2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation

AtheJ415 · Post #1741 » by **AtheJ415** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 1:08 am

KD misses a wide open layup that he could've dunked but chose not to, slaps his hands together and doesn't even move 5 feet before the Hornets beat everybdy down the foor and get a fast break bucket. That is this entire team. Lazy with no leadership because our stars shrug off all responsibility. Bunch of babies

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1742 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 1:16 am

garrick wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:

Read on Twitter

Orlando Robinson is actually a very talented mobile lanky young center with a lot of skill versatility and potential. He'd honestly be a great pickup as a 3rd string center and honestly could allow us to move Ighodaro to the 4 in some situations off the bench because of his ability to hit the 3, make midrange shots and still block shots too. Or he could play at the 4 next to Ighodaro interchangeably?

He moves really well for a 7 footer, has some smooth offensive moves and can dribble/drive with a decent faceup game and some encouraging ISO creation ability already, he has a solid motor, he's an underrated passer out of the post, he is long, physical and energetic. And he's nearly free after being waived.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/orlando-robinson/
( Nikola Vucevic comp)

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2022/6/22/23178504/2022-nba-draft-orlando-robinson-breakdown
( More physical Kelly Olynyk comp).

We should waive D.Lee since he hasn't been good at all and we have too many guards, we need a couple big bodies at the end of the bench not a bunch of guards.

Definitely agree!

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1743 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:21 am

So Josh Bartlestein worked for the Pistons for 8 years and is the brother of Beal's agent.

Miami - Hardaway, Harris, Suns 2031 1st
Detroit - Beal
Suns - Butler

Calvin Klein · Post #1744 » by **Calvin Klein** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:34 am

Butler is not an idiot. He knows this team is a mess. If he was mad about Simmons/KAT/Wiggins being soft...what do you think he will think about this team? The only reason he wants the Suns is that he knows the idiotic owner with deep pockets will give him the contract he wants.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1745 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:39 am

If the Butler era goes ahead its likely we wont have a lottery pick until 2034 onwards

2031 traded (this season)
2032 frozen, moved to 30 (Butler 1st year)
2033 frozen, moved to 30 (Butler 2nd year)

Frank Lee · Post #1746 » by **Frank Lee** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:42 am

The implosion is officially on

Makes little difference what happens with Beal. Screwed one way or the other

BobbieL · Post #1747 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:44 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:So Josh Bartlestein worked for the Pistons for 8 years and is the brother of Beal's agent.

Miami - Hardaway, Harris, Suns 2031 1st
Detroit - Beal
Suns - Butler

Butler wont help

Blow it up

That’s Durant Booker Tyus Jones Royce

You name it

Calvin Klein · Post #1748 » by **Calvin Klein** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:44 am

35 year old Jimmy Butler will save this franchise. Sure. Whatever. **** this.

dremill24 · Post #1749 » by **dremill24** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:45 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:If the Butler era goes ahead its likely we wont have a lottery pick until 2034 onwards

2031 traded (this season)
2032 frozen, moved to 30 (Butler 1st year)
2033 frozen, moved to 30 (Butler 2nd year)

I dont disagree with the general sentiment but theres no way they stay over the 2nd apron long enough for the '33 pick to be penalized lol. Probly not even the '32

bullsaficianado · Post #1750 » by **bullsaficianado** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:45 am

Beal is a really good fit for the Pistons. That trade worked in ESPN trade machine. It also gave Detroit +4 wins.

BobbieL · Post #1751 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:57 am

bullsaficianado wrote:Beal is a really good fit for the Pistons. That trade worked in ESPN trade machine. It also gave Detroit +4 wins.

Still don’t want butler

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1752 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:59 am

We may all agree its a dead end but Ishbia is willing to nuke a decade of lottery picks which makes rebuilding impossible.

The 2 people in the NBA who value the draft the least are Jones and Ishbia.

Even Ryan McDonough got Booker.

bullsaficianado · Post #1753 » by **bullsaficianado** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:05 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:We may all agree its a dead end but Ishbia is willing to nuke a decade of lottery picks which makes rebuilding impossible.

The 2 people in the NBA who value the draft the least are Jones and Ishbia.

Even Ryan McDonough got Booker.

I think they figure if we blow it up in a few years they can get some picks back.

BobbieL · Post #1754 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:10 am

bullsaficianado wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:We may all agree its a dead end but Ishbia is willing to nuke a decade of lottery picks which makes rebuilding impossible.

The 2 people in the NBA who value the draft the least are Jones and Ishbia.

Even Ryan McDonough got Booker.

I think they figure if we blow it up in a few years they can get some picks back.

Sooner you blow it up…. Sooner team is better

This team is only getting worse

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1755 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:14 am

Who is worth anything in 2 years?

Booker at 31 for 2 picks may be it.

BobbieL · Post #1756 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:15 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Who is worth anything in 2 years?

Booker at 31 for 2 picks may be it.

Right do it now when they have value

bullsaficianado · Post #1757 » by **bullsaficianado** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:19 am

OK I see your point yeah Ishbia and Jones seem to think draft picks grows on trees.

sunskerr · Post #1758 » by **sunskerr** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:20 am

Booker for Amen + our picks this off-season or at the trade deadline. Next year will be too late if it isn't already.

In fact I think it's probably best to just do it now.

BobbieL · Post #1759 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:28 am

sunskerr wrote:Booker for Amen + our picks this off-season or at the trade deadline. Next year will be too late if it isn't already.

In fact I think it's probably best to just do it now.

Do it now or by the deadline

Calvin Klein · Post #1760 » by **Calvin Klein** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:38 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:We may all agree its a dead end but Ishbia is willing to nuke a decade of lottery picks which makes rebuilding impossible.

The 2 people in the NBA who value the draft the least are Jones and Ishbia.

Even Ryan McDonough got Booker.

They might wanna take a look at the top of the standings and the last few NBA champions, which mostly built their teams on draft picks and young players.