Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons

Jarlaxle0204 · Post #181 » by **Jarlaxle0204** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:55 pm

Eric Bledsoe, "I want to give a shout out to Doo Doo".

We gave this guy $70 million.

JDLAW · Post #182 » by **JDLAW** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:57 pm

SunsFanSSOL wrote:Poor G Green, he's saying all the right things and played his heart out last year but he's probably out the way out the door

Seriously doubt that.

SunsFanSSOL · Post #183 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:59 pm

JDLAW wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:Poor G Green, he's saying all the right things and played his heart out last year but he's probably out the way out the door

Seriously doubt that.

I wish we could keep him, but he's going to be a FA this off-season and he's at a deep spot in the rotation. I like him and his sense of humor: [tweet]https://twitter.com/Suns/status/516662130045489152[/tweet]

JDLAW · Post #184 » by **JDLAW** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:04 pm

SunsFanSSOL wrote:
JDLAW wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:Poor G Green, he's saying all the right things and played his heart out last year but he's probably out the way out the door

Seriously doubt that.

I wish we could keep him, but he's going to be a FA this off-season and he's at a deep spot in the rotation. I like him and his sense of humor: [tweet]https://twitter.com/Suns/status/516662130045489152[/tweet]

He is not as deep in the rotation as you think. I would not be too surprised to see him earn the starter's role at the #3.

Nando88 · Post #185 » by **Nando88** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:05 pm

I love Gerald's attitude.

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JTrain · Post #186 » by **JTrain** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:08 pm

Gerald Green is amazing.

Nando88 · Post #187 » by **Nando88** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:14 pm

I've never really heard Miles talk but his voice is way higher than I expected lol

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JTrain · Post #188 » by **JTrain** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:17 pm

Minutes for this season:

Goran Dragic 28
Eric Bledsoe 28
Markieff Morris 28
P.J. Tucker 25
Miles Plumlee 24
Gerald Green 22
Thomas 21
Marcus Morris 16
Tolliver 12
Warren 12
Alex Len 11
Archie Goodwin 7
Zoran 4
Shavlik Randolph 2

240 total

MathiasPW · Post #189 » by **MathiasPW** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:28 pm

It's about time that the Suns put some mics towards the audience, so we can actually hear the questions as well.

NaturalBuns · Post #190 » by **NaturalBuns** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:38 pm

JDLAW wrote:
NaturalBuns wrote:Good to have the Morris bros longterm.

I'm kind of shocked how much Marcus got though.
We all know Tucker is going to see play time.
With the addition to all these pgs green would see some SF as well.
And I really thought warren would maybe pass marcus in rotation.

Talking about a guy making 5mil just getting DNPs lol I think it's possible

What are you talking about?

Marcus played 82 games last year and averaged about 10ppg in 22 min. He shot well and he is improving. He has signed a 4 year contract for less than the mid-level exception. This is an absolute bargain.

Is he better then gerald green though?

BurningHeart · Post #191 » by **BurningHeart** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:40 pm

Very happy about the numbers involved for the Morris Brothers. Hopefully they continue to grow and improve. Let's go!

spanishninja · Post #192 » by **spanishninja** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:46 pm

Nando88 wrote:I love Gerald's attitude.

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If he keeps up this season, I would like to see us help him get an $8mill/yr deal somewhere. We won't have room for him but would like to see him finally make it on a team that needs him.

Sunsdeuce · Post #193 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:47 pm

SunsFanSSOL wrote:Bledsoe: "I love the city."

TAKE THAT BLEDSOE HATERS

Seriously, what else is he going to say? It's called PR, no matter how how much he dislikes the city of phx, he would never say it.

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JTrain · Post #194 » by **JTrain** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:08 pm

Does anyone have a running count of where we will be cap-wise in 2015-16, assuming we can lock in Dragic at $14M per?

DirtyDez · Post #195 » by **DirtyDez** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:22 pm

JTrain wrote:Does anyone have a running count of where we will be cap-wise in 2015-16, assuming we can lock in Dragic at $14M per?

HH and Shamsports doesn't have them yet but maybe someone on here knows. Assuming Dragic gets re-signed the Suns will have 13 players under control for the next two season (that includes Tolliver's TO). Add possible 2-3 first round picks next summer. Something gotta give between now and then.

JTrain · Post #196 » by **JTrain** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:28 pm

I could be off, but I think, if Goran's cap hold is 7.5 * 1.5 = 11.25M, that would put our total at about 65.7. The cap is projected to be 66.5.

Now, can someone tell me how we can maneuver that situation to sign Green and Dragic?

SunZel · Post #197 » by **SunZel** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:34 pm

Damn i think Markieff is our longest tenured Sun if you don't count Dragic. Crazy...

bigfoot · Post #198 » by **bigfoot** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:43 pm

JTrain wrote:Does anyone have a running count of where we will be cap-wise in 2015-16, assuming we can lock in Dragic at $14M per?

Assume the following are waived or traded
Green
Randolph
Tolliver

The 15/16 team without Goran

Bledsoe $13.5M
Markieff ~$8M
Thomas $6.91M
Tucker $5.5M
Marcus ~$5M
Len $3.65M
Warren $2.04M
Ennis $1.66M
Zoran $1.5M
Plumlee $1.17M
Goodwin $1.11M

Total is $50M without Dragic ... plus two rookies (Suns and Lakers) might be another $3-7M. Suns can exceed cap to sign Goran between $14M and $16M and still be below luxury tax.

Calvin Klein · Post #199 » by **Calvin Klein** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:44 pm

PJ wearing vintage Suns jersey

http://instagram.com/p/tiwmpogXwP/

bigfoot · Post #200 » by **bigfoot** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:45 pm

JTrain wrote:I could be off, but I think, if Goran's cap hold is 7.5 * 1.5 = 11.25M, that would put our total at about 65.7. The cap is projected to be 66.5.

Now, can someone tell me how we can maneuver that situation to sign Green and Dragic?

There is no problem. We can sign both of them and exceed the salary cap. Question is Sarver willing to exceed the luxury tax?