2022-23 Season Discussion and Review - the Blockbuster trade and playoff downfall

[WeekapaugGroove]

The funniest and actually kind of realistic Ayton trade destination would be Brooklyn. They were a below .500 team after the trade that got swept, I doubt they just want to run it back. They could view Ayton as a upside gamble and they had good results with Bridges.

Claxon plus some combo DFS, Dinwiddie, Harris, or O'Neal could work. Other than Claxon I doubt any are in their long term plans. Claxon is a nice yet limited player so I doubt he's a real building block kind of guy.



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[BobbieL]

The funniest and actually kind of realistic Ayton trade destination would be Brooklyn. They were a below .500 team after the trade that got swept, I doubt they just want to run it back. They could view Ayton as a upside gamble and they had good results with Bridges.

Claxon plus some combo DFS, Dinwiddie, Harris, or O'Neal could work. Other than Claxon I doubt any are in their long term plans. Claxon is a nice yet limited player so I doubt he's a real building block kind of guy.



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I am sure the market for Ayton will be pretty decent. A team will think that if he is the top dog, not behind Booker and KD - but a true 1/2 option - a team might want to "try" as the talent is there.

I still think Detroit or Charlotte

[bwgood77]

The funniest and actually kind of realistic Ayton trade destination would be Brooklyn. They were a below .500 team after the trade that got swept, I doubt they just want to run it back. They could view Ayton as a upside gamble and they had good results with Bridges.

Claxon plus some combo DFS, Dinwiddie, Harris, or O'Neal could work. Other than Claxon I doubt any are in their long term plans. Claxon is a nice yet limited player so I doubt he's a real building block kind of guy.



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I figured they really liked Claxton and wouldn't want to trade him. He's on a great deal, though it is expiring next year so he will probably get upwards of $20 million per year. But him and any of those guys would be a great trade. Better than most I've come up with. I'm sure of all places he could be traded he'd love to get traded there.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The funniest and actually kind of realistic Ayton trade destination would be Brooklyn. They were a below .500 team after the trade that got swept, I doubt they just want to run it back. They could view Ayton as a upside gamble and they had good results with Bridges.

Claxon plus some combo DFS, Dinwiddie, Harris, or O'Neal could work. Other than Claxon I doubt any are in their long term plans. Claxon is a nice yet limited player so I doubt he's a real building block kind of guy.



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I am sure the market for Ayton will be pretty decent. A team will think that if he is the top dog, not behind Booker and KD - but a true 1/2 option - a team might want to "try" as the talent is there.

I still think Detroit or Charlotte

The funniest and actually kind of realistic Ayton trade destination would be Brooklyn. They were a below .500 team after the trade that got swept, I doubt they just want to run it back. They could view Ayton as a upside gamble and they had good results with Bridges.

Claxon plus some combo DFS, Dinwiddie, Harris, or O'Neal could work. Other than Claxon I doubt any are in their long term plans. Claxon is a nice yet limited player so I doubt he's a real building block kind of guy.



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I figured they really liked Claxton and wouldn't want to trade him. He's on a great deal, though it is expiring next year so he will probably get upwards of $20 million per year. But him and any of those guys would be a great trade. Better than most I've come up with. I'm sure of all places he could be traded he'd love to get traded there.

I think DAs market will be OK. It's a 3 year gamble and as we've seen around here he's the type of talent that people can talk themselves into. Plus lots of teams have guys they would like to move so there's always deck shuffling deals for damn near anyone.

I think Brooklyn like Claxon but he's the same age as DA and not really a guy most would perceive as a true building block kind of player. Brooklyn is in a spot where they should take some chances on high upside guys.

I think OKC is another possibility. They really need size and Chet shouldn't be counted on to be a full time C early in his career.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

The funniest and actually kind of realistic Ayton trade destination would be Brooklyn. They were a below .500 team after the trade that got swept, I doubt they just want to run it back. They could view Ayton as a upside gamble and they had good results with Bridges.

Claxon plus some combo DFS, Dinwiddie, Harris, or O'Neal could work. Other than Claxon I doubt any are in their long term plans. Claxon is a nice yet limited player so I doubt he's a real building block kind of guy.



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I am sure the market for Ayton will be pretty decent. A team will think that if he is the top dog, not behind Booker and KD - but a true 1/2 option - a team might want to "try" as the talent is there.

I still think Detroit or Charlotte

The funniest and actually kind of realistic Ayton trade destination would be Brooklyn. They were a below .500 team after the trade that got swept, I doubt they just want to run it back. They could view Ayton as a upside gamble and they had good results with Bridges.

Claxon plus some combo DFS, Dinwiddie, Harris, or O'Neal could work. Other than Claxon I doubt any are in their long term plans. Claxon is a nice yet limited player so I doubt he's a real building block kind of guy.



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I figured they really liked Claxton and wouldn't want to trade him. He's on a great deal, though it is expiring next year so he will probably get upwards of $20 million per year. But him and any of those guys would be a great trade. Better than most I've come up with. I'm sure of all places he could be traded he'd love to get traded there.

I think DAs market will be OK. It's a 3 year gamble and as we've seen around here he's the type of talent that people can talk themselves into. Plus lots of teams have guys they would like to move so there's always deck shuffling deals for damn near anyone.

I think Brooklyn like Claxon but he's the same age as DA and not really a guy most would perceive as a true building block kind of player. Brooklyn is in a spot where they should take some chances on high upside guys.

I think OKC is another possibility. They really need size and Chet shouldn't be counted on to be a full time C early in his career.

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[bwgood77]

The funniest and actually kind of realistic Ayton trade destination would be Brooklyn. They were a below .500 team after the trade that got swept, I doubt they just want to run it back. They could view Ayton as a upside gamble and they had good results with Bridges.

Claxon plus some combo DFS, Dinwiddie, Harris, or O'Neal could work. Other than Claxon I doubt any are in their long term plans. Claxon is a nice yet limited player so I doubt he's a real building block kind of guy.



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I am sure the market for Ayton will be pretty decent. A team will think that if he is the top dog, not behind Booker and KD - but a true 1/2 option - a team might want to "try" as the talent is there.

I still think Detroit or Charlotte

The funniest and actually kind of realistic Ayton trade destination would be Brooklyn. They were a below .500 team after the trade that got swept, I doubt they just want to run it back. They could view Ayton as a upside gamble and they had good results with Bridges.

Claxon plus some combo DFS, Dinwiddie, Harris, or O'Neal could work. Other than Claxon I doubt any are in their long term plans. Claxon is a nice yet limited player so I doubt he's a real building block kind of guy.



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I figured they really liked Claxton and wouldn't want to trade him. He's on a great deal, though it is expiring next year so he will probably get upwards of $20 million per year. But him and any of those guys would be a great trade. Better than most I've come up with. I'm sure of all places he could be traded he'd love to get traded there.

I think DAs market will be OK. It's a 3 year gamble and as we've seen around here he's the type of talent that people can talk themselves into. Plus lots of teams have guys they would like to move so there's always deck shuffling deals for damn near anyone.

I think Brooklyn like Claxon but he's the same age as DA and not really a guy most would perceive as a true building block kind of player. Brooklyn is in a spot where they should take some chances on high upside guys.

I think OKC is another possibility. They really need size and Chet shouldn't be counted on to be a full time C early in his career.

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I meant to also mention that Brooklyn had no interest in him in a potential trade. But, they do have a ton of pieces for a trade now, especially at the wing.

I don't really see OKC at all. I think Charlotte, possibly Detroit, unless one of those teams gets Victor.

I do think Mark Daigneault would be the perfect coach for him though.

[bwgood77]

I am sure the market for Ayton will be pretty decent. A team will think that if he is the top dog, not behind Booker and KD - but a true 1/2 option - a team might want to "try" as the talent is there.

I still think Detroit or Charlotte

I figured they really liked Claxton and wouldn't want to trade him. He's on a great deal, though it is expiring next year so he will probably get upwards of $20 million per year. But him and any of those guys would be a great trade. Better than most I've come up with. I'm sure of all places he could be traded he'd love to get traded there.

I think DAs market will be OK. It's a 3 year gamble and as we've seen around here he's the type of talent that people can talk themselves into. Plus lots of teams have guys they would like to move so there's always deck shuffling deals for damn near anyone.

I think Brooklyn like Claxon but he's the same age as DA and not really a guy most would perceive as a true building block kind of player. Brooklyn is in a spot where they should take some chances on high upside guys.

I think OKC is another possibility. They really need size and Chet shouldn't be counted on to be a full time C early in his career.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

I am sure the market for Ayton will be pretty decent. A team will think that if he is the top dog, not behind Booker and KD - but a true 1/2 option - a team might want to "try" as the talent is there.

I still think Detroit or Charlotte

I figured they really liked Claxton and wouldn't want to trade him. He's on a great deal, though it is expiring next year so he will probably get upwards of $20 million per year. But him and any of those guys would be a great trade. Better than most I've come up with. I'm sure of all places he could be traded he'd love to get traded there.

I think DAs market will be OK. It's a 3 year gamble and as we've seen around here he's the type of talent that people can talk themselves into. Plus lots of teams have guys they would like to move so there's always deck shuffling deals for damn near anyone.

I think Brooklyn like Claxon but he's the same age as DA and not really a guy most would perceive as a true building block kind of player. Brooklyn is in a spot where they should take some chances on high upside guys.

I think OKC is another possibility. They really need size and Chet shouldn't be counted on to be a full time C early in his career.

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I meant to also mention that Brooklyn had no interest in him in a potential trade. But, they do have a ton of pieces for a trade now, especially at the wing.

I don't really see OKC at all. I think Charlotte, possibly Detroit, unless one of those teams gets Victor.

I do think Mark Daigneault would be the perfect coach for him though.

Why is Presti too smart to talk himself into big IF?

I'm just throwing out some possibilities, I do think there are some GMs who wouldn't take him for free. But hey it only takes one to trick themselves into thinking they can bring out the best in him.

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[bwgood77]

I think DAs market will be OK. It's a 3 year gamble and as we've seen around here he's the type of talent that people can talk themselves into. Plus lots of teams have guys they would like to move so there's always deck shuffling deals for damn near anyone.

I think Brooklyn like Claxon but he's the same age as DA and not really a guy most would perceive as a true building block kind of player. Brooklyn is in a spot where they should take some chances on high upside guys.

I think OKC is another possibility. They really need size and Chet shouldn't be counted on to be a full time C early in his career.

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I meant to also mention that Brooklyn had no interest in him in a potential trade. But, they do have a ton of pieces for a trade now, especially at the wing.

I don't really see OKC at all. I think Charlotte, possibly Detroit, unless one of those teams gets Victor.

I do think Mark Daigneault would be the perfect coach for him though.

Why is Presti too smart to talk himself into big IF?

I'm just throwing out some possibilities, I do think there are some GMs who wouldn't take him for free. But hey it only takes one to trick themselves into thinking they can bring out the best in him.

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I think Presti likes to build through the draft. The only time he traded for a star was when he traded Dipo/Sabonis for George. Unless you count when he traded for Paul, but he demanded picks to give up Westbrook for him and his contract. Same for Horford. I don't think he likes to take on big contracts unless he is getting assets to take them. I certainly don't see him trading young prospects or good picks for Ayton.

If he did trade I think he might do something like Dort and Kenrich Williams or something.

[Frank Lee]

Havent seen one Ayton trade I’d make if i was the opposition. Better trade him tho, before he pulls a Crowder. He may no longer be responding to tough love

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[darealjuice]

Thought he'd be gone last offseason but I really don't want to see Ayton back next year. He's not the only problem we've got, I just don't enjoy watching him play.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I meant to also mention that Brooklyn had no interest in him in a potential trade. But, they do have a ton of pieces for a trade now, especially at the wing.

I don't really see OKC at all. I think Charlotte, possibly Detroit, unless one of those teams gets Victor.

I do think Mark Daigneault would be the perfect coach for him though.

Why is Presti too smart to talk himself into big IF?

I'm just throwing out some possibilities, I do think there are some GMs who wouldn't take him for free. But hey it only takes one to trick themselves into thinking they can bring out the best in him.

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I think Presti likes to build through the draft. The only time he traded for a star was when he traded Dipo/Sabonis for George. Unless you count when he traded for Paul, but he demanded picks to give up Westbrook for him and his contract. Same for Horford. I don't think he likes to take on big contracts unless he is getting assets to take them. I certainly don't see him trading young prospects or good picks for Ayton.

If he did trade I think he might do something like Dort and Kenrich Williams or something.

I doubt it would be any big package of picks from OKC. Probably Williams and some other filler, maybe a late first or two that the suns flip for a vet.

Regardless of what Presti likes he's going to have to start consolidating players and picks soon. They are going to hit a roster and development time crunch. Especially since they are actually trying to win going forward plus have to develop a raw but important piece in Chet. Nice little bonus is Aytons contact ends before a Chet extension would begin and by that point chet may have filled out enough to play the 5 full time (something I don't really think he should do now)

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Havent seen one Ayton trade I’d make if i was the opposition. Better trade him tho, before he pulls a Crowder. He may no longer be responding to tough love

See Frank the problem is you and I have watched Ayton play for 5 years, of course we wouldn't trade for him. But as they say it only takes one idiot. The key is to find a GM who hasn't watched these playoffs

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[kennydorglas]

After that Gobert trade, never say never.
It only takes one.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I think DAs market will be OK. It's a 3 year gamble and as we've seen around here he's the type of talent that people can talk themselves into. Plus lots of teams have guys they would like to move so there's always deck shuffling deals for damn near anyone.

I think Brooklyn like Claxon but he's the same age as DA and not really a guy most would perceive as a true building block kind of player. Brooklyn is in a spot where they should take some chances on high upside guys.

I think OKC is another possibility. They really need size and Chet shouldn't be counted on to be a full time C early in his career.

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Bleacher report been following your posts here man???

That Bleacher report says the dream offseason target for the Suns is Alec Burks.

Already mentioned Burks as an inclusionary piece in an Ayton trade to Detroit!
Bleacher report lurker is now confirmed!.......

[handsome salary]

Thought he'd be gone last offseason but I really don't want to see Ayton back next year. He's not the only problem we've got, I just don't enjoy watching him play.

Agree.Watching Ayton appear paralyzed, bored or lost has no appeal.
The most excitement and passion I see from him is cheering on teammates from the bench. Sad.

[enigmatics]

Thought he'd be gone last offseason but I really don't want to see Ayton back next year. He's not the only problem we've got, I just don't enjoy watching him play.

Agree.Watching Ayton appear paralyzed, bored or lost has no appeal.
The most excitement and passion I see from him is cheering on teammates from the bench. Sad.

The "Valley Oop" and that whole ride he was on seems like eons ago. So disappointing.

[handsome salary]

Thought he'd be gone last offseason but I really don't want to see Ayton back next year. He's not the only problem we've got, I just don't enjoy watching him play.

Agree.Watching Ayton appear paralyzed, bored or lost has no appeal.
The most excitement and passion I see from him is cheering on teammates from the bench. Sad.

The "Valley Oop" and that whole ride he was on seems like eons ago. So disappointing.

He still looks lost and clueless after it happens. "Did that just work, huh...huh?"

[spwashton]

Deandre trade idea - What about for a package around Lu Dort and picks? Might be a great fit long term for us.