Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 1

JMac1 · Post #1721 » by **JMac1** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:12 am

Bledsoe and Tyson need to go. They are so indifferent on the court it's a shame. I swear Booker and JJ looked so good early on then Bledsoe had to put his hand in the cookie jar.... I'm done with him.

bigfoot · Post #1722 » by **bigfoot** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:17 am

Starting lineup

Booker
Jackson
Warren
Bender
Len

Bench

James
Daniels
DJJ
Peters/Dudley
Chriss

Post #1723 » by **ATTL** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:28 am

bigfoot wrote:Starting lineup

Booker
Jackson
Warren
Bender
Len

Bench

James
Daniels
DJJ
Peters/Dudley
Chriss

No Tyler?

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1724 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:41 am

We'll beat the Lakers and all will be forgotten.

The main play in getting another star from the draft takes 81 more games.

YouTube · Post #1725 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:08 am

Wilber85 · Post #1726 » by **Wilber85** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:39 am

Kerrsed wrote:

What is Drummond going to do? I don't see him helping us win games! Dude can't shoot free throws.

YouTube · Post #1727 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:46 am

Wilber85 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:

What is Drummond going to do? I don't see him helping us win games! Dude can't shoot free throws.

Yeah....because he averaged a whole 4 Free Throw Attempts last season makes the fact that he is a league top rebounder and defender null and void. If only he worked on his Free Throws to get those 4 extra points per game he was missing......

Oh wait, he did! Including pre-season games this year, Drummond has been shooting FT's better than BOTH Chandler and Len.

Along working with his passing skills as well.

Wilber85 · Post #1728 » by **Wilber85** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:02 am

Kerrsed wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:

What is Drummond going to do? I don't see him helping us win games! Dude can't shoot free throws.

Yeah....because he averaged a whole 4 Free Throw Attempts last season makes the fact that he is a league top rebounder and defender null and void. If only he worked on his Free Throws to get those 4 extra points per game he was missing......

Oh wait, he did! Including pre-season games this year, Drummond has been shooting FT's better than BOTH Chandler and Len.

Along working with his passing skills as well.

He is so good! Detroit Pistons are contenders!

Dude is not going to make us a playoff team even if you added him to our current team. Does he put us over the Warriors, Rockets, Thunder, Spurs, Wolves???? NOPE!

I would take

Bagley, Porter, Ayton or Bamba and their contracts over Drummond ($25 mill)

YouTube · Post #1729 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:14 am

Wilber85 wrote:He is so good! Detroit Pistons are contenders!

Dude is not going to make us a playoff team even if you added him to our current team. Does he put us over the Warriors, Rockets, Thunder, Spurs, Wolves???? NOPE!

I would take

Bagley, Porter, Ayton or Bamba and their contracts over Drummond ($25 mill)

Yes, because a single player makes a team a contender. :lol:

No, dont trade for Durant because he wont put us over the Warriors, Rockets, Thunder, Spurs, Wolves. Nah, dont worry about making any changes to our team that could better us because we cant beat other teams.

And yes, i know he wont make us a finals contender this year, we have way too many needs that need to be addressed (Namely a competent coach), but dont tell me that having a defensive presence in the paint that can actually grab rebounds not allowing teams to get second and third chance opportunities wouldnt help out at all. A big that we can throw the ball into and can score on a high percentage. Nah, none of that could help us at all!

But yes, continue to whine about he doesnt make us a playoff threat and a sentence later speak about how you want a top 3 pick. You cant have both, so which is it? A playoff contender or a top 3 pick? Im guessing your going to say the pick, so dont use Drummond not making us a contender as an excuse.

Post #1730 » by **ATTL** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:36 am

I never looked into it but I thought I remembered Drummond not being a good defensive player?

Anyways, #waitinforAyton #webadlyneedBagley

LukasBMW · Post #1731 » by **LukasBMW** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:10 am

Bledsoe for Drummond? OK!

NTB · Post #1732 » by **NTB** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:36 pm

When did Drummond become a good defender?

Post #1733 » by **Qwigglez** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:03 pm

I think if the Pelicans get off to a slow start Cousins may let the front office know he won't stay there after this season so they make look to trade him. By mid-December we could trade Len/Warren/Chriss/Chandler (or Knight) + 2018 Miami 1st for Boogie & Ajinca (salary matching purposes).
AD doesn't wanna play center so they get Len. Warren gives them a solid wing.

I'm not convinced Boogie would want to stay here but realistically he can't join a contending team anyway since no one really has cap space this summer. I'm not even sure if Boogie makes us all that much better as right now I'd prefer to just trade Bledsoe but at the same time I'm not feeling confident with our core outside of Booker/Jackson.

First thing we should do is fire Watson though. I think Len would play better, I think Bender would play better. I even think Ulis would play better.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1734 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:34 pm

Depends if Sarver caves in on the timeline.

RaisingArizona · Post #1735 » by **RaisingArizona** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:18 pm

This
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybunavgm

King4Day · Post #1736 » by **King4Day** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:41 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:This
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybunavgm

It says we'd gain 16 wins with that trade? I have to be missing something.
I'd do it for sure though.

YouTube · Post #1737 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:05 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:This
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybunavgm

It says we'd gain 16 wins with that trade? I have to be missing something.
I'd do it for sure though.

You never listen to or trust the Wins added/lost.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #1738 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:11 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:This
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybunavgm

It says we'd gain 16 wins with that trade? I have to be missing something.
I'd do it for sure though.

You never listen to or trust the Wins added/lost.

It's because the trade is based on differences in PER this season - which in this case in turn is based off of a sample size of 1 game.

Stanley Johnson shot 0-13 in DET game 1. DET won by 10.

YouTube · Post #1739 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:16 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
It says we'd gain 16 wins with that trade? I have to be missing something.
I'd do it for sure though.

You never listen to or trust the Wins added/lost.

It's because the trade is based on differences in PER this season - which in this case in turn is based off of a sample size of 1 game.

Stanley Johnson shot 0-13 in DET game 1. DET won by 10.

Exactly, and even though Stanleys PER is in the negative, Drummonds 28.2 PER offset that by about a BAJILLION.

AtheJ415 · Post #1740 » by **AtheJ415** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:06 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:

What is Drummond going to do? I don't see him helping us win games! Dude can't shoot free throws.

Yeah....because he averaged a whole 4 Free Throw Attempts last season makes the fact that he is a league top rebounder and defender null and void. If only he worked on his Free Throws to get those 4 extra points per game he was missing......

Oh wait, he did! Including pre-season games this year, Drummond has been shooting FT's better than BOTH Chandler and Len.

Along working with his passing skills as well.

He is far from a league top defender. He should be a reigning DPOY player. Instead, he's an overwhelming negative on that end. Trading for him would only end up a good situation if he became a + defender. Otherwise, you are paying max money for a rebounder, arguably the least most valuable skill in the game.