The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

[thamadkant]

We can find a taker for Green. Dallas in particular needs help in the back court. Detroit needs a legit #2. BRK, Philly and maybe even ORL need scoring from their guards.

Chatting with some Rockets fan on Twitter - he thinks the trade, post July 1 for an official date is

Brooks
Green
2 of the Suns FRP backs


If thats the deal - the Suns should be trying to flip both Green and Brooks

I'd do that. I'd actually probably prefer the 2027 & 2029 picks, because I think Book will be gone, and we will be near the bottom, if not at the bottom.

Yup. I would do that trade.

Then flip Brooks to a contender for a future lottery protected first or late first. Nuggets would love him, they need an enforcer slash pest wing defender.


With Green, Suns can then flip him to Nets for Claxton and 2 first rounders. I'm sure Nets want young assets these days.

[DirtyDez]

I don't think the Rockets return will be as good as the Wolves even with a third or fourth team.

Tragic - what is your Twolves trade -- roughly

You and Saber already mentioned:

Gobert ($35M)
DiVincenzo ($11M)
Dillingham ($6.5M)
#17
#31
2028 Swap
2029 2nd

I'm not sold on the Nets being involved. They want to move up in the draft.

I doubt Minnesota would do that but that’s as good as we could do while taking back Gobert. Problem is all their picks are locked up like ours.

[Slim Charless]

Chatting with some Rockets fan on Twitter - he thinks the trade, post July 1 for an official date is

Brooks
Green
2 of the Suns FRP backs


If thats the deal - the Suns should be trying to flip both Green and Brooks

I'd do that. I'd actually probably prefer the 2027 & 2029 picks, because I think Book will be gone, and we will be near the bottom, if not at the bottom.

Yup. I would do that trade.

Then flip Brooks to a contender for a future lottery protected first or late first. Nuggets would love him, they need an enforcer slash pest wing defender.


With Green, Suns can then flip him to Nets for Claxton and 2 first rounders. I'm sure Nets want young assets these days.

I dont think we'll get 2 FRPs for Green on top of Claxton. More like they give us back our protected swaps as they still have some of those left. They didn't give all of our picks to Houston, just the most important ones I think

[TeamTragic]

Chatting with some Rockets fan on Twitter - he thinks the trade, post July 1 for an official date is

Brooks
Green
2 of the Suns FRP backs


If thats the deal - the Suns should be trying to flip both Green and Brooks

I'd do that. I'd actually probably prefer the 2027 & 2029 picks, because I think Book will be gone, and we will be near the bottom, if not at the bottom.

Yup. I would do that trade.

Then flip Brooks to a contender for a future lottery protected first or late first. Nuggets would love him, they need an enforcer slash pest wing defender.

With Green, Suns can then flip him to Nets for Claxton and 2 first rounders. I'm sure Nets want young assets these days.

A. Why would we help the Nuggets? This makes zero sense
B: Nets are not going to give you two FRPs and Claxton is overrated

[BobbieL]

I don't think the Rockets return will be as good as the Wolves even with a third or fourth team.

Tragic - what is your Twolves trade -- roughly

You and Saber already mentioned:

Gobert ($35M)
DiVincenzo ($11M)
Dillingham ($6.5M)
#17
#31
2028 Swap
2029 2nd

I'm not sold on the Nets being involved. They want to move up in the draft.

If Ishbia is in win mode now -- this trade probably does that since the defense would be much better. Dillingham is raw at the PG position but has some upside as a top 10 pick

I have a feeling the Twolves will be motivated.

[sunsbum]

right now I like the sochan/vassel/filler/14 offer the best as we could definitely flip vassel for a starting center or some kind of 3 team with claxton involved.

I like Claxton but the original deal....

I do not want vassel but he is a young prospect that could be valuable for another team. I really like sochan though, I think he’s really underrated and could bring some toughness to the suns.

[sunsbum]

Chatting with some Rockets fan on Twitter - he thinks the trade, post July 1 for an official date is

Brooks
Green
2 of the Suns FRP backs


If thats the deal - the Suns should be trying to flip both Green and Brooks

I'd do that. I'd actually probably prefer the 2027 & 2029 picks, because I think Book will be gone, and we will be near the bottom, if not at the bottom.

Yup. I would do that trade.

Then flip Brooks to a contender for a future lottery protected first or late first. Nuggets would love him, they need an enforcer slash pest wing defender.


With Green, Suns can then flip him to Nets for Claxton and 2 first rounders. I'm sure Nets want young assets these days.

nets have cam Thomas

[Saberestar]

Gambo is saying that San Antonio is out of the race unless they put Castle or #2 on the table because the other teams have better offers.

[sunsbum]

I like Claxton but the original deal....

If we can send Vassell for Clayton and get Sochan and the #14, that's not bad. I think we can get the Spurs to add some other stuff too. Maybe a few of their seconds.

Back to the other point about OKC, you're probably right and they come back and win this. If they don't its an absolute disaster.

Indy would be the biggest underdog in NBA history to win the title. That's a time frame that goes back to like the 1950s....

Changes will have to be made. Durant would fit in there as a great #2 option. That

Today, the Spurs seem to be on the outside and not an option anymore

according to who? The rockets fan on Twitter you’ve been jaw jacking with?

[Jesus_H_Macy]

Gambo is saying that San Antonio is out of the race unless they put Castle or #2 on the table because the other teams have better offers.

That's very promising. Maybe we aren't going to get shafted on this trade like I've been expecting...

[dremill24]

If we can send Vassell for Clayton and get Sochan and the #14, that's not bad. I think we can get the Spurs to add some other stuff too. Maybe a few of their seconds.

Back to the other point about OKC, you're probably right and they come back and win this. If they don't its an absolute disaster.

Indy would be the biggest underdog in NBA history to win the title. That's a time frame that goes back to like the 1950s....

Changes will have to be made. Durant would fit in there as a great #2 option. That

Today, the Spurs seem to be on the outside and not an option anymore

according to who? The rockets fan on Twitter you’ve been jaw jacking with?

Not being an option anymore might be putting it too strongly but Shams came out today saying their primary focus is currently with Houston, Minnesota, and Miami. Perhaps thats wherw the comment came from.

[Saberestar]

Do you guys prefer Rudy Gobert or Nick Claxton?

Gobert has a two year contract + a player option. $108M for the next 3 years.(33,34,35 years old).

Claxton has 3 years under contract. $25M, $23M, $21M. $69M total. (26,27,28 years old).

Gobert is NOW the best player, plain and simple. But he is much older and his contract is more expensive so I have my doubts.

[Slim Charless]

Gambo is saying that San Antonio is out of the race unless they put Castle or #2 on the table because the other teams have better offers.

That's very promising. Maybe we aren't going to get shafted on this trade like I've been expecting...

**** yeah!

If that's true, then maybe, just maybe Ish isn't quite as stupid as he seems...or has acted...or all his interviews seem to indicate.

Hold that line and with an OKC loss, we can get some real stuff back for Durant. I dont think the Spurs blink on Castle or #2 unless the Thunder are in the KD derby.

[sunsbum]

Today, the Spurs seem to be on the outside and not an option anymore

according to who? The rockets fan on Twitter you’ve been jaw jacking with?

Not being an option anymore might be putting it too strongly but Shams came out today saying their primary focus is currently with Houston, Minnesota, and Miami. Perhaps thats wherw the comment came from.

I think the suns are trying to posture as they should. You can’t let the spurs have their cake by keeping the #2 and castle unless they give us the vassel/sochan/filler/14 and a future 1st. The Minnesota trade is exclusively catering to the draft heads outside of Gobert who doesn’t excite me at all being that he’s 32 and trending down.

Either Texas trade is what I’m hoping for. Not the idiotic Dillon brooks/green package either. The convo starts with Jabari smith in Houston.

[Slim Charless]

Do you guys prefer Rudy Gobert or Nick Claxton?

Gobert has a two year contract + a player option. $108M for the next 3 years.(33,34,35 years old).

Claxton has 3 years under contract. $25M, $23M, $21M. $69M total. (26,27,28 years old).

Gobert is NOW the best player, plain and simple. But he is much older and his contract is more expensive so I have my doubts.

With Gobert, that's likely all we're getting besides some crappy minny picks. With Claxton, we're probably also getting Jabari and a cpl of our picks from Houston back cause we're sending them Green.

Becasue of that, I'll take Claxton cause he's younger and cheaper and we'll be getting other stuff.

[sunsbum]

Do you guys prefer Rudy Gobert or Nick Claxton?

Gobert has a two year contract + a player option. $108M for the next 3 years.(33,34,35 years old).

Claxton has 3 years under contract. $25M, $23M, $21M. $69M total. (26,27,28 years old).

Gobert is NOW the best player, plain and simple. But he is much older and his contract is more expensive so I have my doubts.

Clayton is cheaper/younger and won’t get played off the floor.

[Saberestar]

Do you guys prefer Rudy Gobert or Nick Claxton?

Gobert has a two year contract + a player option. $108M for the next 3 years.(33,34,35 years old).

Claxton has 3 years under contract. $25M, $23M, $21M. $69M total. (26,27,28 years old).

Gobert is NOW the best player, plain and simple. But he is much older and his contract is more expensive so I have my doubts.

With Gobert, that's likely all we're getting besides some crappy minny picks. With Claxton, we're probably also getting Jabari and a cpl of our picks from Houston back cause we're sending them Green.

Becasue of that, I'll take Claxton cause he's younger and cheaper and we'll be getting other stuff.

Well, we don’t know yet who we could get or not next to one of these Cs...I just wanted to know who do you prefer for our team knowing their contracts, age and production.

Edit: OK, I see now that you prefer Claxton.

[Slim Charless]

according to who? The rockets fan on Twitter you’ve been jaw jacking with?

Not being an option anymore might be putting it too strongly but Shams came out today saying their primary focus is currently with Houston, Minnesota, and Miami. Perhaps thats wherw the comment came from.

I think the suns are trying to posture as they should. You can’t let the spurs have their cake by keeping the #2 and castle unless they give us the vassel/sochan/filler/14 and a future 1st. The Minnesota trade is exclusively catering to the draft heads outside of Gobert who doesn’t excite me at all being that he’s 32 and trending down.

Either Texas trade is what I’m hoping for. Not the idiotic Dillon brooks/green package either. The convo starts with Jabari smith in Houston.

I can be talked into Hartenstein, Caruso and their GOOD future picks.

IE: 26 Philly, or 26 Utah along with a prospect or 2.

Harty and Caruso are dirty work players who will do the little things and in Caruso's case-a phenomenal defender.

[dremill24]

according to who? The rockets fan on Twitter you’ve been jaw jacking with?

Not being an option anymore might be putting it too strongly but Shams came out today saying their primary focus is currently with Houston, Minnesota, and Miami. Perhaps thats wherw the comment came from.

I think the suns are trying to posture as they should. You can’t let the spurs have their cake by keeping the #2 and castle unless they give us the vassel/sochan/filler/14 and a future 1st. The Minnesota trade is exclusively catering to the draft heads outside of Gobert who doesn’t excite me at all being that he’s 32 and trending down.

Either Texas trade is what I’m hoping for. Not the idiotic Dillon brooks/green package either. The convo starts with Jabari smith in Houston.

Yeah, I was going to put this into my previous response too. Could just be trying to drum up leverage with San Antonio, VERY possible.

[sunsbum]

Chatting with some Rockets fan on Twitter - he thinks the trade, post July 1 for an official date is

Brooks
Green
2 of the Suns FRP backs


If thats the deal - the Suns should be trying to flip both Green and Brooks

I'd do that. I'd actually probably prefer the 2027 & 2029 picks, because I think Book will be gone, and we will be near the bottom, if not at the bottom.

Yup. I would do that trade.

Then flip Brooks to a contender for a future lottery protected first or late first. Nuggets would love him, they need an enforcer slash pest wing defender.


With Green, Suns can then flip him to Nets for Claxton and 2 first rounders. I'm sure Nets want young assets these days.

this team would win 20 games with Booker and Clayton as your best 2 players