Qwigglez wrote:NavLDO wrote:
While it may not be a great trade proposal, I fail to see how it doesn't make any sense. Portaland is struggling with it's "bigs" rotation, as was discovered last night when they pretty much had an 11 man rotation. They need help at PF, hence Kieff. In replacing Kieff, we get Sullinger, and why it makes sense for Boston is that they are collecting expirings like it's going out of style, so they trade two players with 2 years remaining, with expirings. Now, yes, the value for Boston is poor, but they get, IMO, a better player in Green, yet, a much worse player at PF. We could throw in a 1st for additional compensation, since they are collecting draft picks as well.
We get Matthews, who is better than Green, but would have to hope he'd sign with us in the off-season, and Sullinger, who upgrades Kieff.
So I don't get why this doesn't make sense? Again, maybe a bit uneven on value, but that can be fixed with draft pick compensation.
For us, Kieff fits our style of play better than Sullinger would. I would definitely love some Wes Mathews, but don't we have enough wings? If he's taking over Green's spot on the bench I doubt he'll stick around after this season. If we move Mathews to the three spot, that's cool. If we didn't have to give up the Morris bros I would be all for it.
For the Blazers I just don't think Turner is a good fit. And I mostly don't care about what Boston gets out of the deal, lol.
All in all, I feel like it's a trade that is made for the sake of making a trade.
Well, if you think Kieff is a better player for us than Sully, than I could see your point, but I don't agree. Sully instantly upgrades our defense and rebounding, while still providing a comparable offensive game. Plus, add in the fact that he's three years younger, on a cheaper contract, and it tells me he still has room for improvement/development, whereas Kieff is pretty much what he is at this point--I don't see him improving much more. And take into account that I am one of Kieff's biggest "fanboys" out there. Here's a comparison of their 2nd season in the NBA:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 4=&p5=&p6=and 3rd:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 4=&p5=&p6=So, this shows me that Sullinger has an opportunity to more likely, ultimately, be better than Kieff.
And Wes Matthews would give us the flexibility in the offseason. Considering this trade was completed, this Marcus and Green are gone, it allows us to consider trading IT, PJ, Goran, Zoran, Warren, Goodwin, and Bullock. Now, I'm not suggesting we trade all of these players, I'm just saying that with a solid a player like Matthews, he will get his minutes, just like IT does--even as a "back-up", he's getting 26 minutes per game, so surely, Matthews wouldn't balk at those kind of minutes.
And maybe Turner isn't a great fit for Portland, but while they "downgrade" a bit at the 2, they get solid PF depth, which would help them more than hurt them, IMO.
So, this really isn't just a shuffling of players, or a trade for the sake of making a trade, this actually improves our team and flexibility in building a roster, if you ask me. You may not agree, and that's fair, but this certainly isn't just, again, for the sake of making a trade--this is actually an attempt to make us better.
And while most here disagree, I think this is one of my more better trade proposals--of course, that's not saying much, is it!
