Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[JTrain]

salty because they took LMA for his word and got burnt

What was the word?

[saintEscaton]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/status/616344498944151553[/tweet]

Makes sense.

Probably started out something like...

"Okay LaMarcus here are the many ways we can get Kobe the ball..."

Not gunna lie. I'm not rooting for the Lakes to improve just so that the BKnight trade is validated as the right move. They are probably lotto bound once again. This is schadenfreude

[RaisingArizona]

My take: If Chandler gets us LMA, it's a brilliant move. If not, it's a terrible move. He will be 33 at the beginning of the season. Wright will be 28. Wright is already one of the most efficient players in the league. He could have been a huge asset for us in 2-3 years when we have the tools to win. Chandler will be declining significantly in 2-3 years.

Without any other additions, this looks like another battling-for-8th-seed team. Purgatory.

We took the risk to get out of your so called purgatory. Have to give props to our FO for even being in race at this point.

[saintEscaton]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/status/616344498944151553[/tweet]

Not gunna lie I'm not rooting for the Fakers to improve just so that the Bknight deal can be valdiated as the right move. They are probably lotto bound again next season but thankfully its a historically terribled draft class. Watching them strike out schadenfreude. Guess branding alone gets you nothing

[SkinnyOMiller]

So Chandler and Aldridge has to be under cap, so why are we planning to give up assets for UFA?

Yup. Blazers FO doens't want to help other teams to clear cap space in pursuit of him and are still salty because they took LMA for his word and got burnt and still believe they are in contention with the texas frontrunners

Salty or not, if he doesn't sign with Phoenix and instead goes to the Spurs, they get NOTHING.


Suns could offer Cleveland's 1st rounder next year, maybe somee role players like Tucker and Marcus Morris which I would think is better than getting nothing at all.


Its like when Joe Johnson left and the Suns got Diaw back. Sure it wasn't a great pickup at the time but way better than nothing.

[Stix]

If we whiff of LMA, there is still Draymond and Tobias Harris out there.

[starbosa10]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 29s29 seconds ago
Suns GM Ryan McDonough and staff -- with Tyson Chandler -- still in meeting with Aldridge now in Los Angeles, sources tell Yahoo.

[JTrain]

My take: If Chandler gets us LMA, it's a brilliant move. If not, it's a terrible move. He will be 33 at the beginning of the season. Wright will be 28. Wright is already one of the most efficient players in the league. He could have been a huge asset for us in 2-3 years when we have the tools to win. Chandler will be declining significantly in 2-3 years.

Without any other additions, this looks like another battling for 8th seed team. Purgatory.

It's a little early to be so black and white on the deal. The fourth year could be a team option. There could be non-guaranteed money.

Neither of those factors changes my main point. Chandler alone keeps us in purgatory and the loss of Wright hurts us down the road. If we are set up to win now (adding LMA) fantastic. If not, I don't see anything good about it.

[Revived]

Someone answer my question...if we sign and trade with Portland, can we offer more money and years than we would have been able to by signing him out right?

Or is sign and trading with Portland only beneficial for us to clear cap space?

Yes. LMA could receive the true max, 5 years with 7.5% raise every year vs. 4 years with 4.5% raises every year.

The S&T may be attractive to him to:

1. Get some talent back to Portland
2. Get dollar bills

No that is against league rules now. He cannot sign for 5 years and get traded. They changed the rules in 2011. He only gets the max 5 year contract if he signs with Portland and stays there. If he is signed and traded, the max is four years.

Isn't that max regardless?

So basically there's no advantage to sign and trade except for us clearing cap room?

[rsavaj]

My take: If Chandler gets us LMA, it's a brilliant move. If not, it's a terrible move. He will be 33 at the beginning of the season. Wright will be 28. Wright is already one of the most efficient players in the league. He could have been a huge asset for us in 2-3 years when we have the tools to win. Chandler will be declining significantly in 2-3 years.

Without any other additions, this looks like another battling for 8th seed team. Purgatory.

It's a little early to be so black and white on the deal. The fourth year could be a team option. There could be non-guaranteed money.

Neither of those factors changes my main point. Chandler alone keeps us in purgatory and the loss of Wright hurts us down the road. If we are set up to win now (adding LMA) fantastic. If not, I don't see anything good about it.

They saw a chance at getting the big fish, so they went for it. That's a good thing. Sucks if it doesn't work out, but I'm happy they tried.

Swear to god, feels like fans treat this FO with a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" mentality

[Mulhollanddrive]

Does this work:

S+T Wright for Chandler.
S+T Cleveland, Miami, Miami, Phoenix 1sts and Goodwin for Aldridge.

Keep everyone and then Chandler, Aldridge, Knight are all able to go over cap.

Use MLE and Vet Exemptions to Fill Roster.

[Saberestar]

With or without Aldridge, Chandler's addition is a big one. He is exactly what we needed : rebounding, intimidating presence, veteran leadership, strong defender in the post and he is respected by the officials.
Hornacek is happy now for sure.

[PassWarden]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/616347005112061952[/tweet]

That bodes well for us.

[Revived]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 29s29 seconds ago
Suns GM Ryan McDonough and staff -- with Tyson Chandler -- still in meeting with Aldridge now in Los Angeles, sources tell Yahoo.

Gosh I would pay how much ever a front row seat at Suns games costs to be sitting in on that meeting.

[blee732]

My take: If Chandler gets us LMA, it's a brilliant move. If not, it's a terrible move. He will be 33 at the beginning of the season. Wright will be 28. Wright is already one of the most efficient players in the league. He could have been a huge asset for us in 2-3 years when we have the tools to win. Chandler will be declining significantly in 2-3 years.

Without any other additions, this looks like another battling-for-8th-seed team. Purgatory.

We took the risk to get out of your so called purgatory. Have to give props to our FO for even being in race at this point.

Totally agree with this. You never win big if you never play. Even if LMA doesn't work out, I love the change in mindset from the time when Sarver was selling draft picks for cash and refused to give JJ that $10M/yr contract.

[sunsbum]

My take: If Chandler gets us LMA, it's a brilliant move. If not, it's a terrible move. He will be 33 at the beginning of the season. Wright will be 28. Wright is already one of the most efficient players in the league. He could have been a huge asset for us in 2-3 years when we have the tools to win. Chandler will be declining significantly in 2-3 years.

Without any other additions, this looks like another battling-for-8th-seed team. Purgatory.

You realize everything after your first 2 sentences is purely guessing and baseless speculation on your part right? Brandon Wright is not a better basketball player than TC. Hes also a PF not a CENTER. so theres that.

[bwgood77]

So Chandler and Aldridge has to be under cap, so why are we planning to give up assets for UFA?

No. They don't. One of them does, but we have flexibility in which one to get via S&T. Lots of flexibility.

Key is: $12 mil in cap space.
PJ and Marcus can create $10 mil in space. PJ should be easy to trade to any contender. Marcus, due to the legal issues, may need a pick attached.

We can sign people in any order into the cap space. The only certainty is that any of our bird rights will have to be last, so that means Knight is last.

So, if Portland wanted a king's ransom for Aldridge (Bledsoe), we could simply trade PJ and Marcus, sign Aldridge, and then do a S&T to get Chandler.

Or, if we wanted to keep Brandon Wright, we could S&T for both and not renounce his rights, but that would almost certainly have to mean Bledsoe is out, which wouldn't make sense.

Zach Lowe is tweeting that Dallas and Phx could do a double sign and trade with Wright and Chandler.

[RaisingArizona]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 29s29 seconds ago
Suns GM Ryan McDonough and staff -- with Tyson Chandler -- still in meeting with Aldridge now in Los Angeles, sources tell Yahoo.

Seal the deal, McD!

[Stix]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/616347005112061952[/tweet]

That bodes well for us.

How long have they been in there for?

[GetYourPHX]

Someone answer my question...if we sign and trade with Portland, can we offer more money and years than we would have been able to by signing him out right?

Or is sign and trading with Portland only beneficial for us to clear cap space?

Yes. LMA could receive the true max, 5 years with 7.5% raise every year vs. 4 years with 4.5% raises every year.

The S&T may be attractive to him to:

1. Get some talent back to Portland
2. Get dollar bills

No that is against league rules now. He cannot sign for 5 years and get traded. They changed the rules in 2011. He only gets the max 5 year contract if he signs with Portland and stays there. If he is signed and traded, the max is four years.

You're right, I'm wrong again.

Not on fire today!