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Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 3

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Post#1721 » by Wilber85 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:48 pm

Steve Nashidis wrote:
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Steve Nashidis wrote:Hi Suns funs.

I am here to remind you, those bad trades.



We sell one of the best European players, for a croatian poor PF.
Bogdanovic ladies & gents. The missed opportunity to have an MVP, behind booker, for someone who is invisible.
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Lol you are pathetic.

Nice argument dude.. Thank you :)

I will remind you that suns prefer to keep Bender and trade Papagiannis & Bogdanovic rather than keep Papa & Bogda, and trade down from #4 (bender) to Chriss.
Its not the first time we loose players for nothing ( Bledsoe, Thomas, Dragic). No one want to stay in Phoenix anymore because we haven't a good administration.
Anyaway. If someone doesn't want to "see" , why do i have to give you light?? :lol:

7 years without playoffs....
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What did I miss? Bogdanovic isn't good. He is a role player.
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Post#1722 » by bwgood77 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:07 pm

Wilber85 wrote:What did I miss? Bogdanovic isn't good. He is a role player.


Maybe you missed this?

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Post#1723 » by NTB » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:09 pm

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Wilber85 wrote:What did I miss? Bogdanovic isn't good. He is a role player.


Maybe you missed this?



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Post#1724 » by Saberestar » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:15 pm

Wilber85 wrote:
Steve Nashidis wrote:
NTB wrote:
Lol you are pathetic.

Nice argument dude.. Thank you :)

I will remind you that suns prefer to keep Bender and trade Papagiannis & Bogdanovic rather than keep Papa & Bogda, and trade down from #4 (bender) to Chriss.
Its not the first time we loose players for nothing ( Bledsoe, Thomas, Dragic). No one want to stay in Phoenix anymore because we haven't a good administration.
Anyaway. If someone doesn't want to "see" , why do i have to give you light?? :lol:

7 years without playoffs....
(thank you mod, for the support)


What did I miss? Bogdanovic isn't good. He is a role player.

Yeah, he looks a good bench player but I am not crazy about his potential in the league. Another Belinelli IMO (but better creator, worse pure shooter).

Obviously he would be a better option than Troy Daniels here, but he is getting $9M per year as a backup SG.

Papagiannis...I do not like it AT ALL.

I am not happy with Bender's production, but he is improving.
I prefer him over Papagiannis, it is not even close.
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Post#1725 » by LukasBMW » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:34 pm

LOL. Wayyy to earyl to tell who won the PHX/SAC Trade.

You do know that Chriss and Bender are both 20...Twenty. As in...can't drink yet or even get into Scottsdale clubs. :lol:

Bogdan is 25 and has been playing in Europe for years now.
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Post#1726 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:48 pm

Bodgan finally hits a clutch shot in the NBA after being drafted 4 years ago. Stop the presses.
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Post#1727 » by Saberestar » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:43 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:Bodgan finally hits a clutch shot in the NBA after being drafted 4 years ago. Stop the presses.

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Post#1728 » by NTB » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:06 pm

Read on Twitter
carey wrote:It is 2-time, every time.
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Post#1729 » by bwgood77 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:23 pm

NTB wrote:
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Yeah, sounds a bit like Pastor Watson.
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Post#1730 » by NTB » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:30 pm

Read on Twitter
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Post#1731 » by MrVince » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:37 pm

Just when we are done collecting PGs, I hope we don't look to start collecting Cs.
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Post#1732 » by King4Day » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:38 pm

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I wonder what they'd want.

Thinking Monroe and Len as salary filler and a Miami first?

- Jordan is making 22mil for the next 2 years which is a lot for a guy who's not the same force inside anymore.
- If the Clips are still looking to compete until Griffin returns, Monroe can replace him while Len replaces Jordan.
- At worst, they have 2 expiring's and a pick to show for it.
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Post#1733 » by jcsunsfan » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:41 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
NTB wrote:
Read on Twitter


I wonder what they'd want.

Thinking Monroe and Len as salary filler and a Miami first?

- Jordan is making 22mil for the next 2 years which is a lot for a guy who's not the same force inside anymore.
- If the Clips are still looking to compete until Griffin returns, Monroe can replace him while Len replaces Jordan.
- At worst, they have 2 expiring's and a pick to show for it.


Do we want Jordan? How does he fit in here? I do not think Monroe can be combined with any other players. However. Monroe for Jordan straight up works.

So, technically you could do a second "uneven" trade to make the trade work. Say Marquese Chriss and Mike James for Patrick Beverly and maybe some second rounders or the Bucks pick.
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Post#1734 » by BobbieL » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:45 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
NTB wrote:
Read on Twitter


I wonder what they'd want.

Thinking Monroe and Len as salary filler and a Miami first?

- Jordan is making 22mil for the next 2 years which is a lot for a guy who's not the same force inside anymore.
- If the Clips are still looking to compete until Griffin returns, Monroe can replace him while Len replaces Jordan.
- At worst, they have 2 expiring's and a pick to show for it.


Do we want Jordan? How does he fit in here?


I heard Gambo - not sure I want Jordan but can they somehow take Knight for Austin Rivers

So Monroe, Len, Knight, Miami first for Rivers, Jordan

I would prefer even Chandler instead of Knight if need be - need to keep the cap good for 2020 and Jordan will want to get paid

I say pass

Need a point guard - Gambo mentioned George Hill again
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Post#1735 » by Saberestar » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:49 pm

I would love to get DeAndre Jordan now so we can sign him in the summer going over the cap. Monroe and the Miami pick can be enough?

With Jordan we would have the C position resolved. Alan Williams as a backup.
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Post#1736 » by Saberestar » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:56 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
NTB wrote:
Read on Twitter


I wonder what they'd want.

Thinking Monroe and Len as salary filler and a Miami first?

- Jordan is making 22mil for the next 2 years which is a lot for a guy who's not the same force inside anymore.
- If the Clips are still looking to compete until Griffin returns, Monroe can replace him while Len replaces Jordan.
- At worst, they have 2 expiring's and a pick to show for it.

Jordan is gonna be a FA this summer because he has a Player Option for next season.I guess that he will want to get another 4 year contract.
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Post#1737 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:02 pm

BobbieL wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
I wonder what they'd want.

Thinking Monroe and Len as salary filler and a Miami first?

- Jordan is making 22mil for the next 2 years which is a lot for a guy who's not the same force inside anymore.
- If the Clips are still looking to compete until Griffin returns, Monroe can replace him while Len replaces Jordan.
- At worst, they have 2 expiring's and a pick to show for it.


Do we want Jordan? How does he fit in here?


I heard Gambo - not sure I want Jordan but can they somehow take Knight for Austin Rivers

So Monroe, Len, Knight, Miami first for Rivers, Jordan

I would prefer even Chandler instead of Knight if need be - need to keep the cap good for 2020 and Jordan will want to get paid

I say pass

Need a point guard - Gambo mentioned George Hill again


I have long figured we were a possible suitor for Jordan. He is simply a category above the centers on our roster. I think we would have a solid shot at the playoffs. Plus, if Jordan wants a payday, we'd be one of the few teams well positioned to pay top dollar.

I think we should get our choice of Beverley/Teodosic/Williams in the deal. They will want Monroe, and this will give us an advantage, because very few teams have large expirings to exchange. They may be okay accepting Chandler, and Chandler may be okay with the move, given his LA roots. Including Knight is probably a non-starter.

My goal would be to minimize the draft pick cost - try to limit this to one first. We could send them all the seconds and not be harmed. Given their lack of young talent, I could see LAC valuing that positively. To accomplish this, I would consider dealing Ulis and DJJ (if they value either positively). I would try to keep Quese off the table. Obviously, none of Bender, Booker, TJ, JJ, PHX '18 or MIA '21 would be on the table.

My target deal would be something like this (http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7k6mkxs) plus MIL '18 (1st), MEM/CHA/MIA '18 (2d), MIL '18 (cond. 2d), PHX '18 (2d).
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 3 

Post#1738 » by thamadkant » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:03 pm

Deandre Jordan is only "handy" for the Suns if they decide to go for playoffs next season...

If they can get someone like Paul George as well.... then things will be looking up, look at that defensively.

I would then dangle Warren and assets for a ready now PF... or if Warren can transition to a "small" PF, maybe play the Melo / Antawn Jamison role, basically a night mare matchup PF because of his mobility and offensive range (inside arc)


C: Jordan (Inside defender)
F: Warren (Scorer)
F: George (Ball handler, Shooter/Scorer)
G: Booker (Ball handler, Shooter/Scorer)
G: Knight (becomes more of a spot shooter/scorer)
G/F: Jackson (Defender, Slasher, facilitator)
F: Bender (All-Rounder)
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Post#1739 » by dremill24 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:15 pm

Leave it to Suns fans to complain about how bad the team is and then scoff at any potentially available, legitimate talent.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 3 

Post#1740 » by BobbieL » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:22 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
Do we want Jordan? How does he fit in here?


I heard Gambo - not sure I want Jordan but can they somehow take Knight for Austin Rivers

So Monroe, Len, Knight, Miami first for Rivers, Jordan

I would prefer even Chandler instead of Knight if need be - need to keep the cap good for 2020 and Jordan will want to get paid

I say pass

Need a point guard - Gambo mentioned George Hill again


I have long figured we were a possible suitor for Jordan. He is simply a category above the centers on our roster. I think we would have a solid shot at the playoffs. Plus, if Jordan wants a payday, we'd be one of the few teams well positioned to pay top dollar.

I think we should get our choice of Beverley/Teodosic/Williams in the deal. They will want Monroe, and this will give us an advantage, because very few teams have large expirings to exchange. They may be okay accepting Chandler, and Chandler may be okay with the move, given his LA roots. Including Knight is probably a non-starter.

My goal would be to minimize the draft pick cost - try to limit this to one first. We could send them all the seconds and not be harmed. Given their lack of young talent, I could see LAC valuing that positively. To accomplish this, I would consider dealing Ulis and DJJ (if they value either positively). I would try to keep Quese off the table. Obviously, none of Bender, Booker, TJ, JJ, PHX '18 or MIA '21 would be on the table.

My target deal would be something like this (http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7k6mkxs) plus MIL '18 (1st), MEM/CHA/MIA '18 (2d), MIL '18 (cond. 2d), PHX '18 (2d).


I think I would do that deal but I think the Clippers would want a first rounder - that's per Gambo so I don't think second rounders would do it

But Monroe is expiring; Chandler gets them another year - so they can tank this year. They will want that pick I think .

I think I would be okay with Deandre Jordan. I know Knight is a non starter - but Monroe/Chandler - I could live with as Bledsoe and Chandler were going to cost that much next year anyway. Would Rivers be better than Williams. Keeps an expiring for the Clippers and gives the suns a PG through next year.

I would not be opposed to Jordan.

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