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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1761 » by TheXgasm » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:57 pm

What's their lineup now?

Teague/?/PG/Thad/Mahinmi ??
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1762 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:58 pm

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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1763 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:59 pm

Thank goodness the suns didn't trade 13 for thad. Seemed like a very sunsy thing to do.
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1764 » by Qwigglez » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:06 pm

TheXgasm wrote:What's their lineup now?

Teague/?/PG/Thad/Mahinmi ??


Teague/Monte/PG/Thad/Turner

Very solid starting 5. Capable of getting to the Eastern Finals with that. Honestly thought they were gonna push hard for Horford and that would be very plausible but now with Thad, I think they'll just find some rotation players for their bench, possibly a Jared Dudley type signing.
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1765 » by saintEscaton » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:12 pm

letsgosuns wrote:Some scouts have Dunn as the next star point guard of the NBA and a real two way player. If that is true and he could be that good, Nerlens Noel is not nearly enough for him. Noel has played two years now and not shown any kind of star potential. How much better will he get? Is he ever going to be as good or better than a player like Ibaka. If Dunn is the next Westbrook or Wall with great defense, would you trade him for a guy like Noel? There is no way imo that Noel is worth that kind of potential player. Role playing, shot blocking centers can be had later in the draft. You give up Dunn and you might lose a franchise player.


Ibaka is a completely different kinda player. Noel can be Larry Sanders with his head on straight. At the least a skinnier Biyombo with more active hands. I think Dunn projects to be somewhere between Bledsoe and Wall. Unlike Bledsoe he is actually a menance in transition pushing the break with plus size , tighter handle and better court vision/ needle threading abilities. He can improvize on broken plays and can do more than just drive n kickout and has the length to guard multiple positions
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1766 » by TeamTragic » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:12 pm

NBA Fiend wrote:Some cat on Boston board Paul Gaston. I don't come up with it I just simply pass it along.

I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but a buddy tells me the 76ers might trade Nerlens Noel and Carl Landry to the Suns for Eric Bledsoe. Bledsoe's coming off an injury and apparently the Suns like Noel's defense even though he's heading into the end of his rookie deal. Tyson Chandler didn't work out there, obviously, and they are trying to dump him. Suns are hoping Dunn will be there for them at #4, but there's a growing sentiment that's not happening. Boston is still holding out hope that a bigger fish will become available when they are on the clock (all the names we've heard about), but it's growing more likely they are going to just draft and keep Kris Dunn. If the Suns/Sixers deal goes down and Boston grabs Dunn, my buddy claims that it might end up as a 3-team deal with Boston sending the Suns Marcus Smart (expendable with Dunn) and James Young for Alex Len (who my buddy claims Boston likes) and #13. Boston would then try to trade up using #13 + #16 + #23 to move into the 7-10 range with hopes of that one of their targets will slip and become available (Bender/Hield/Chriss/Brown). But take this with a grain of salt. It's just what my buddy tells me. I honestly don't get the Alex Len thing at all. Isn't he heading into the end of his rookie contract as well? Makes no sense. I honestly don't believe this, but I'm sending it along, because I know this forum loves eating up garbage rumors.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ja4rsud


How does that help this franchise? Noel is good but Smart is just average and I haven't really seen anything from Landry. Are we doing it just to swap lineups? If this trade goes down then we admit that Len was the wrong pick :lol:
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1767 » by Qwigglez » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:40 pm

Suns draft Dunn at No 4. Trade Bledsoe for No 6 and draft Chriss there. Trade Chandler to the Hornets for their 22nd pick. Draft Deyonta Davis at 13. Draft and stash Furkan Kormkaz at 22.
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1768 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:50 pm

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NBA Fiend wrote:Some cat on Boston board Paul Gaston. I don't come up with it I just simply pass it along.

I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but a buddy tells me the 76ers might trade Nerlens Noel and Carl Landry to the Suns for Eric Bledsoe. Bledsoe's coming off an injury and apparently the Suns like Noel's defense even though he's heading into the end of his rookie deal. Tyson Chandler didn't work out there, obviously, and they are trying to dump him. Suns are hoping Dunn will be there for them at #4, but there's a growing sentiment that's not happening. Boston is still holding out hope that a bigger fish will become available when they are on the clock (all the names we've heard about), but it's growing more likely they are going to just draft and keep Kris Dunn. If the Suns/Sixers deal goes down and Boston grabs Dunn, my buddy claims that it might end up as a 3-team deal with Boston sending the Suns Marcus Smart (expendable with Dunn) and James Young for Alex Len (who my buddy claims Boston likes) and #13. Boston would then try to trade up using #13 + #16 + #23 to move into the 7-10 range with hopes of that one of their targets will slip and become available (Bender/Hield/Chriss/Brown). But take this with a grain of salt. It's just what my buddy tells me. I honestly don't get the Alex Len thing at all. Isn't he heading into the end of his rookie contract as well? Makes no sense. I honestly don't believe this, but I'm sending it along, because I know this forum loves eating up garbage rumors.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ja4rsud


How does that help this franchise? Noel is good but Smart is just average and I haven't really seen anything from Landry. Are we doing it just to swap lineups? If this trade goes down then we admit that Len was the wrong pick :lol:

Smart is a very good defender but he cant shoot a lick (.348 fg% & .253 3pt%) :o ...Noel for Len is an upgrade. I Like that part.
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1769 » by saintEscaton » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:53 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Suns draft Dunn at No 4. Trade Bledsoe for No 6 and draft Chriss there. Trade Chandler to the Hornets for their 22nd pick. Draft Deyonta Davis at 13. Draft and stash Furkan Kormkaz at 22.



Pels already have Jrue, Bled isn't a big step p and he has his own injury history they are setting their sights on Buddy to pair with him. Chandler is a pure salary dump, you might get a second rounder form at best and Charlotte wants to clear cap space to re-sign their FAs. Korkmaz is most likely going late teens to Nuggets/Celts
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1770 » by Qwigglez » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:06 pm

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Qwigglez wrote:Suns draft Dunn at No 4. Trade Bledsoe for No 6 and draft Chriss there. Trade Chandler to the Hornets for their 22nd pick. Draft Deyonta Davis at 13. Draft and stash Furkan Kormkaz at 22.



Pels already have Jrue, Bled isn't a big step p and he has his own injury history they are setting their sights on Buddy to pair with him. Chandler is a pure salary dump, you might get a second rounder form at best and Charlotte wants to clear cap space to re-sign their FAs. Korkmaz is most likely going late teens to Nuggets/Celts


Don't agree that Charlotte wants to re-sign their own free agents. They'll most likely want to keep Batum around but I doubt they want to keep AJ there.
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1771 » by thamadkant » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:17 pm

Gorilla Warfare wrote:Even though LeBron has already said he's going to stay in Cleveland, over 20 teams can offer him more money than Cleveland can. That is crazy.



Lebron's career earning and future commercial earning allows him to not really care about 5 or so million dollar less a year by staying in Ohio and further establishing his legacy in that state and community.
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1772 » by Gorilla Warfare » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:20 pm

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Gorilla Warfare wrote:Even though LeBron has already said he's going to stay in Cleveland, over 20 teams can offer him more money than Cleveland can. That is crazy.



Lebron's career earning and future commercial earning allows him to not really care about 5 or so million dollar less a year by staying in Ohio and further establishing his legacy in that state and community.


I know he's not going anywhere, just crazy knowing that 20 teams could offer a max contract to arguably the best player on the planet. That new salary cap is cray cray.
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Post#1773 » by NTB » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:29 pm

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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1774 » by Gorilla Warfare » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:32 pm

I'd offer #34 for Ibaka.
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1775 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:47 pm

Gorilla Warfare wrote:I'd offer #34 for Ibaka.

Heck why not throw in a new Spalding ball as well. :wink:
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1776 » by Walt_Uoob » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:55 pm

I bet that Ibaka rumor was started by some team that wants to sign Durant and hopes he gets pissed off that the Thunder want to dismantle the team.
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Post#1777 » by MathiasPW » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:12 pm

Walt_Uoob wrote:I bet that Ibaka rumor was started by some team that wants to sign Durant and hopes he gets pissed off that the Thunder want to dismantle the team.

Spot on.

Hopefully same is true for the Bledsoe rumors, which would mean at least there is demand for him.
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1778 » by sunsbum » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:45 pm

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NBA Fiend wrote:Some cat on Boston board Paul Gaston. I don't come up with it I just simply pass it along.

I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but a buddy tells me the 76ers might trade Nerlens Noel and Carl Landry to the Suns for Eric Bledsoe. Bledsoe's coming off an injury and apparently the Suns like Noel's defense even though he's heading into the end of his rookie deal. Tyson Chandler didn't work out there, obviously, and they are trying to dump him. Suns are hoping Dunn will be there for them at #4, but there's a growing sentiment that's not happening. Boston is still holding out hope that a bigger fish will become available when they are on the clock (all the names we've heard about), but it's growing more likely they are going to just draft and keep Kris Dunn. If the Suns/Sixers deal goes down and Boston grabs Dunn, my buddy claims that it might end up as a 3-team deal with Boston sending the Suns Marcus Smart (expendable with Dunn) and James Young for Alex Len (who my buddy claims Boston likes) and #13. Boston would then try to trade up using #13 + #16 + #23 to move into the 7-10 range with hopes of that one of their targets will slip and become available (Bender/Hield/Chriss/Brown). But take this with a grain of salt. It's just what my buddy tells me. I honestly don't get the Alex Len thing at all. Isn't he heading into the end of his rookie contract as well? Makes no sense. I honestly don't believe this, but I'm sending it along, because I know this forum loves eating up garbage rumors.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ja4rsud


How does that help this franchise? Noel is good but Smart is just average and I haven't really seen anything from Landry. Are we doing it just to swap lineups? If this trade goes down then we admit that Len was the wrong pick :lol:

Smart is a very good defender but he cant shoot a lick (.348 fg% & .253 3pt%) :o ...Noel for Len is an upgrade. I Like that part.


I believe 0 of that. I think and hope Len is for the most part untouchable. There is too many moving parts and "ifs" in this guys draft fantasy.
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1779 » by saintEscaton » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:44 pm

I really don't wanna be on the hook for Len's payday, I feel like the FO will give in to save face because he is their pet project. If he hasn't supplanted Chandler this year and proven to be a serviceable starter, he is just a rotation player at best. Really lowering the bar
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Re: The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2 

Post#1780 » by SideSwipe » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:10 pm

Walt_Uoob wrote:I bet that Ibaka rumor was started by some team that wants to sign Durant and hopes he gets pissed off that the Thunder want to dismantle the team.


More like this is due to Ibaka wanting to get moved due to his role being greatly diminished throughout the year. He was quoted as being frustrated throughout the year. His desire to move I am sure would depend on where it is he might be able to go.

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