BobbieL wrote:RunDogGun wrote:BobbieL wrote:
No. The Suns don't need two more top ten picks . They barely need the 6th pick as it is and sur do not need two more r Hell, I wanted them to trade the pick if it wasn't the First Pick -- even Ja, I wanted to trade. The Suns need to start getting older more mature players.
The pick dropping from 2 to 6 was worth 3.1m of cap space. So, not insignificant. If the Suns can move Jackson or Warren and the the pick, that would put them at pretty good cap space for PG and PF.
We have tried that as well, so it depends on which older players we get. Moreover, we can still add those players with our exceptions.
You make valid points about free agency but hopefully Jones et. al understand the type of players, and AGE, that is needed when the word veteran is used. I am thinking that player between 24 and 28 - maybe the second contract as they really mature as players or have at least reached a level of play they can sustain a few years. Like Tyler Johnson, sure he can get better by being more experienced but I don't see him as Ariza or Chandler.
And you are correct - its easier said than done thats for sure. And you are also correct that the Suns right now have 10m of cap space (if Spalding and Jimmer are released) and have the 8m exception to use. SO they do not need to move salary TODAY or even draft night. Do have to see what the market is for PG and PF.
I don't believe the dollars you suggested are correct. In the CBA FAQ it says ...
26. How do exceptions count against the cap? Does being under the cap always mean that a team has room to sign free agents? Do teams ever lose their exceptions?
If a team is below the cap, then its Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level (either the Taxpayer or Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, whichever applies to the team) and/or trade exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap1. This is to prevent a loophole, in a manner similar to free agent amounts (see question number 37). A team can't act like it's under the cap and sign free agents using cap room, and then use its Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and/or trade exceptions. Consequently, the exceptions are added to the team salary (putting the team over the cap) if the team is under the cap and adding the exceptions puts them over the cap. If a team is already over the cap, then the exceptions are not added to their team salary. There would be no point in doing so, since there is no cap room for signing free agents.
So technically we are over the cap with our exceptions (non-tax payer and bi-annual) and we can sign other teams free agents using those $9.1M and $3.5M exceptions. If we renounce our exceptions and waive our free agents except Oubre and Holmes we have $9.2M under the cap to sign free agents but lose both exceptions (edit: yes we would actually have less money to work with
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The other alternative is to stretch Johnson and waive the others (Daniels, Bender, etc) and renounce our exceptions. This would get us $22M in cap space.
We actually may be better off not waiving players like Bender, Daniels, and Holmes trying to get under the cap. Just use our exceptions so that if need be we can offer our unrestricted free agent bigger contracts than other teams. However, with only $9M to sign a starter level player it really looks like we are going to need to make a trade to get the PG we need this summer or will have to roll with Tyler Johnson.
