Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion

[bwgood77]

I was thinking about outside the box bledsoe ideas and Utah comes to mind. I know they love hill but i think him and bledsoe could absolutely play together and be successful. They could either bring bledsoe or hood off the bench and still give them starter minutes and they could slide hayward down to the 4 against teams like the Warriors and play 4 out around gobert.

They are a team that could make some noise in the playoffs and they have some interesting pieces they could trade. I dont know the exact trade that both sides would like but there are interesting combinations. I think they might look to move favors since hes probably best at center and maybe not a long term fit with gobert. Id consider a deal built around favors. Or a package around lyles, exum, and maybe taking burkes bad contract to make the money work.



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I think this could be interesting, but I'm guessing Utah won't do anything until they see if Hayward re-signs. At that point they may deal someone like Favors. If they feel like their window is now and that Exum is too young to help now or won't develop at all, then maybe Bledsoe for Favors or add any pieces that may make value off. I imagine something like that wouldn't happen unless we added a PG in the draft and McD got a new 4 years or something though.

Personally I don't think they will trade Bledsoe or look into it.

If Sarver just gives him a one year extension, us as fans are REALLY screwed though, because he will be forced to try and turn it around quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what happens and in that case he keeps all players that he feels give us a better chance NOW.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I was thinking about outside the box bledsoe ideas and Utah comes to mind. I know they love hill but i think him and bledsoe could absolutely play together and be successful. They could either bring bledsoe or hood off the bench and still give them starter minutes and they could slide hayward down to the 4 against teams like the Warriors and play 4 out around gobert.

They are a team that could make some noise in the playoffs and they have some interesting pieces they could trade. I dont know the exact trade that both sides would like but there are interesting combinations. I think they might look to move favors since hes probably best at center and maybe not a long term fit with gobert. Id consider a deal built around favors. Or a package around lyles, exum, and maybe taking burkes bad contract to make the money work.



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I think this could be interesting, but I'm guessing Utah won't do anything until they see if Hayward re-signs. At that point they may deal someone like Favors. If they feel like their window is now and that Exum is too young to help now or won't develop at all, then maybe Bledsoe for Favors or add any pieces that may make value off. I imagine something like that wouldn't happen unless we added a PG in the draft and McD got a new 4 years or something though.

Personally I don't think they will trade Bledsoe or look into it.

If Sarver just gives him a one year extension, us as fans are REALLY screwed though, because he will be forced to try and turn it around quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what happens and in that case he keeps all players that he feels give us a better chance NOW.

You could be right about both teams philosophy and this isnt super likely to happen but my counter would be this.

For the suns as much as i hate sarver and would throw a party if he sold the team i do somewhat think hes onboard for a real rebuild. You would have to be a fool to draft two teenagers top 10 and start a 20 yr old and expect quick results. I could see him letting mcd take a long term approach and if the return is right cash in on bledsoe.

For utah the best way to keep Hayward is to win. Even beyond Hayward this is a team that has been on a multi year rebuild thats starting to pay off they should be in win now mode. Hill is a really good solid player but bledsoe brings another element they just dont have in that backcourt. He also gives them lineup flexibility to play a few different ways that could really help depending on matchups in the playoffs.

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[thamadkant]

Hill is too perfecy for Jazz and Exum learning from him is a bonus.

[thamadkant]

Tucker plus Suns 2017 2nd rounder for Clippers 2017 first rounder.

Knight, Len for Smart, 2017 Celtics pick

2017 Celtics pick to 76ers for Noel



Suns

C: Chandler / Noel
PF: Chriss / Bender
SF: Warren / Dudley
SG: Booker / Barbosa
PG: Bledsoe / Smart

[Frank Lee]

Its DMO time!

[Saberestar]

Tucker plus Suns 2017 2nd rounder for Clippers 2017 first rounder.

Knight, Len for Smart, 2017 Celtics pick

2017 Celtics pick to 76ers for Noel



Suns

C: Chandler / Noel
PF: Chriss / Bender
SF: Warren / Dudley
SG: Booker / Barbosa
PG: Bledsoe / Smart

I would make those trades.

I think Smart is way better than Knight because he is a very good defender. Just with that he is more useful. He can defend three positions and he is strong like a bull. Offensively he is not a good shooter yet, but at least he is not a knightmare.

[Saberestar]

Noel is available FOR SURE and he is a better fit for our current stage than Chandler. I would talk with Chandler and trade him for a late pick to a contender/playoff team. He has some value yet, but he is not part of our future.

Noel can be a beast defensively, if he is healthy (and he can be healthier with our medical staff) he can be a real game changer.

If we trade for him NOW we have enough time to see if we want to give him a high salary next season.

We have the trade pieces (Knight, Chandler, Tucker, picks) to adquire him.

[LacosteM]

Its DMO time!

Why? PF position is kinda crowded atm.

[Frank Lee]

Its DMO time!

Why? PF position is kinda crowded atm.

? Crowded with pudgy SFs.... Tucker and Dudley. Crowded with kids.....Chriss is so lost he mucks it up for the other four...... And Bender is just ignored for some reason


This team lacks real talent. Lacks BBIQ. Lacks inside scoring. Lacks passing. healthy DMo is a much needed talent infusion. Furthermore, his court savvy and footwork would be a fine blueprint for Bender to follow. Chriss? I'm not sure he could spell blueprint.

[dremill24]

There's no such thing as a healthy DMo.

[Frank Lee]

Clearly, going into this year we had a HUGE question mark at PF.... and we still do. We have no consistent scoring from our bigs.

It needs to be addressed as it is a weakness, just as the pseudo PGs we trot out on the court.

I would describe this roster as unfinished business, and now, it is the time adjustments can and should be made. Adding talent is imperative. It would be hard to imagine McDuh doing nothing..... but then again, it's hard to imagine what he will be able to do.

[Zelaznyrules]

Clearly, going into this year we had a HUGE question mark at PF.... and we still do. We have no consistent scoring from our bigs.

It needs to be addressed as it is a weakness, just as the pseudo PGs we trot out on the court.

I would describe this roster as unfinished business, and now, it is the time adjustments can and should be made. Adding talent is imperative. It would be hard to imagine McDuh doing nothing..... but then again, it's hard to imagine what he will be able to do.

We drafted extremely raw 18 and 19 year olds and we did it because of their long term potential, not their ability to positively impact the game today. We could have drafted any number of NBA ready players, each of whom would have likely outperformed our rookies by a considerable margin. If we expected anything other than what we're seeing from those two players, the fault is on us.

Maybe it was a stupid thing, drafting those two, but it's done. Giving up on them now seems shortsighted. We suck and we will probably suck for a few years unless we overreact and start anew. In which case we will probably suck for a lot more than a few more years. IMO we don't need to bring in a solution at power forward, we need to bite the bullet and focus primarily on developing those extremely raw players.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Clearly, going into this year we had a HUGE question mark at PF.... and we still do. We have no consistent scoring from our bigs.

It needs to be addressed as it is a weakness, just as the pseudo PGs we trot out on the court.

I would describe this roster as unfinished business, and now, it is the time adjustments can and should be made. Adding talent is imperative. It would be hard to imagine McDuh doing nothing..... but then again, it's hard to imagine what he will be able to do.

Frank, im curious in general are you hoping the suns try to make a move to win a couple extra games this year? I get that feeling when i read your posts. Personally i think thats counter productive to ultimately adding more talent especially with how this draft class looks. playing guys like chriss and bender should help them learn from their mistakes and make them better players in the long run. To me thats accomplishing more than a couple meaningless games this year by playing a vet at the 4.

With all that said i dmo especially if they would use him at center and trade chandler. But unfortunately i think his back problems are very serious.

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[gaspar]

There's no such thing as a healthy DMo.

Yeah, he failed 2 physicals this year and he wasn't that great, even when he was healthy. Just compare DMo's career numbers to our greener than grass rookie HERE.

[Frank Lee]

Week.... it's not about winning a couple more games. It's about adding talent. Nobody is giving up on Chriss and Bender. Neither is ready, Chriss doesn't have the mental side and Bender needs some physical growth. IMO, Chriss would be better off in the DLeague playing big mins every game. He doesn't know how to play basketball, isn't that obvious? The DLeague is for development, that's called patience. yet you preachers want to see him play nightly when clearly, he isn't ready.

This team is a sham, last off season was a sham. Dudley and Barbs ? Really? Nothing wrong with drafting two teens, but at some point you have to actually build a team. There is no core, there is no system... just a bunch of stat padding going on during losing effort blow outs.

This is not developing anything, but bad habits. And it's being justified/accepted in order to draft yet another likely teen-potential star who in 3 yrs may be good. At some point, you have to acquire real, proven talent.

[AtheJ415]

Its DMO time!

Why? PF position is kinda crowded atm.

? Crowded with pudgy SFs.... Tucker and Dudley. Crowded with kids.....Chriss is so lost he mucks it up for the other four...... And Bender is just ignored for some reason


This team lacks real talent. Lacks BBIQ. Lacks inside scoring. Lacks passing. healthy DMo is a much needed talent infusion. Furthermore, his court savvy and footwork would be a fine blueprint for Bender to follow. Chriss? I'm not sure he could spell blueprint.

Jesus Christ man. I like DMo as much as nearly anybody, but he has worse numbers than Chriss, who you hate, in 3 of his 4 NBA seasons. He is 25 and coming off his worst season ever, shooting horribly from the field across the board, with poor defense and limited ancillary skills. He is only elite in the post, and he hasn't been that in 2 years, when he broke out, but again that is just 1 of 4 years.

If you are going to give up on Chriss in less than half a season at age 20, I am flabergasted as to how you would have so much faith in DMo. From a talent perspective, Chriss is drastically further along at age 20 than DMo was and that isn't even debatable.

This team needs to do what it is doing--play the youngsters and lose games. Add more talent and move forward.

[AtheJ415]

There's no such thing as a healthy DMo.

Yeah, he failed 2 physicals this year and he wasn't that great, even when he was healthy. Just compare DMo's career numbers to our greener than grass rookie HERE.

Exactly. DMo has failed to average even 6 PPG in 3 of his 4 NBA seasons. He averages like 2 rebounds a game and is at best a mediocre rim protector and overall questionable defender. Let's be objective here. His highlight reels of post moves doesn't mean he is great, just like Gerald Green's dunk youtube highlights don't make him an All-Star.

[AtheJ415]

Week.... it's not about winning a couple more games. It's about adding talent. Nobody is giving up on Chriss and Bender. Neither is ready, Chriss doesn't have the mental side and Bender needs some physical growth. IMO, Chriss would be better off in the DLeague playing big mins every game. He doesn't know how to play basketball, isn't that obvious? The DLeague is for development, that's called patience. yet you preachers want to see him play nightly when clearly, he isn't ready.

This team is a sham, last off season was a sham. Dudley and Barbs ? Really? Nothing wrong with drafting two teens, but at some point you have to actually build a team. There is no core, there is no system... just a bunch of stat padding going on during losing effort blow outs.

This is not developing anything, but bad habits. And it's being justified/accepted in order to draft yet another likely teen-potential star who in 3 yrs may be good. At some point, you have to acquire real, proven talent.

Who did you expect us to get last offseason? You are the ultimate "nudge into the playoffs with a maxed out cap" fan. So our 19 year old isn't ready yet. Who cares? We are building for 5 years from now, not today. If you can't see or understand that then you will hate every game and the offseason won't make sense.

[Sunsss]

Paul Coro quit his job or something? He hasn't written anything about the last two games and removed the info about him on Twitter.

[gaspar]

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