The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 1

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1721 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Fri May 9, 2025 6:32 pm

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MrMiyagi · Post #1722 » by **MrMiyagi** » Fri May 9, 2025 7:44 pm

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Where them Ayton Haytors?

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1723 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Fri May 9, 2025 8:38 pm

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Consolidation trade sounds good for KD!

Saberestar · Post #1724 » by **Saberestar** » Fri May 9, 2025 8:52 pm

Pat Riley on the Butler trade:

"We were pretty much locked in with one team [Phoenix]. It didn't happen there. We took the deal we felt was best for us now and in the future. We have young players. We have medium age players in their prime. Our draft picks are in
better order than what they were."

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1725 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Fri May 9, 2025 8:54 pm

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sunsbum · Post #1726 » by **sunsbum** » Fri May 9, 2025 9:14 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
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Where them Ayton Haytors?

KD is one of the best to ever pickup a basketball in the existence of humanity. Ayton can’t pull out of an Icy drive way.

TeamTragic · Post #1727 » by **TeamTragic** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:13 pm

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TeamTragic · Post #1728 » by **TeamTragic** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:14 pm

sunsbum wrote:
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Where them Ayton Haytors?
KD is one of the best to ever pickup a basketball in the existence of humanity. Ayton can’t pull out of an Icy drive way.

Miyagi really compared KD to Ayton :lol:

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1729 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:32 pm

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Saberestar · Post #1730 » by **Saberestar** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:36 pm

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Here is what he said. The Heat will make an offer for KD, that’s for sure.

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TeamTragic · Post #1731 » by **TeamTragic** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:40 pm

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Here is what he said. The Heat will make an offer for KD, that’s for sure.

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Great. We will take Ware/Jovic since Riley is building around Bam/Herro.

SunsRback4Good · Post #1732 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:42 pm

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Where them Ayton Haytors?

Deandre Ayton hater checking in

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1733 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:43 pm

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As Suns fans get ready to hate watch Monday's NBA Draft Lottery,

@TheSteinLine

asks the most important question of them all:
Who had the most miserable season, @PHLY_Sixers, @DLLS_Mavs, @CHGO_Bulls, or what we just experienced in the desert?

Followed by a 4 minute video breakdown on that are currently teams in the worst overall situation. Video portion pulled from this link originally:

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Ghost of Kleine · Post #1734 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:47 pm

TeamTragic wrote:
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Here is what he said. The Heat will make an offer for KD, that’s for sure.

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Great. We will take Ware/Jovic since Riley is building around Bam/Herro.

If they seriously want KD, then they better prepare to pony up on picks too. Because two expirings and 1 mediocre prospect just isn't getting close. :nod:

TeamTragic · Post #1735 » by **TeamTragic** » Fri May 9, 2025 10:59 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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Saberestar wrote:Here is what he said. The Heat will make an offer for KD, that’s for sure.

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Great. We will take Ware/Jovic since Riley is building around Bam/Herro.

If they seriously want KD, then they better prepare to pony up on picks too. Because two expirings and 1 mediocre prospect just isn't getting close.

Ware/Jovic plus picks. Maybe Haywood?

Many teams will be interested in KD.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1736 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Fri May 9, 2025 11:06 pm

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Ghost of Kleine · Post #1737 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Fri May 9, 2025 11:09 pm

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BobbieL · Post #1738 » by **BobbieL** » Fri May 9, 2025 11:18 pm

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I read that and responded to it as it doesn't make sense

1) Voita is saying for Beal to accept a $45m pay cut down to $66m
2) This would allow Beal to be on the open market and sign for like $75m/3

I doubt Beal is taking that big of a pay cut and I doubt that a team will sign him for $75m/3. Hell, I have a hard time seeing Beal getting 45/3m. And really he would need the contract to be $45/2 because he only has two years left on his contract

All these scenarios that are discussed on twitter or PHNX_Suns that I don't see are realistic or right long term for the team
---Beal takes a big pay cut to be bought out
--- attach draft picks to just trade - no matter the cost, just trade

Post #1739 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri May 9, 2025 11:43 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:

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Here is what he said. The Heat will make an offer for KD, that’s for sure.

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I assume they would but I doubt it'll be a great offer. I just don't see them going all in for KD but they won't rebuild

Post #1740 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri May 9, 2025 11:48 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:

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I read that and responded to it as it doesn't make sense

1) Voita is saying for Beal to accept a $45m pay cut down to $66m
2) This would allow Beal to be on the open market and sign for like $75m/3

I doubt Beal is taking that big of a pay cut and I doubt that a team will sign him for $75m/3. Hell, I have a hard time seeing Beal getting 45/3m. And really he would need the contract to be $45/2 because he only has two years left on his contract

All these scenarios that are discussed on twitter or PHNX_Suns that I don't see are realistic or right long term for the team
---Beal takes a big pay cut to be bought out
--- attach draft picks to just trade - no matter the cost, just trade

Yeah doesn't make sense. It's more or less getting him to not pick up his $57m player option. I also doubt he makes over $20m a year. I think he could get full MLE ($12-13m) but I just think teams see him as a bit risky considering his health and form this past year.