With the Center being the prize, so now we have, assuming it's Chriss they want, and let's say our pick, and Warren...pretty decent return, IMO...:
PG-Bledsoe, Ulis, Knight
SG-Booker, Reed, Milsap
SF-Jackson, DJ Jr.
PF-Bender, Dudley
C-Valanciunas, Chandler, Williams
Or whatever you want to put together, but point is, we've collected all we can collect, let's start to build, and the 1st step is to TRADE for one of these 'good-to-great' Centers...and if the ones I listed are not what you like, pick any number of other ones; I don't care. The point is, it gets us another 12-15 wins, hopefully, and gets a FA to take notice and want to come the next year via FA.
