Draft Discussion Part 3

[JMac1]

@stevekylerNBA: Continue to hear Jonathan Isaac is their guy at 4, unless someone falls.

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for Jackson

At least we know who we want.

Jackson or Isaac... I'm cool.

[RaisingArizona]

If we get Ball and Isaac! Holy snikes. I will be beyond happy.

[MrMiyagi]

Man draft day is going to be interesting. Feels like the only sure thing is Fultz going #1 right now.

I think there's a good chance we'll be choosing between Ball and Jackson. I think LA likes Fox more than Ball at this point, and I think Boston wants Tatum. Should be interesting to see how things actually end up on Thursday.

[AtheJ415]

I want Isaac. Maybe more than Jackson at this point. That said, my hope is we reset the PG position in this draft also. Trade Bledsoe and take on salary or others to get Russell or Ball, or else trade Bledsoe in the back end of the lottery and get DSJ or Ntilikina.

The Ball (pun intended) seems to be in the Laker's court here. What they do/what they are willing to trade for George or to clear cap space to pair George with others in a year will decide how this goes.

[rsavaj]

100% cool with Jackson or Isaac. Slightly less so with Tatum but he'd be okay too.

[JMac1]

Lakers aren't trading assess, why would they when PG is going there as people here say?

[darealjuice]

Man draft day is going to be interesting. Feels like the only sure thing is Fultz going #1 right now.

I think there's a good chance we'll be choosing between Ball and Jackson. I think LA likes Fox more than Ball at this point, and I think Boston wants Tatum. Should be interesting to see how things actually end up on Thursday.

I'm not sure what to think. I'm still a believer that Ball is going to be a Laker, but there was the rumor that Jackson had a promise in the top 3 before Sixers traded up, so does that imply it was from the Lakers now that the Sixers have moved up to #1 and he reportedly hasn't met with Boston yet (and supposedly spurned them for the Lakers and Sixers)? I don't think that the Celtic's would move back to 3 without knowing they'll get their guy at #3 (unless they were fine with either Ball or JJ, neither of whom they've seen yet), so that could imply they're going for someone who they know will be on the board like Tatum or even Isaac?

I personally don't see a scenario where both Ball and Jackson fall to us, but I can see either or neither dropping. I wonder if these rumors about us loving Isaac are the real deal or not, it would make some sense since we've seen him twice.

[AtheJ415]

Lakers aren't trading assess, why would they when PG is going there as people here say?

Because a team of PG and that crew isn't contending with GSW. They will need to move on from Deng and/or Mozgov eventually, and in fact have earlier just last week stated they were open to trading everybody except for Ingram. Moving Deng and Mozgov allows you to add another piece (Griffin, Hayward, Lebron maybe if he opts out, etc.) in FA while also getting George.

It's about cap space to get somebody on top of George.

[blee732]

Lakers aren't trading assess, why would they when PG is going there as people here say?

Bird rights. I believe they have more cap flexibility if they have George already in 2018, wait to resign him, use the space to nab other FAs, then resign PG over the cap. If they waited until 2018, it would limit how far over the cap they can go to build a super team.

[Saberestar]

I would really prefer that we don't give up any assets to bring in PG for a year before he bolts to LA. I don't mind being the 3rd team to help facilitate the trade with salaries in return for assets though.

That's what I understood from that tweet.

Yeah, I think that we can facilitate George to the Lakers eating a big contract from the Lakers.

It seems that we are interested in bring a veteran player that can defend and play the right way on offense. We have been linked to Iguodala and Joe Ingles....so Luol Deng makes sense to me.

Yeah, I think he is done as an important player , but at the same time he is one of the most respected players around the league and he is good enough to play some minutes coming from the bench. He can play some minutes at SF and PF, and with him here don't need to sign any other guy (veteran or not veteran).

We need to unload Knight on another trade, because I don't want to have more than one "really bad" contract on our roster.

What can we receive from the Lakers? A future lottery protected first round pick or even this year's #28 pick.

[Blonde]

I'm good with basically every outcome on Thursday besides taking Isaac at 4 and calling it a day. He's not a SF. But if we do take him I'll be rooting for him and hoping he proves me wrong. I'd love either Tatum, Jackson, Ball, and maybe Fox or DSJ. I see star potential in all of them.

[DirtyDez]

Lakers aren't trading assess, why would they when PG is going there as people here say?

Bird rights. I believe they have more cap flexibility if they have George already in 2018, wait to resign him, use the space to nab other FAs, then resign PG over the cap. If they waited until 2018, it would limit how far over the cap they can go to build a super team.

His cap hold would be enormous right? I think their only shot at a superteam would've been if Lebron were a FA this summer.

Trade Ingram/Deng for PG. #2/Mosgov for another star and sign Lebron.

[Kerrsed]

Yeah, I think that we can facilitate George to the Lakers eating a big contract from the Lakers.

It seems that we are interested in bring a veteran player that can defend and play the right way on offense. We have been linked to Iguodala and Joe Ingles....so Luol Deng makes sense to me.

Yeah, I think he is done as an important player , but at the same time he is one of the most respected players around the league and he is good enough to play some minutes coming from the bench. He can play some minutes at SF and PF, and with him here don't need to sign any other guy (veteran or not veteran).

We need to unload Knight on another trade, because I don't want to have more than one "really bad" contract on our roster.

What can we receive from the Lakers? A future lottery protected first round pick or even this year's #28 pick.

It has to be something good, as you dont take on $53M of guaranteed money over the next 3 years for a player who isnt going to contribute ****. The #28 isnt going to cut it. I dont think i would even do it for a lotto protected future 1st either.

[Saberestar]

Yeah, I think that we can facilitate George to the Lakers eating a big contract from the Lakers.

It seems that we are interested in bring a veteran player that can defend and play the right way on offense. We have been linked to Iguodala and Joe Ingles....so Luol Deng makes sense to me.

Yeah, I think he is done as an important player , but at the same time he is one of the most respected players around the league and he is good enough to play some minutes coming from the bench. He can play some minutes at SF and PF, and with him here don't need to sign any other guy (veteran or not veteran).

We need to unload Knight on another trade, because I don't want to have more than one "really bad" contract on our roster.

What can we receive from the Lakers? A future lottery protected first round pick or even this year's #28 pick.

It has to be something good, as you dont take on $53M of guaranteed money over the next 3 years for a player who isnt going to contribute ****. The #28 isnt going to cut it. I dont think i would even do it for a lotto protected future 1st either.

And what about #28 AND a lotto protected future 1st?

That would be a great trade for us. We don't need the money, and we probably are gonna trade Chandler and his $13M per year next season.

[JojoSlimbiid]

Do you guys project Issac as a 3 in your lineup? I like Chriss a lot as your 4 man going into the future. Don't think he'll ever be a 5 though and I dunno about Bender long term.

[Kerrsed]

One interesting fact: George's agent is also Russells and Randles agent.

Woj said in one of his podcasts that George and his agent doesnt want this to turn into a Melo to NY deal where the Lakers are giving up everything for him, and you can bet that Russell and Randle are being positioned to stay.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Yeah i can't see L.A. giving up much more than randle for PG. They can simply stretch mosgov and deng next summer to create enough room for PG if they can't find a way to cut some salary.

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[thamadkant]

I dont mind Suns trading their 2018 pick as long as it has protection... a top 4 protected pick sounds fair.

[bwgood77]

I know Ainge and Mc'D have spoken......they are getting their guy and we are getting out guy. Ball is LA bound and we all know it!

Ainge probably wants Tatum. Makes so much sense.

What if they like the same guy? McD would be an idiot to call up Ainge and tell him who he wanted.

[Kerrsed]

Do you guys project Issac as a 3 in your lineup? I like Chriss a lot as your 4 man going into the future. Don't think he'll ever be a 5 though and I dunno about Bender long term.

Thats been the biggest question.

Many want to try, but i personally have the opinion that Issac is a 4 and playing him at SF is taking away from a majority of his defensive strengths.

I would almost try Chriss at the 3, and Issac at the 4. Chriss has already mentioned how he looked up to Rudy Gay as a model of a player who can post up, play on the perimeter and handle the ball well.