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The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3

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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#1681 » by BobbieL » Sat Jun 28, 2025 10:10 pm

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Should get some decent draft capital from Richards.


Do you think they can get two seconds or three seconds?

5m contract -- some team with a TPE can take him on
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#1682 » by Sunsdeuce » Sat Jun 28, 2025 10:35 pm

The demand for Nick Richard’s is high because the demand for centers is high. Anything less than two 2nd rounders is a nonstarter
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#1683 » by BobbieL » Sat Jun 28, 2025 10:42 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:The demand for Nick Richard’s is high because the demand for centers is high. Anything less than two 2nd rounders is a nonstarter


And just as important, zero dollars coming back

i wish there were a team with a 10m TPE that could take O'Neale for a future 2nd

Allen + Richards + O'Neale + Martin is currently $40.7m

Well 13.7 of that is easy as they can just not pick up options on Martin and Richards but..

Out of the 27 left - if they can get 5, 7, maybe 10m from Royce and Grayson - that gets them under the 2nd apron
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#1684 » by KdoubleDees23 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 11:37 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:The demand for Nick Richard’s is high because the demand for centers is high. Anything less than two 2nd rounders is a nonstarter


Get a PG . Don't get 2nd rounders.
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#1685 » by Sunsdeuce » Sat Jun 28, 2025 11:46 pm

KdoubleDees23 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:The demand for Nick Richard’s is high because the demand for centers is high. Anything less than two 2nd rounders is a nonstarter


Get a PG . Don't get 2nd rounders.

Let’s do it
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#1686 » by BobbieL » Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:42 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:The demand for Nick Richard’s is high because the demand for centers is high. Anything less than two 2nd rounders is a nonstarter


Get a PG . Don't get 2nd rounders.



All depends on if Ishbia wants to be under apron levels

Can just keep bringing salary and be able to make trades, buyout market etc.

The Pg you get for Richards will basically be a veteran minimum player.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1687 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:52 am

I’m
Confused which thread we are using officially. Going back and forth with the draft one.
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#1688 » by sasquatchBob » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:00 am

TeamTragic wrote:Ty Jerome is now available. Can we get him?

Apparently he wants 14M.


I dont think he fits our team. We need a PG that plays defense. Someone like Holiday would be great if he wasnt washed and that expensive
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1689 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:52 am

NBA Trade Rumors: Phoenix Suns’ $251,019,650 superstar predicted to land in Atlanta Hawks to form deadly duo with Trae Young | NBA News

https://www.rawchili.com/nba/132751/

“Atlanta Hawks guard Trae Young (11) controls the ball against the Orlando Magic in the first quarter at Kia Center. (Image via Nathan Ray Seebeck-Imagn Images). The Atlanta Hawks are making waves in the offseason as potential suitors for Phoenix Suns guard Bradley Beal. With +400 odds to land the three-time All-Star, per Bovada, Atlanta is among the favorites to pull off a major trade before the 2025-26 NBA season tips off.

Why the Atlanta Hawks Are Targeting Bradley Beal

The Atlanta Hawks have aggressively retooled their roster around Trae Young and a promising young core. Adding a proven scorer like Beal could elevate them from playoff hopefuls to genuine contenders in the Eastern Conference. Beal, a 6’4” guard, brings veteran leadership and scoring punch. Despite recent injury struggles, his track record as a 20+ PPG scorer makes him an attractive option for Atlanta.”
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#1690 » by garrick » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:53 am

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Should get some decent draft capital from Richards.


Do you think they can get two seconds or three seconds?

5m contract -- some team with a TPE can take him on


Would it be better to sign to him to an extension and then trade him? His contract is fantastic for what it is a big body that can come off the bench and finish inside and rebound at a good rate.

Even at 10M he would be good value but I would balk at paying him say 15-20M with two other centers already on our roster.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1691 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:02 am

Some good info:

NBA Trade Rumors Roundup: Suns talk Devin Booker extension, Beal open to trade, LeBron option with Lakers
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-roundup-more-kevin-durant-trade-rumors-including-jrue-holiday-involved-in-deal

“Beal open to trade but it’s unlikely

Bradley Beal is owed $110 million over the next two seasons and holds a no-trade clause that would let him reject a trade anywhere he doesn’t want to live and play. That means Beal is likely to be on the Suns next season, and new coach Jordan Ott will play him heavy minutes early in the season, hoping to raise his trade value.

Beal is “open” to a trade, Fred Katz reports at The Athletic, but that comes with conditions:

Beal would be open to the right trade that sends him to the right destination, but his preference is to remain in Phoenix, even if the team won only 35 games a season ago and just downgraded from Kevin Durant, who it dealt to the Houston Rockets last weekend.

Beal will make an average of $55 million each of the next two years, and this is a player most teams believe to be worth more like $15 million a season at this point in his career (Katz confirmed that for The Athletic). No team is taking on that extra cash without some draft picks as sweeteners, and it’s going to take a lot of them. Which is another reason a Beal trade is unlikely.

Some fans and media reports have suggested the Suns should waive-and-stretch Beal, which would open up a roster spot and spread his contract over the next five years ($22 million a season of dead money on the books). The problem, as Katz notes, is that because the Suns have already waived-and-stretched Nassir Little and E.J. Liddell, doing the same to Beal would put the Suns over the little-known rule that only 15% of a team’s cap space can be used on stretched players. The Suns could ask Beal to shave $13.7 million off his contract to facilitate getting waived, but Beal has shown zero interest in taking a haircut in the past.

The reality is that the Suns are going to stay in the Bradley Beal business for a while.“


1) what is the “right situation “? No one knows that answer expect Beal

2) stretch and waive is out fo the question.

3) Gambo and Flex can talk out their rear ends (at least they should turn around so we can here them) about Beal being off this team before the season starts for attention but reality says something different.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1692 » by TeamTragic » Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:15 am

Beal can be a nice trade chip IF we see Giannis request a trade.

Hold onto him unless we are getting a player that fills a current need.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1693 » by dremill24 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:25 am

TeamTragic wrote:Beal can be a nice trade chip IF we see Giannis request a trade.

Hold onto him unless we are getting a player that fills a current need.


Connect these dots for me?
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1694 » by TeamTragic » Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:29 am

dremill24 wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:Beal can be a nice trade chip IF we see Giannis request a trade.

Hold onto him unless we are getting a player that fills a current need.


Connect these dots for me?


I just meant he could be included in a multi-team trade especially if Bucks want to tank.

You would need outgoing salary and I believe they are in the second tax apron.

Beal is an expiring next summer and the Bucks can trade him or resign him to lead their tank.
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Re: 2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion 

Post#1695 » by Slim Charless » Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:30 am

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Its truly been "House Suns/Hornets" :lol: since last year. If this happens, this will be like the 4th trade we have done with them in less than a calendar year?!?! Do we have some dirt on them? :lol:


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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1696 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:55 am

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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1697 » by thamadkant » Sun Jun 29, 2025 3:08 am

TeamTragic wrote:Beal can be a nice trade chip IF we see Giannis request a trade.

Hold onto him unless we are getting a player that fills a current need.



Maybe even wait a bit longer and SGA or Jokic becomes available.








There's a zero chance Giannis even contemplates Phoenix.

You cannot be serious with your proposal for Giannis.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1698 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jun 29, 2025 3:21 am

thamadkant wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:Beal can be a nice trade chip IF we see Giannis request a trade.

Hold onto him unless we are getting a player that fills a current need.



Maybe even wait a bit longer and SGA or Jokic becomes available.
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There's a zero chance Giannis even contemplates Phoenix.

You cannot be serious with your proposal for Giannis.

I don’t think the point was Giannis coming to Phx. I think the point was being a third team to help make the trade happen
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1699 » by TeamTragic » Sun Jun 29, 2025 3:40 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
thamadkant wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:Beal can be a nice trade chip IF we see Giannis request a trade.

Hold onto him unless we are getting a player that fills a current need.



Maybe even wait a bit longer and SGA or Jokic becomes available.
.

There's a zero chance Giannis even contemplates Phoenix.

You cannot be serious with your proposal for Giannis.

I don’t think the point was Giannis coming to Phx. I think the point was being a third team to help make the trade happen


Just let him rage because he has nothing better to do.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1700 » by Saberestar » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:01 am

Zach Lowe:
“Some people around the league have suggested to me the Miami Heat could turn like Duncan Robinson plus Terry Rozier plus whatever into Bradley Beal. The Heat have had chances to get Beal before and haven't done it. Is the price that low gonna entice them?”

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